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On March 16 2016 13:22 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 13:18 m4ini wrote:On March 16 2016 13:17 Plansix wrote:On March 16 2016 13:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On March 16 2016 12:52 m4ini wrote:On March 16 2016 12:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On March 16 2016 12:35 oBlade wrote:On March 16 2016 12:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On March 16 2016 12:22 oBlade wrote:On March 16 2016 12:16 m4ini wrote:
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I don't see the correlation between objectified and oppressive.
Do you not think it's an issue then? I think DPB believes it is. I don't follow the second part of that claim- that it's oppressive to let women wear and do what they want. Who said that? It sounds like someone took someone else's (my?) words out of context. I'm pretty sure that "earning as much as a man makes for the same work" and "having autonomy and control of her own body" would be two things that women would love to be able to do, but still can't. I'm suggesting that your notion of "objectifies" might actually be based on misconstruing women's choices in a free society as that society oppressing them. I don't believe the other two points qualify as objectification. Ah, I see. I think that even today, girls are being raised in an environment where the perfect figure/ bust/ looks/ bodies are so ubiquitous that girls frequently don't feel like they have the choice to be anything "flawed". Plastic surgery, airbrushing, photoshop, etc. It puts unreasonable demands on young women, lowers their self-esteem and perceived self-worth, and external objectification leads to inferiority complexes and self-objectification. There's a lot of good literature on this, actually. Here's a quote from one source: "According to Fredrickson and Roberts (1997), the cultural practice of sexual objectification leads to self-objectification, which turns into self-surveillance, causing psychological consequences and mental health risks in victims. Sexual objectification means that women are widely seen as sex objects for male sexual pleasure. This objectification occurs in two areas: (1) interpersonal or social encounters, and (2) media exposure. “Interpersonal or social encounters include catcalls, checking out/ staring at, or gazing at women’s bodies, sexual comments, and harassment." ~ http://commons.emich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1065&context=mcnair The above published research article goes into a lot of depth on the subject. It really does harm and negatively influence women. That's the single one thing that i'd say "men" and "boys" are struggling with equally. And not just since yesteryear, it has always been like that. Never watched a movie where people cheered because the acne-riddled nerd got the girl, rather than the sportsdude? That's exactly the point though: in those movies, the girl is a prize to be won. She's the princess who needs to be rescued. She's the object that the boys need to compete for. She's defined by her worth to men. And nerds are these magical, special creatures that are vindicated by a girl finally seeing how special they are. That girls didn't like them because they are shallow and have bad taste in boys. Not because the nerd is just a huge jerk, that couldn't' be the case ever. You mean the jock? The jock is clearly bad and not the nerd. He is a bad boy and the thing girls want because they are told. The nerd is magic and unloved because the world is against him and only a magical girl can see his true worth. So the movies tell us. The girl is a prize for the nerd being good and magical. She has not agency and cannot like the jock for her own reasons. She is validation that the nerd is a good, worthy person.
That's too abstract for me, i blame it being 4:30am.
My point is/was, it's not just "a nerd" getting the girl. It's "the hero" getting her. I stand corrected on the "visuals" part on it, but saying that "males" don't have roles especially in younger ages is simply false.
You either look good, or you're a hero. Or both. There's no winning in being an ugly scared fuck.
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What I'm looking forward to is the next generation of Bernie Sanders politicians that will be springing up in the years to come. He's spawning the democrats' own version of a Tea Party.
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On March 16 2016 13:25 SK.Testie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 13:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Yeahhh that's definitely not true. Regardless of your sex, a high metabolism makes things so much easier for staying in shape. I was blessed with one and my fiancee wasn't, and she has to scrutinize over everything she eats, whereas I eat like a pig and still maintain an athletic build pretty easily. I need to get better at that before my metabolism really slows x.x But anyway, both men and women can work their asses off for their perfect figure, especially if genetics isn't really helping. K this is definitely not political. But no. Fuck you, fuck every person like you. If you think it's hard to lose weight, you are a weak fucking coward of a human being. Fuck off. I can lose weight in a fucking heartbeat by eating this every single day. And you can too, and everyone can too. Any fatties in this thread listen up, Testies super diet is here. Morning: Bowl of kale with vinegar (1 batch of kale) Lunch: Bowl of kale with vinegar (1 batch of kale) Supper: 1/2 cup rice, 1 piece of salmon, 3-4 cups of vegetables of your choosing. No fancy sauces, just actual spices that are healthy and maybe some lemon or lime juice. You will lose weight. No snacks, no cheating, no cheat days, just pure easy autistic discipline.
Fuck your kale. I'm not eating that goddamned weed regardless of how hard all these people try to make it trendy.
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CNN and the AP have called Illinois for Hillary. 4/5 so far  Missouri looking to be close!
