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Lol i love how liberalism turns on itself. They support feminism and LBGT rights, but at the same time won't condemn Islam. Islam and Islamic culture is the chief enemy of feminism and gay rights. But Trump is a terrible person because he makes an inapproiate joke
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United States22883 Posts
On March 16 2016 11:24 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 11:22 TheTenthDoc wrote:On March 16 2016 11:17 SK.Testie wrote:On March 16 2016 11:05 Plansix wrote:On March 16 2016 11:01 m4ini wrote:On March 16 2016 10:57 Plansix wrote:On March 16 2016 10:56 kwizach wrote:
Can you guys please keep your posts about refugees in Germany and Sweden to the European politics thread? Yes, please return to the Stormfront thread. While i agree that we shouldn't derail further (i'll stop now): We are in the stormfront thread. Just as a sidenote. Stormfront is US based. Yeah, I just liked it more when it wasn't here. But now they will bravely face the mean liberals that might call them racist. They have built up the courage to come out of the shadows and live full lives, proudly showing their faces to the world and voicing their opinions, no matter how badly their feelings might be hurt by the r-word. Ok, first off. Calling people who disagree with you users from stormfront despite showing no allegiance to said thing is retarded. It's literally, "Our argument has no legs to stand on. Must be super horrible racists". I just posted a pretty civil german father with genuine worries for his daughter. "lol stormfront". Jimmy Carter did something not entirely similar but similar during the Iranian crisis with Iranians. I think you have real people who dislike higher rates of crime in their area. That's all it is. They think, "this is my country, I should have a say on who is allowed in and who isn't". 66% of Americans apparently think they have that say. Stop attempting to take a moral high ground you do not have, and have no right of claim to. I don't have an immigration policy, because I'm not running a country. But off the top of my head if I had one and I was a rich nation, I'd take mostly those whom want to work. And those whom are rich and educated. Much like Japans immigration policy. Also, despite every Republican attempt to thwart Trump they really should just STFU and give him the nomination already. Unlike Bernie, he's winning the popular vote by a landslide. So if the Republicans try to screw him over they're going to be legitimately angry and that will just further diminish the Republican party. He's truly crashing it with no survivors. Fun fact (or at least I'm pretty sure it's a fact based on the states I can remember): Bernie has won a higher share of the popular vote than Trump. And no, barring immigration from a nation is not the same as impossibly blocking immigration of an entire religion. USSR did just fine for a long time by eliminating religion. Jesus fucking christ
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On March 16 2016 11:32 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 11:29 TheTenthDoc wrote:On March 16 2016 11:24 FiWiFaKi wrote:On March 16 2016 11:22 TheTenthDoc wrote:On March 16 2016 11:17 SK.Testie wrote:On March 16 2016 11:05 Plansix wrote:On March 16 2016 11:01 m4ini wrote:On March 16 2016 10:57 Plansix wrote:On March 16 2016 10:56 kwizach wrote:
Can you guys please keep your posts about refugees in Germany and Sweden to the European politics thread? Yes, please return to the Stormfront thread. While i agree that we shouldn't derail further (i'll stop now): We are in the stormfront thread. Just as a sidenote. Stormfront is US based. Yeah, I just liked it more when it wasn't here. But now they will bravely face the mean liberals that might call them racist. They have built up the courage to come out of the shadows and live full lives, proudly showing their faces to the world and voicing their opinions, no matter how badly their feelings might be hurt by the r-word. Ok, first off. Calling people who disagree with you users from stormfront despite showing no allegiance to said thing is retarded. It's literally, "Our argument has no legs to stand on. Must be super horrible racists". I just posted a pretty civil german father with genuine worries for his daughter. "lol stormfront". Jimmy Carter did something not entirely similar but similar during the Iranian crisis with Iranians. I think you have real people who dislike higher rates of crime in their area. That's all it is. They think, "this is my country, I should have a say on who is allowed in and who isn't". 