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thePunGun
598 Posts
On March 16 2016 14:07 kwizach wrote: Washington Post now lists all 3041 precincts as having reported their results. Hillary and Trump seem to be the winners, by razor-thin margins. ....They should just armwrestle....HIllary wins vs Bernie....Trump wins vs Cruz...and in the final showdown Trump vs Hillary, she will break his arm and become president. xD | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On March 16 2016 14:20 LegalLord wrote: I thought Missouri was WTA. Is it WTM or P, or is it actually WTA? Missouri awards delegates on a district level with (I think) a delegate bonus for the overall plurality. | ||
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kwizach
3658 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46611 Posts
On March 16 2016 14:42 kwizach wrote: The Sanders campaign now apparently hopes to win the nomination thanks to superdelegates. "The Sanders forces have a big hill to climb: 467 of the superdelegates are currently pledged to Clinton, compared to 26 for Sanders, according to an Associated Press count." Yeahhhhhhh :/ | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24437 Posts
On March 16 2016 14:22 TheTenthDoc wrote: Missouri awards delegates on a district level with (I think) a delegate bonus for the overall plurality. Pretty sure it's like 12 delegates on the R side goes to the winner then it breaks down at the lower levels. As for the super delegate stuff I'd be curious to see how many switched in 08, how many went with their state, and how many Hillary kept/got at the convention before Obama was nominated. Id prefer he not need any super delegates but I still think Bernie is a much better opponent in the general so I think it's the best decision to beat Trump or anyone else R's run. Hopefully Trump gets a chance to preview some more of his general election material before too long so more folks see what I'm talking about. | ||
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JW_DTLA
242 Posts
On March 16 2016 14:18 ticklishmusic wrote: The Donald will get most of the delegates from the Republican contest, but Hillary and Bernie will likely evenly split. Maybe they'll give the 1 to Hillary, so 36-35? Evenly split? ![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdpUhWHWwAEVeuh.jpg:large) Hillary is well on her way to a clean and solid majority. 5-5 tonight. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24437 Posts
On March 16 2016 14:55 JW_DTLA wrote: Evenly split? + Show Spoiler + Hillary is well on her way to a clean and solid majority. 5-5 tonight. Delegate estimates aren't set in stone either. Hillary almost lost Iowa a few days ago before her delegates started demanding recounts for hours until some Bernie delegates had to leave. | ||
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kwizach
3658 Posts
On March 16 2016 14:58 GreenHorizons wrote: Delegate estimates aren't set in stone either. Hillary almost lost Iowa a few days ago before her delegates started demanding recounts for hours until some Bernie delegates had to leave. I think you meant to say until Hillary got the number of delegates that she was supposed to get thanks to the vote she received in the state. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On March 16 2016 14:22 TheTenthDoc wrote: Missouri awards delegates on a district level with (I think) a delegate bonus for the overall plurality. Wouldn't it be neat if we could just have a straightforward system without arbitrary rules everywhere? | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On March 16 2016 14:55 JW_DTLA wrote: Evenly split? Hillary is well on her way to a clean and solid majority. 5-5 tonight. he said he thinks Hillary and Bernie will likely evenly split IN Missouri, where it's 50% vs 49% resulting in 36 vs 35 delegates IN missouri according to him. In contrast to the REP Missouri rules that give some bonus to the one who won no matter how small the margin if what people here are saying is correct. damn, don't pull all-nighters and type on the net. Should be readable now | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4460 Posts
On March 16 2016 13:51 jubil wrote: We already had that, it was/is the Occupy movement. And before that, it was Howard Dean. In general, the Tea Party crowd have been far more effective in pulling their party to the fringe and getting actual electoral representation for themselves than the populist leftists. My pet theory is that Occupy is easier for Democrats to co-opt because they already have some decent ideological ties with that crowd through the union angle, and both groups at least agree on social issues, whereas the difference between the Chamber of Commerce Republicans/neoconservative Republicans and the Tea Party Republicans is night and day, with the evangelicals caught awkwardly in the middle. I also think that if the economy continues to improve, the appeal of Sanders-esque politicians will die down some; and the opposite if things take another dip. I don't want to get bogged down too much with this but i believe it's because the leftist groups like OWS have more infighting than the tea party.Search "Richmond progressive stack" on youtube and you'll see what i mean. | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