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On March 16 2016 13:25 xDaunt wrote:
What I'm looking forward to is the next generation of Bernie Sanders politicians that will be springing up in the years to come. He's spawning the democrats' own version of a Tea Party.
This is actually very possible, yup.
Although, i don't see no reason why the democrats shouldn't have a "loonie-wing" too.
Fuck your kale. I'm not eating that goddamned weed regardless of how hard all these people try to make it trendy.
Dude, the kale is your problem? Everything has vinegar in or on it, i fucking clean windows with that shit.
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On March 16 2016 13:27 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 13:25 SK.Testie wrote:On March 16 2016 13:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Yeahhh that's definitely not true. Regardless of your sex, a high metabolism makes things so much easier for staying in shape. I was blessed with one and my fiancee wasn't, and she has to scrutinize over everything she eats, whereas I eat like a pig and still maintain an athletic build pretty easily. I need to get better at that before my metabolism really slows x.x But anyway, both men and women can work their asses off for their perfect figure, especially if genetics isn't really helping. K this is definitely not political. But no. Fuck you, fuck every person like you. If you think it's hard to lose weight, you are a weak fucking coward of a human being. Fuck off. I can lose weight in a fucking heartbeat by eating this every single day. And you can too, and everyone can too. Any fatties in this thread listen up, Testies super diet is here. Morning: Bowl of kale with vinegar (1 batch of kale) Lunch: Bowl of kale with vinegar (1 batch of kale) Supper: 1/2 cup rice, 1 piece of salmon, 3-4 cups of vegetables of your choosing. No fancy sauces, just actual spices that are healthy and maybe some lemon or lime juice. You will lose weight. No snacks, no cheating, no cheat days, just pure easy autistic discipline. Fuck your kale. I'm not eating that goddamned weed regardless of how hard all these people try to make it trendy.
You bake it you fuck. They become chips if you bake it for 15-20 minutes. Then pour some vinegar and it's like eating some shitty chips that you know are revitalizing the fuck out of you with their super health. After the desired weight is lost, you can just go back to eating regularly.
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On March 16 2016 13:27 m4ini wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 13:25 xDaunt wrote:
What I'm looking forward to is the next generation of Bernie Sanders politicians that will be springing up in the years to come. He's spawning the democrats' own version of a Tea Party. This is actually very possible, yup. Although, i don't see no reason why the democrats shouldn't have a "loonie-wing" too.
I have a friend whose dad is very high up in the democrat party. He's pretty sure that the democrats are only about 4-8 years behind where the republicans are now.
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On March 16 2016 13:18 thePunGun wrote:
I don't know who started this nonsense, but this is NOT THE MEN VS FEMINISM DEBATE CLUB!
So could we get back on track to U.S. POLITICS?!
While we spent a few pages just now talking about that topic, keep in mind that it's not completely unrelated to politics. Hillary Clinton and Carly Fiorina are/ were presidential nominees, and they received their fair share of prejudicial remarks based on their sex.
Furthermore, I'd argue that civil rights and sex/ gender equality are relevant to political discussions too, even if not directly about a presidential candidate. But I'm fine with changing the subject
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On March 16 2016 13:25 SK.Testie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 13:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Yeahhh that's definitely not true. Regardless of your sex, a high metabolism makes things so much easier for staying in shape. I was blessed with one and my fiancee wasn't, and she has to scrutinize over everything she eats, whereas I eat like a pig and still maintain an athletic build pretty easily. I need to get better at that before my metabolism really slows x.x But anyway, both men and women can work their asses off for their perfect figure, especially if genetics isn't really helping. K this is definitely not political. But no. Fuck you, fuck every person like you. If you think it's hard to lose weight, you are a weak fucking coward of a human being. Fuck off. I can lose weight in a fucking heartbeat by eating this every single day. And you can too, and everyone can too. Any fatties in this thread listen up, Testies super diet is here. Morning: Bowl of kale with vinegar (1 batch of kale) Lunch: Bowl of kale with vinegar (1 batch of kale) Supper: 1/2 cup rice, 1 piece of salmon, 3-4 cups of vegetables of your choosing. No fancy sauces, just actual spices that are healthy and maybe some lemon or lime juice. You will lose weight. No snacks, no cheating, no cheat days, just pure easy autistic discipline. Edit: not only will you lose weight, you will lose weight extremely fast. I dieted before and exercised 1-2h a day without losing weight for 3-6 months. I switched to Testies king diet and 20pounds in like 2 months. Not even kidding. Shit just melted away.
Are you saying that what you're describing is not working your ass off for that perfect figure or what? Because that sure as hell sounds like working your ass off, so you seem to agree with DPB here. Pure autistic determination doesn't qualify as working your ass off to you? What?