66% of Americans apparently think they have that say. Stop attempting to take a moral high ground you do not have, and have no right of claim to. I don't have an immigration policy, because I'm not running a country. But off the top of my head if I had one and I was a rich nation, I'd take mostly those whom want to work. And those whom are rich and educated. Much like Japans immigration policy. Also, despite every Republican attempt to thwart Trump they really should just STFU and give him the nomination already. Unlike Bernie, he's winning the popular vote by a landslide. So if the Republicans try to screw him over they're going to be legitimately angry and that will just further diminish the Republican party. He's truly crashing it with no survivors. Fun fact (or at least I'm pretty sure it's a fact based on the states I can remember): Bernie has won a higher share of the popular vote than Trump. And no, barring immigration from a nation is not the same as impossibly blocking immigration of an entire religion. He wouldn't if there were more candidates running. Naturally Trump's numbers will go up now that there are fewer candidates. Also blocking a religion is not as extreme or uncommon as you'd think. USSR did just fine for a long time by eliminating religion, and many if not most countries in the world take a strong stance in ensuring things stay the way that they are desired. Its only the liberal movement in western countries that has created the present situation. They won't go up by very much-and will definitely go up less than his competitors. It's hard to win a two-person race when you have higher unfavorables than your opponents. Explain to me our Muslim blocking procedure. Go ahead. I'm all ears and have been since Trump announced the utterly stupid idea. According to who people's second choice was, Trump was up there, so I disagree that his numbers will go up less than his competitors, and if they will, it'll be by very small amounts. And think about how any nation has phased out a religion in the past. Don't encourage it, don't allow universities to provide funding the mosques, screen for immigrants, have higher qualifications for muslim immigrants to enter the country. It's not like Trump will load however many million people on a boat once he becomes president and ship them away lol.
Do you just invent policies for Trump to have? Because his policy was clearly enumerated not to be any of those things. It was no non-citizen Muslims entering the country period and it had nothing to do with culture or rape. There's a reason it only came up after San Bernardino and ISIS became a thing...it's 100% fear of terrorists driven.
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On March 16 2016 11:32 SolaR- wrote:
Lol i love how liberalism turns on itself. They support feminism and LBGT rights, but at the same time won't condemn Islam. Islam and Islamic culture is the chief enemy of feminism and gay rights. But Trump is a terrible person because he makes an inapproiate joke
what joke? they are his policies
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United States22883 Posts
On March 16 2016 11:32 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 11:29 TheTenthDoc wrote:On March 16 2016 11:24 FiWiFaKi wrote:On March 16 2016 11:22 TheTenthDoc wrote:On March 16 2016 11:17 SK.Testie wrote:On March 16 2016 11:05 Plansix wrote:On March 16 2016 11:01 m4ini wrote:On March 16 2016 10:57 Plansix wrote:On March 16 2016 10:56 kwizach wrote:
Can you guys please keep your posts about refugees in Germany and Sweden to the European politics thread? Yes, please return to the Stormfront thread. While i agree that we shouldn't derail further (i'll stop now): We are in the stormfront thread. Just as a sidenote. Stormfront is US based. Yeah, I just liked it more when it wasn't here. But now they will bravely face the mean liberals that might call them racist. They have built up the courage to come out of the shadows and live full lives, proudly showing their faces to the world and voicing their opinions, no matter how badly their feelings might be hurt by the r-word. Ok, first off. Calling people who disagree with you users from stormfront despite showing no allegiance to said thing is retarded. It's literally, "Our argument has no legs to stand on. Must be super horrible racists". I just posted a pretty civil german father with genuine worries for his daughter. "lol stormfront". Jimmy Carter did something not entirely similar but similar during the Iranian crisis with Iranians. I think you have real people who dislike higher rates of crime in their area. That's all it is. They think, "this is my country, I should have a say on who is allowed in and who isn't". 