Black lives matter! Tear down the patriarchy! My body my choice! Legalize weed! Raise the minimum wage! COMMUNISM ANARCHY FUCK CAPITALISM WOOOO!! Wait what were we here for? Identity politics. Yup, that's how OWS was destroyed. You don't let the men who organized it speak because they are "privileged". Sad. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On March 16 2016 14:22 TheTenthDoc wrote: Missouri awards delegates on a district level with (I think) a delegate bonus for the overall plurality. Found this, if anyone else cares: http://www.stltoday.com/news/national/govt-and-politics/gop-delegates-democratic-delegates-at-stake-in-missouri-voting/article_dfa9a338-be87-5d2d-84d3-efd73244af64.html The two Missouri parties are using differing formulas for determining how their national convention delegates will be allotted. Had any Republican won more than 50 percent of the statewide vote, he would have gotten all 52 GOP delegates from Missouri to the party's national convention this summer in Cleveland. But that didn't happen. So the top vote-getting candidate statewide - apparently Trump - will get 12 and the remaining 40 will be awarded based on results in each of the state's eight U.S. House districts. The leading vote-getter in each district will each get five delegates. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28916 Posts
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Luolis
Finland7198 Posts
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
On March 16 2016 17:24 Liquid`Drone wrote: Gotta go to work so I can't really elaborate or answer for a good while, but the idea of being opposed to organized religion while planning on voting for a republican candidate is a fucking joke. First off, every candidate is going to suck up to religion. Doesn't matter who it is. I thought he was a complete joke at first too. But then the media attacked and kept misrepresenting the man. Almost any attack directed at him I could point to you evidence of them framing arguments, making up arguments, and generally falsifying what he has said and things about his life. Everything's a hit piece in some small way. Even the extremely rare semi-positives always have some hit piece to them. Donald J Trump has socially liberal NYC-like values, but respects conservative economic policies. He's a capitalist, and a nationalist with left leaning views but is widely accepted by conservatives and democrats alike. The perfect candidate for all except traitorous scum. He's 100x better than that lying commie Bolshevik Bernie Panders. He cares about hard workers and taking care of people. On healthcare: "I'm not going to let anyone just die on the streets. We'll take care of people." What class. He's high energy, and his really revving up his fanbase and making a stir. I bet wherever he goes, the economy goes up too. People want to walk more and get out more and do more for America because of him. So many people have a common goal and ideal and a common sense of identity. What an inspiration. It's nothing like the constant divisive left that pretends at unity but keeps making a note of our differences. Look at this great olive branch and how accepting these high energy nimble navigators are in his subreddit. It's a really great branch, the best. They extend the best branches. https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4allva/to_the_sanders_supporters_lurking/ Just look at this fine mans generosity. http://www.ijreview.com/2015/11/461306-these-5-acts-of-kindness-reveal-theres-more-to-donald-trump-than-just-his-celebrity-persona/ No man whose this despised by the media can be evil. Everyone who knows the man loves him. A vote for Trump is a vote to fight degeneracy. I should make a megapost to get you up to speed on how fantastic Trump is. If this mini reddit post doesn't convince you well, I might make one. I'll consider this a mini-post. Even at the age of 69, he gets out there every day. His voice is sometimes hoarse from all the yelling he has to do at one of his many rallies, where he has talked to millions of Americans. The man is a natural uniter. He's great business for the media. He's a great businessman. People love him and want to see what he does next, and they think he's bold and powerful. Never smoked, did drugs, or drank his entire life. Raised a beautiful family despite working all the time. Built many solid relationships across all peoples and all races. Did business all around the globe. In comparison, people are saying Bernie didn't have a job until he was 40. He doesn't have children. He's never run a business or employed people. All he seems to do is be a career politician and yell about capitalism. Can you even trust Bernie? Maybe he ran this whole campaign just to bankrupt college kids everywhere. At least Trump made a man of himself and then funded himself, and employed thousands of people whom love and adore him along the way. Plus, billionaire whose trying to save America? Are you sure he's not batman? | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
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trulojucreathrma.com
United States327 Posts
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