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On March 16 2016 13:27 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 13:25 SK.Testie wrote:On March 16 2016 13:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Yeahhh that's definitely not true. Regardless of your sex, a high metabolism makes things so much easier for staying in shape. I was blessed with one and my fiancee wasn't, and she has to scrutinize over everything she eats, whereas I eat like a pig and still maintain an athletic build pretty easily. I need to get better at that before my metabolism really slows x.x But anyway, both men and women can work their asses off for their perfect figure, especially if genetics isn't really helping. K this is definitely not political. But no. Fuck you, fuck every person like you. If you think it's hard to lose weight, you are a weak fucking coward of a human being. Fuck off. I can lose weight in a fucking heartbeat by eating this every single day. And you can too, and everyone can too. Any fatties in this thread listen up, Testies super diet is here. Morning: Bowl of kale with vinegar (1 batch of kale) Lunch: Bowl of kale with vinegar (1 batch of kale) Supper: 1/2 cup rice, 1 piece of salmon, 3-4 cups of vegetables of your choosing. No fancy sauces, just actual spices that are healthy and maybe some lemon or lime juice. You will lose weight. No snacks, no cheating, no cheat days, just pure easy autistic discipline. Fuck your kale. I'm not eating that goddamned weed regardless of how hard all these people try to make it trendy. Kale is fine, especially kale chips. Just as good at potato chip.
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On March 16 2016 13:27 kwizach wrote:CNN called Illinois for Hillary. 4/5 so far Missouri looking to be close!
Especially with Jackson County being 287/321 and St. Lous being 493/533 reported. She has about 10% leads in those.
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On March 16 2016 13:25 xDaunt wrote:
What I'm looking forward to is the next generation of Bernie Sanders politicians that will be springing up in the years to come. He's spawning the democrats' own version of a Tea Party.
Doubtful, the Teaparty's only purpose was to get the Koch brother's agenda into the spotlight!
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I'm a Hillary supporter but I do agree with Sanders on basically 85% of what he says; if he had won the nomination, I would have been perfectly content to vote for him. Besides disagreeing with some of his policy, I think that he would have gotten slammed hard by Republicans over the whole "omg he's a SOCIALIST!?!?!" thing (look how easy it was for them to paint Obama as a radical Muslim terrorist...) and we've all seen Trump especially be quite effective with these sorts of personal image attacks.
As far as going forward, it's all in Sanders's hands. I just hope he doesn't start running bitter, personal attacks because it will drive liberal Democrats away from Hillary, the Republicans can use it as a wedge in the general, and it would kind of kill the positive, uplifting image Bernie has built up. On the other hand, sticking to substance I think is a win-win. Bernie pushes Clinton to the left a bit, and Clinton can be conciliatory and reach out to his supporters.
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It'll be a true photo finish in Missouri on the Democrat side.
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On March 16 2016 13:29 TheTenthDoc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 13:25 SK.Testie wrote:On March 16 2016 13:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Yeahhh that's definitely not true. Regardless of your sex, a high metabolism makes things so much easier for staying in shape. I was blessed with one and my fiancee wasn't, and she has to scrutinize over everything she eats, whereas I eat like a pig and still maintain an athletic build pretty easily. I need to get better at that before my metabolism really slows x.x But anyway, both men and women can work their asses off for their perfect figure, especially if genetics isn't really helping. K this is definitely not political. But no. Fuck you, fuck every person like you. If you think it's hard to lose weight, you are a weak fucking coward of a human being. Fuck off. I can lose weight in a fucking heartbeat by eating this every single day. And you can too, and everyone can too. Any fatties in this thread listen up, Testies super diet is here. Morning: Bowl of kale with vinegar (1 batch of kale) Lunch: Bowl of kale with vinegar (1 batch of kale) Supper: 1/2 cup rice, 1 piece of salmon, 3-4 cups of vegetables of your choosing. No fancy sauces, just actual spices that are healthy and maybe some lemon or lime juice. You will lose weight. No snacks, no cheating, no cheat days, just pure easy autistic discipline. Edit: not only will you lose weight, you will lose weight extremely fast. I dieted before and exercised 1-2h a day without losing weight for 3-6 months. I switched to Testies king diet and 20pounds in like 2 months. Not even kidding. Shit just melted away. Are you saying that what you're describing is not working your ass off for that perfect figure or what? Because that sure as hell sounds like working your ass off, so you seem to agree with DPB here. Pure autistic determination doesn't qualify as working your ass off to you? What?