66% of Americans apparently think they have that say. Stop attempting to take a moral high ground you do not have, and have no right of claim to. I don't have an immigration policy, because I'm not running a country. But off the top of my head if I had one and I was a rich nation, I'd take mostly those whom want to work. And those whom are rich and educated. Much like Japans immigration policy. Also, despite every Republican attempt to thwart Trump they really should just STFU and give him the nomination already. Unlike Bernie, he's winning the popular vote by a landslide. So if the Republicans try to screw him over they're going to be legitimately angry and that will just further diminish the Republican party. He's truly crashing it with no survivors. Fun fact (or at least I'm pretty sure it's a fact based on the states I can remember): Bernie has won a higher share of the popular vote than Trump. And no, barring immigration from a nation is not the same as impossibly blocking immigration of an entire religion. He wouldn't if there were more candidates running. Naturally Trump's numbers will go up now that there are fewer candidates. Also blocking a religion is not as extreme or uncommon as you'd think. USSR did just fine for a long time by eliminating religion, and many if not most countries in the world take a strong stance in ensuring things stay the way that they are desired. Its only the liberal movement in western countries that has created the present situation. They won't go up by very much-and will definitely go up less than his competitors. It's hard to win a two-person race when you have higher unfavorables than your opponents. Explain to me our Muslim blocking procedure. Go ahead. I'm all ears and have been since Trump announced the utterly stupid idea. According to who people's second choice was, Trump was up there, so I disagree that his numbers will go up less than his competitors, and if they will, it'll be by very small amounts. And think about how any nation has phased out a religion in the past. Don't encourage it, don't allow universities to provide funding the mosques, screen for immigrants, have higher qualifications for muslim immigrants to enter the country. It's not like Trump will load however many million people on a boat once he becomes president and ship them away lol.
Are you willing to condemn Trump if he doesn't propose cutting funding and tax breaks for churches as well?
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On March 16 2016 11:35 Doraemon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 11:32 SolaR- wrote:
Lol i love how liberalism turns on itself. They support feminism and LBGT rights, but at the same time won't condemn Islam. Islam and Islamic culture is the chief enemy of feminism and gay rights. But Trump is a terrible person because he makes an inapproiate joke what joke? they are his policies
I always considered his policies the joke.
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Norway28715 Posts
On March 16 2016 11:17 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 11:13 Liquid`Drone wrote:On March 16 2016 10:59 xDaunt wrote:On March 16 2016 10:57 SK.Testie wrote:On March 16 2016 10:54 Liquid`Drone wrote:On March 16 2016 10:15 SK.Testie wrote:![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B5pwOrYIEAANU0K.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/LiquidDrone/gopvoters.png) We should celebrate and tolerate 7th century ideas that are completely diametrically opposed to western secularism? Liberals have always had defective self-preservation instincts. Good thing we have people with a more violent and militaristic disposition to protect us from the more violent and militaristicly disposed people?  For some reason, the phrase "dicks fuck assholes" is ringing in my brain....
And pussies calm down dicks. Relax.
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On March 16 2016 11:34 TheTenthDoc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 11:32 FiWiFaKi wrote:On March 16 2016 11:29 TheTenthDoc wrote:On March 16 2016 11:24 FiWiFaKi wrote:On March 16 2016 11:22 TheTenthDoc wrote:On March 16 2016 11:17 SK.Testie wrote:On March 16 2016 11:05 Plansix wrote:On March 16 2016 11:01 m4ini wrote:On March 16 2016 10:57 Plansix wrote:On March 16 2016 10:56 kwizach wrote:
Can you guys please keep your posts about refugees in Germany and Sweden to the European politics thread? Yes, please return to the Stormfront thread. While i agree that we shouldn't derail further (i'll stop now): We are in the stormfront thread. Just as a sidenote. Stormfront is US based. Yeah, I just liked it more when it wasn't here. But now they will bravely face the mean liberals that might call them racist. They have built up the courage to come out of the shadows and live full lives, proudly showing their faces to the world and voicing their opinions, no matter how badly their feelings might be hurt by the r-word. Ok, first off. Calling people who disagree with you users from stormfront despite showing no allegiance to said thing is retarded. It's literally, "Our argument has no legs to stand on. Must be super horrible racists". I just posted a pretty civil german father with genuine worries for his daughter. "lol stormfront". Jimmy Carter did something not entirely similar but similar during the Iranian crisis with Iranians. I think you have real people who dislike higher rates of crime in their area. That's all it is. They think, "this is my country, I should have a say on who is allowed in and who isn't". 66% of Americans apparently think they have that say. Stop attempting to take a moral high ground you do not have, and have no right of claim to. I don't have an immigration policy, because I'm not running a country. But off the top of my head if I had one and I was a rich nation, I'd take mostly those whom want to work. And those whom are rich and educated. Much like Japans immigration policy. Also, despite every Republican attempt to thwart Trump they really should just STFU and give him the nomination already. Unlike Bernie, he's winning the popular vote by a landslide. So if the Republicans try to screw him over they're going to be legitimately angry and that will just further diminish the Republican party. He's truly crashing it with no survivors. Fun fact (or at least I'm pretty sure it's a fact based on the states I can remember): Bernie has won a higher share of the popular vote than Trump. And no, barring immigration from a nation is not the same as impossibly blocking immigration of an entire religion. He wouldn't if there were more candidates running. Naturally Trump's numbers will go up now that there are fewer candidates. Also blocking a religion is not as extreme or uncommon as you'd think. USSR did just fine for a long time by eliminating religion, and many if not most countries in the world take a strong stance in ensuring things stay the way that they are desired. Its only the liberal movement in western countries that has created the present situation. They won't go up by very much-and will definitely go up less than his competitors. It's hard to win a two-person race when you have higher unfavorables than your opponents. Explain to me our Muslim blocking procedure. Go ahead. I'm all ears and have been since Trump announced the utterly stupid idea. According to who people's second choice was, Trump was up there, so I disagree that his numbers will go up less than his competitors, and if they will, it'll be by very small amounts. And think about how any nation has phased out a religion in the past. Don't encourage it, don't allow universities to provide funding the mosques, screen for immigrants, have higher qualifications for muslim immigrants to enter the country. It's not like Trump will load however many million people on a boat once he becomes president and ship them away lol. Do you just invent policies for Trump to have? Because his policy was clearly enumerated not to be any of those things. It was no non-citizen Muslims entering the country period and it had nothing to do with culture or rape. There's a reason it only came up after San Bernardino and ISIS became a thing...it's 100% fear of terrorists driven.
The subject at hand is to decide whether or not the move to ban Muslisms from entering the USA will be beneficial to the USA or not.
There definitely needs some form of cost benefit analysis.
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On March 16 2016 11:32 SolaR- wrote:
Lol i love how liberalism turns on itself. They support feminism and LBGT rights, but at the same time won't condemn Islam. Islam and Islamic culture is the chief enemy of feminism and gay rights. But Trump is a terrible person because he makes an inapproiate joke
That's 1.5 billion people. Liberals are all about nuance and maybe like condemning specific nations or regions. Condemning all of Islam just make you sound uneducated.