At no point in changing my diet did I think it was working my ass off. It wasn't a struggle. During the Kale part of my diet I stopped ALL exercise, sat on my ass all day, and shit posted and played vidya games. It's so easy, anyone can do it. Anyone but a fat woman who doesn't want to be fat shamed, but totally won't tell you what she really eats and will say, "I eat a lot of salads". Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
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So I was looking at the voting numbers... For North Carolina reported something like 2.5 million voters but the state has 10 million + population. I Know it's only democrats and republicans but are voting numbers really that terrible?
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On March 16 2016 13:25 SK.Testie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 13:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Yeahhh that's definitely not true. Regardless of your sex, a high metabolism makes things so much easier for staying in shape. I was blessed with one and my fiancee wasn't, and she has to scrutinize over everything she eats, whereas I eat like a pig and still maintain an athletic build pretty easily. I need to get better at that before my metabolism really slows x.x But anyway, both men and women can work their asses off for their perfect figure, especially if genetics isn't really helping. K this is definitely not political. But no. Fuck you, fuck every person like you. If you think it's hard to lose weight, you are a weak fucking coward of a human being. Fuck off. I can lose weight in a fucking heartbeat by eating this every single day. And you can too, and everyone can too. Any fatties in this thread listen up, Testies super diet is here. Morning: Bowl of kale with vinegar (1 batch of kale) Lunch: Bowl of kale with vinegar (1 batch of kale) Supper: 1/2 cup rice, 1 piece of salmon, 3-4 cups of vegetables of your choosing. No fancy sauces, just actual spices that are healthy and maybe some lemon or lime juice. You will lose weight. No snacks, no cheating, no cheat days, just pure easy autistic discipline. Edit: not only will you lose weight, you will lose weight extremely fast. I dieted before and exercised 1-2h a day without losing weight for 3-6 months. I switched to Testies king diet and 20pounds in like 2 months. Not even kidding. Shit just melted away.
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or just went temporarily crazy or something, but I think it's best if we change the subject. You're not really that funny.
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On March 16 2016 13:31 SK.Testie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 13:29 TheTenthDoc wrote:On March 16 2016 13:25 SK.Testie wrote:On March 16 2016 13:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Yeahhh that's definitely not true. Regardless of your sex, a high metabolism makes things so much easier for staying in shape. I was blessed with one and my fiancee wasn't, and she has to scrutinize over everything she eats, whereas I eat like a pig and still maintain an athletic build pretty easily. I need to get better at that before my metabolism really slows x.x But anyway, both men and women can work their asses off for their perfect figure, especially if genetics isn't really helping. K this is definitely not political. But no. Fuck you, fuck every person like you. If you think it's hard to lose weight, you are a weak fucking coward of a human being. Fuck off. I can lose weight in a fucking heartbeat by eating this every single day. And you can too, and everyone can too. Any fatties in this thread listen up, Testies super diet is here. Morning: Bowl of kale with vinegar (1 batch of kale) Lunch: Bowl of kale with vinegar (1 batch of kale) Supper: 1/2 cup rice, 1 piece of salmon, 3-4 cups of vegetables of your choosing. No fancy sauces, just actual spices that are healthy and maybe some lemon or lime juice. You will lose weight. No snacks, no cheating, no cheat days, just pure easy autistic discipline. Edit: not only will you lose weight, you will lose weight extremely fast. I dieted before and exercised 1-2h a day without losing weight for 3-6 months. I switched to Testies king diet and 20pounds in like 2 months. Not even kidding. Shit just melted away. Are you saying that what you're describing is not working your ass off for that perfect figure or what? Because that sure as hell sounds like working your ass off, so you seem to agree with DPB here. Pure autistic determination doesn't qualify as working your ass off to you? What? At no point in changing my diet did I think it was working my ass off. It wasn't a struggle. During the Kale part of my diet I stopped ALL exercise, sat on my ass all day, and shit posted and played vidya games. It's so easy, anyone can do it. Anyone but a fat woman who doesn't want to be fat shamed, but totally won't tell you what she really eats and will say, "I eat a lot of salads". Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
Well with no energy for that, hardly surprising 
I actually did weightwatchers for a while, lost almost 2,5 stone. Expensive as fuck, but at least it tastes like something.
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On March 16 2016 13:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 13:18 thePunGun wrote:
I don't know who started this nonsense, but this is NOT THE MEN VS FEMINISM DEBATE CLUB!
So could we get back on track to U.S. POLITICS?! While we spent a few pages just now talking about that topic, keep in mind that it's not completely unrelated to politics. Hillary Clinton and Carly Fiorina are/ were presidential nominees, and they received their fair share of prejudicial remarks based on their sex. Furthermore, I'd argue that civil rights and sex/ gender equality are relevant to political discussions too, even if not directly about a presidential candidate. But I'm fine with changing the subject
Your starting point might be a biased lens if you think it's a sexist comment when people make fun of Carly Fiorina's face but not Ted Cruz's.
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Any sites with updated delegate counts?
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