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On March 16 2016 11:35 Doraemon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 11:32 SolaR- wrote:
Lol i love how liberalism turns on itself. They support feminism and LBGT rights, but at the same time won't condemn Islam. Islam and Islamic culture is the chief enemy of feminism and gay rights. But Trump is a terrible person because he makes an inapproiate joke what joke? they are his policies
You mean the policy of having immigration rules and border control which pretty much any normal country has? No, lets just let a ton of people in who come from extremist countries who want to kill us, and have the ability to make fake passports and have no background
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On March 16 2016 11:36 ErectedZenith wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 11:34 TheTenthDoc wrote:On March 16 2016 11:32 FiWiFaKi wrote:On March 16 2016 11:29 TheTenthDoc wrote:On March 16 2016 11:24 FiWiFaKi wrote:On March 16 2016 11:22 TheTenthDoc wrote:On March 16 2016 11:17 SK.Testie wrote:On March 16 2016 11:05 Plansix wrote:On March 16 2016 11:01 m4ini wrote:On March 16 2016 10:57 Plansix wrote:
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Yes, please return to the Stormfront thread. While i agree that we shouldn't derail further (i'll stop now): We are in the stormfront thread. Just as a sidenote. Stormfront is US based. Yeah, I just liked it more when it wasn't here. But now they will bravely face the mean liberals that might call them racist. They have built up the courage to come out of the shadows and live full lives, proudly showing their faces to the world and voicing their opinions, no matter how badly their feelings might be hurt by the r-word. Ok, first off. Calling people who disagree with you users from stormfront despite showing no allegiance to said thing is retarded. It's literally, "Our argument has no legs to stand on. Must be super horrible racists". I just posted a pretty civil german father with genuine worries for his daughter. "lol stormfront". Jimmy Carter did something not entirely similar but similar during the Iranian crisis with Iranians. I think you have real people who dislike higher rates of crime in their area. That's all it is. They think, "this is my country, I should have a say on who is allowed in and who isn't". 66% of Americans apparently think they have that say. Stop attempting to take a moral high ground you do not have, and have no right of claim to. I don't have an immigration policy, because I'm not running a country. But off the top of my head if I had one and I was a rich nation, I'd take mostly those whom want to work. And those whom are rich and educated. Much like Japans immigration policy. Also, despite every Republican attempt to thwart Trump they really should just STFU and give him the nomination already. Unlike Bernie, he's winning the popular vote by a landslide. So if the Republicans try to screw him over they're going to be legitimately angry and that will just further diminish the Republican party. He's truly crashing it with no survivors. Fun fact (or at least I'm pretty sure it's a fact based on the states I can remember): Bernie has won a higher share of the popular vote than Trump. And no, barring immigration from a nation is not the same as impossibly blocking immigration of an entire religion. He wouldn't if there were more candidates running. Naturally Trump's numbers will go up now that there are fewer candidates. Also blocking a religion is not as extreme or uncommon as you'd think. USSR did just fine for a long time by eliminating religion, and many if not most countries in the world take a strong stance in ensuring things stay the way that they are desired. Its only the liberal movement in western countries that has created the present situation. They won't go up by very much-and will definitely go up less than his competitors. It's hard to win a two-person race when you have higher unfavorables than your opponents. Explain to me our Muslim blocking procedure. Go ahead. I'm all ears and have been since Trump announced the utterly stupid idea. According to who people's second choice was, Trump was up there, so I disagree that his numbers will go up less than his competitors, and if they will, it'll be by very small amounts. And think about how any nation has phased out a religion in the past. Don't encourage it, don't allow universities to provide funding the mosques, screen for immigrants, have higher qualifications for muslim immigrants to enter the country. It's not like Trump will load however many million people on a boat once he becomes president and ship them away lol. Do you just invent policies for Trump to have? Because his policy was clearly enumerated not to be any of those things. It was no non-citizen Muslims entering the country period and it had nothing to do with culture or rape. There's a reason it only came up after San Bernardino and ISIS became a thing...it's 100% fear of terrorists driven. The subject at hand is to decide whether or not the move to ban Muslisms from entering the USA will be beneficial to the USA or not. There definitely needs some form of cost benefit analysis.
Are you implying Trump can do that analysis or something, I'm pretty lost. I'm also pretty lost at why anyone is thinking Trump knows anything about the European Muslim situation or why people think he thinks Islam is pure evil when before San Bernardino he was in favor of letting in refugees
On March 16 2016 11:38 SolaR- wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 11:35 Doraemon wrote:On March 16 2016 11:32 SolaR- wrote:
Lol i love how liberalism turns on itself. They support feminism and LBGT rights, but at the same time won't condemn Islam. Islam and Islamic culture is the chief enemy of feminism and gay rights. But Trump is a terrible person because he makes an inapproiate joke what joke? they are his policies You mean the policy of having immigration rules and border control which pretty much any normal country has? No, lets just let a ton of people in who come from extremist countries who want to kill us, and have the ability to make fake passports and have no background
Rand Paul and Cruz floated ideas to stop that, Trump didn't.
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Serious question: how do the left-leaning posters who were supporting Sanders over Hillary in this thread feel about him (1) continuing his campaign and (2) continuing his attacks against Hillary?
I mean, anyone with a grasp of reality surely knows Hillary will be the nominee of the Democratic party, and will be the only left-leaning/progressive/liberal candidate fighting in the general election with a shot at winning. Even if you support Sanders getting his message across, do you not agree that it is counter-productive to keep attacking the Democratic nominee and to fend off attacks on two fronts (Trump & Sanders) instead of focusing on the Republicans?
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United States22883 Posts
On March 16 2016 11:36 ErectedZenith wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 11:34 TheTenthDoc wrote:On March 16 2016 11:32 FiWiFaKi wrote:On March 16 2016 11:29 TheTenthDoc wrote:On March 16 2016 11:24 FiWiFaKi wrote:On March 16 2016 11:22 TheTenthDoc wrote:On March 16 2016 11:17 SK.Testie wrote:On March 16 2016 11:05 Plansix wrote:On March 16 2016 11:01 m4ini wrote:On March 16 2016 10:57 Plansix wrote:
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Yes, please return to the Stormfront thread. While i agree that we shouldn't derail further (i'll stop now): We are in the stormfront thread. Just as a sidenote. Stormfront is US based. Yeah, I just liked it more when it wasn't here. But now they will bravely face the mean liberals that might call them racist. They have built up the courage to come out of the shadows and live full lives, proudly showing their faces to the world and voicing their opinions, no matter how badly their feelings might be hurt by the r-word. Ok, first off. Calling people who disagree with you users from stormfront despite showing no allegiance to said thing is retarded. It's literally, "Our argument has no legs to stand on. Must be super horrible racists". I just posted a pretty civil german father with genuine worries for his daughter. "lol stormfront". Jimmy Carter did something not entirely similar but similar during the Iranian crisis with Iranians. I think you have real people who dislike higher rates of crime in their area. That's all it is. They think, "this is my country, I should have a say on who is allowed in and who isn't". 66% of Americans apparently think they have that say. Stop attempting to take a moral high ground you do not have, and have no right of claim to. I don't have an immigration policy, because I'm not running a country. But off the top of my head if I had one and I was a rich nation, I'd take mostly those whom want to work. And those whom are rich and educated. Much like Japans immigration policy. Also, despite every Republican attempt to thwart Trump they really should just STFU and give him the nomination already. Unlike Bernie, he's winning the popular vote by a landslide. So if the Republicans try to screw him over they're going to be legitimately angry and that will just further diminish the Republican party. He's truly crashing it with no survivors. Fun fact (or at least I'm pretty sure it's a fact based on the states I can remember): Bernie has won a higher share of the popular vote than Trump. And no, barring immigration from a nation is not the same as impossibly blocking immigration of an entire religion. He wouldn't if there were more candidates running. Naturally Trump's numbers will go up now that there are fewer candidates. Also blocking a religion is not as extreme or uncommon as you'd think. USSR did just fine for a long time by eliminating religion, and many if not most countries in the world take a strong stance in ensuring things stay the way that they are desired. Its only the liberal movement in western countries that has created the present situation. They won't go up by very much-and will definitely go up less than his competitors. It's hard to win a two-person race when you have higher unfavorables than your opponents. Explain to me our Muslim blocking procedure. Go ahead. I'm all ears and have been since Trump announced the utterly stupid idea. According to who people's second choice was, Trump was up there, so I disagree that his numbers will go up less than his competitors, and if they will, it'll be by very small amounts. And think about how any nation has phased out a religion in the past. Don't encourage it, don't allow universities to provide funding the mosques, screen for immigrants, have higher qualifications for muslim immigrants to enter the country. It's not like Trump will load however many million people on a boat once he becomes president and ship them away lol. Do you just invent policies for Trump to have? Because his policy was clearly enumerated not to be any of those things. It was no non-citizen Muslims entering the country period and it had nothing to do with culture or rape. There's a reason it only came up after San Bernardino and ISIS became a thing...it's 100% fear of terrorists driven. The subject at hand is to decide whether or not the move to ban Muslisms from entering the USA will be beneficial to the USA or not. There definitely needs some form of cost benefit analysis.
Right, just like the cost benefit analysis we should do to determine if torture is a good idea (despite the mountains of research and intelligence experience that says it's not).
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How in the world does someone look at the numbers and conclude Bernie can get the nomination? Winning states doesn't gain him the nomination. Winning states by insane margins is the only possibility and it isn't happening.
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United States22883 Posts
On March 16 2016 11:38 SolaR- wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 11:35 Doraemon wrote:On March 16 2016 11:32 SolaR- wrote:
Lol i love how liberalism turns on itself. They support feminism and LBGT rights, but at the same time won't condemn Islam. Islam and Islamic culture is the chief enemy of feminism and gay rights. But Trump is a terrible person because he makes an inapproiate joke what joke? they are his policies You mean the policy of having immigration rules and border control which pretty much any normal country has? No, lets just let a ton of people in who come from extremist countries who want to kill us, and have the ability to make fake passports and have no background
Cite proof that this is happening.
Also, no, bans on entire religions is not what normal countries do, nor do most countries even force you to document your religion (unless they're gearing up for an ethnic cleansing.) You don't seem to know a single thing about foreign policy or IR. Good fucking grief. This is why TL needs a purge again.
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On March 16 2016 11:37 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 11:32 SolaR- wrote:
Lol i love how liberalism turns on itself. They support feminism and LBGT rights, but at the same time won't condemn Islam. Islam and Islamic culture is the chief enemy of feminism and gay rights. But Trump is a terrible person because he makes an inapproiate joke That's 1.5 billion people. Liberals are all about nuance and maybe like condemning specific nations or regions. Condemning all of Islam just make you sound uneducated.
What's the % of Islam don't agree with LGBT lifestyle?
Do we have number on that?
If the number is high enough, then the Leftists are full of shit and if they know about this and STILL go forward? They are only doing this to continue pitting people against each other which is to be expected with their fields of education.
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On March 16 2016 11:38 SolaR- wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 11:35 Doraemon wrote:On March 16 2016 11:32 SolaR- wrote:
Lol i love how liberalism turns on itself. They support feminism and LBGT rights, but at the same time won't condemn Islam. Islam and Islamic culture is the chief enemy of feminism and gay rights. But Trump is a terrible person because he makes an inapproiate joke what joke? they are his policies You mean the policy of having immigration rules and border control which pretty much any normal country has? No, lets just let a ton of people in who come from extremist countries who want to kill us, and have the ability to make fake passports and have no background
None of these are problems the NSA and CIA can't handle already. Really they do a very good job at stopping attacks without the ban.
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On March 16 2016 11:39 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 11:36 ErectedZenith wrote:On March 16 2016 11:34 TheTenthDoc wrote:On March 16 2016 11:32 FiWiFaKi wrote:On March 16 2016 11:29 TheTenthDoc wrote:On March 16 2016 11:24 FiWiFaKi wrote:On March 16 2016 11:22 TheTenthDoc wrote:On March 16 2016 11:17 SK.Testie wrote:On March 16 2016 11:05 Plansix wrote:On March 16 2016 11:01 m4ini wrote:
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While i agree that we shouldn't derail further (i'll stop now):
We are in the stormfront thread. Just as a sidenote. Stormfront is US based. Yeah, I just liked it more when it wasn't here. But now they will bravely face the mean liberals that might call them racist. They have built up the courage to come out of the shadows and live full lives, proudly showing their faces to the world and voicing their opinions, no matter how badly their feelings might be hurt by the r-word. Ok, first off. Calling people who disagree with you users from stormfront despite showing no allegiance to said thing is retarded. It's literally, "Our argument has no legs to stand on. Must be super horrible racists". I just posted a pretty civil german father with genuine worries for his daughter. "lol stormfront". Jimmy Carter did something not entirely similar but similar during the Iranian crisis with Iranians. I think you have real people who dislike higher rates of crime in their area. That's all it is. They think, "this is my country, I should have a say on who is allowed in and who isn't". 66% of Americans apparently think they have that say. Stop attempting to take a moral high ground you do not have, and have no right of claim to. I don't have an immigration policy, because I'm not running a country. But off the top of my head if I had one and I was a rich nation, I'd take mostly those whom want to work. And those whom are rich and educated. Much like Japans immigration policy. Also, despite every Republican attempt to thwart Trump they really should just STFU and give him the nomination already. Unlike Bernie, he's winning the popular vote by a landslide. So if the Republicans try to screw him over they're going to be legitimately angry and that will just further diminish the Republican party. He's truly crashing it with no survivors. Fun fact (or at least I'm pretty sure it's a fact based on the states I can remember): Bernie has won a higher share of the popular vote than Trump. And no, barring immigration from a nation is not the same as impossibly blocking immigration of an entire religion. He wouldn't if there were more candidates running. Naturally Trump's numbers will go up now that there are fewer candidates. Also blocking a religion is not as extreme or uncommon as you'd think. USSR did just fine for a long time by eliminating religion, and many if not most countries in the world take a strong stance in ensuring things stay the way that they are desired. Its only the liberal movement in western countries that has created the present situation. They won't go up by very much-and will definitely go up less than his competitors. It's hard to win a two-person race when you have higher unfavorables than your opponents. Explain to me our Muslim blocking procedure. Go ahead. I'm all ears and have been since Trump announced the utterly stupid idea. According to who people's second choice was, Trump was up there, so I disagree that his numbers will go up less than his competitors, and if they will, it'll be by very small amounts. And think about how any nation has phased out a religion in the past. Don't encourage it, don't allow universities to provide funding the mosques, screen for immigrants, have higher qualifications for muslim immigrants to enter the country. It's not like Trump will load however many million people on a boat once he becomes president and ship them away lol. Do you just invent policies for Trump to have? Because his policy was clearly enumerated not to be any of those things. It was no non-citizen Muslims entering the country period and it had nothing to do with culture or rape. There's a reason it only came up after San Bernardino and ISIS became a thing...it's 100% fear of terrorists driven. The subject at hand is to decide whether or not the move to ban Muslisms from entering the USA will be beneficial to the USA or not. There definitely needs some form of cost benefit analysis. Right, just like the cost benefit analysis we should do to determine if torture is a good idea (despite the mountains of research and intelligence experience that says it's not).
Nobody talking about torture here. But we do have the fact that Muslism is on the top list of creating dangerous people.
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On March 16 2016 11:38 SolaR- wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 11:35 Doraemon wrote:On March 16 2016 11:32 SolaR- wrote:
Lol i love how liberalism turns on itself. They support feminism and LBGT rights, but at the same time won't condemn Islam. Islam and Islamic culture is the chief enemy of feminism and gay rights. But Trump is a terrible person because he makes an inapproiate joke what joke? they are his policies You mean the policy of having immigration rules and border control which pretty much any normal country has? No, lets just let a ton of people in who come from extremist countries who want to kill us, and have the ability to make fake passports and have no background
lol. what rules. barring all immigrants of a specific religion? name me another "normal country" that has implemented this
what border control? build a fcken wall? Are we back in ming dynasty china?
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