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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18857 Posts
March 16 2016 01:12 GMT
#66721
On March 16 2016 10:10 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2016 10:09 oneofthem wrote:
sanders getting rekt hard in ohio, will look at the county map.

Yeah, Bernie shit the bed hard in Ohio. His message should have done a lot better there.

Ohio has faired somewhat better than Michigan in terms of recovering from the 2008 recession, so it isn't altogether that surprising that Sanders is not performing as well there. That said, Sanders definitely didn't expect a loss this big.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 16 2016 01:12 GMT
#66722
On March 16 2016 10:07 ZeaL. wrote:
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On March 16 2016 10:01 frazzle wrote:
On March 16 2016 09:58 ZeaL. wrote:
On March 16 2016 09:51 TheFish7 wrote:
On March 16 2016 09:47 kwizach wrote:
I'm really happy for Hillary tonight thus far. If the results hold, I hope Sanders concedes. He was a welcome addition in the race, and I like that he pulled the Democrats to the left. His (mostly recent) attacks on Hillary based on the donations she's received from people working in the financial sector were disappointing, though. I still hope he and his supporters join and strongly support Hillary for the general election. The passion displayed by Sanders' supporters was great to see. Let's unite and work together to hand the GOP a resounding defeat in November


There isn't much chance from what I've seen that Hillary will capture much of that passion. I really fear for her in the general election if it's against Trump.


I'm not spiteful enough to not vote for her in the general and not young/unengaged enough to sit out because of apathy. However, I know many another Bernie supporters who are. I have doubts she will win this election given she is about as exciting as Gore and Kerry.

When she gets a chance to get in depth in policy I think she is really impressive. In a general vs Trump she'll never get the chance, but what he'll have to do (personal attacks) to avoid it would kill any other candidate. But maybe not Trump?


I'm going to have to disagree with that. Hillary's smart but watching her talk about policy is about as invigorating as doing dishes.


I think the reason here is that politics is dull and tedious. Hillary Clinton is probably the second best public speaker in US politics behind her husband.

As for those who make it more interesting, one of my favourite sayings is: for every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 16 2016 01:12 GMT
#66723
On March 16 2016 10:09 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2016 10:08 Nyxisto wrote:
On March 16 2016 10:07 xDaunt wrote:
On March 16 2016 10:06 Nyxisto wrote:
On March 16 2016 09:59 xDaunt wrote:
On March 16 2016 09:57 Doraemon wrote:
On March 16 2016 09:54 Liquid`Drone wrote:
On March 16 2016 09:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:


jesus, is that for real? That's absolutely terrible..


Murica?

You may want to take note of what our enlightened betters in Europe are doing.


Not discriminating people because of their religion?

To put it mildly, the German people seem to disagree with what Merkel has been doing.


Yes, because a good chunk of our population consists of asshats, at least we don't let the inmates run the asylum

And it seems like there are new popular majorities of these "asshats" springing up all around Europe.


i wouldnt say majority, more like a vocal minority rising to prominence. iirc a rightwing group in germany finally got like 10% or something.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 16 2016 01:14 GMT
#66724
if only it was 10%, they got up to 24% in certain states
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
March 16 2016 01:15 GMT
#66725
On March 16 2016 09:54 farvacola wrote:
Hillary beats Trump comfortably, so today's results are only mildly disappointing thus far from the perspective of a socialist Democrat


I wouldn't trust the polling. Trump is generating the most excitement and pulling huge crowds anywhere he goes.
Trump has Reagan'd you all and he'll win you all over yet.

Thank god America is going for the icon of Capitalism instead of the Communist Jew. Whew, Bernie pretended you could be Norway but was going to turn you into Brazil.
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On March 16 2016 10:01 On_Slaught wrote:
Religion tests! Yay! /s


All religions are shit. Islam just happens to be the most shit.

[image loading]
Islam does not assimilate into the western world even with all the liberal programming. Scratch the surface the ideologies, dig deep.
The richer more affluent users of 2nd and 3rd world countries assimilate better.

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Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
frazzle
Profile Joined June 2012
United States468 Posts
March 16 2016 01:17 GMT
#66726
On March 16 2016 10:07 ZeaL. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2016 10:01 frazzle wrote:
On March 16 2016 09:58 ZeaL. wrote:
On March 16 2016 09:51 TheFish7 wrote:
On March 16 2016 09:47 kwizach wrote:
I'm really happy for Hillary tonight thus far. If the results hold, I hope Sanders concedes. He was a welcome addition in the race, and I like that he pulled the Democrats to the left. His (mostly recent) attacks on Hillary based on the donations she's received from people working in the financial sector were disappointing, though. I still hope he and his supporters join and strongly support Hillary for the general election. The passion displayed by Sanders' supporters was great to see. Let's unite and work together to hand the GOP a resounding defeat in November


There isn't much chance from what I've seen that Hillary will capture much of that passion. I really fear for her in the general election if it's against Trump.


I'm not spiteful enough to not vote for her in the general and not young/unengaged enough to sit out because of apathy. However, I know many another Bernie supporters who are. I have doubts she will win this election given she is about as exciting as Gore and Kerry.

When she gets a chance to get in depth in policy I think she is really impressive. In a general vs Trump she'll never get the chance, but what he'll have to do (personal attacks) to avoid it would kill any other candidate. But maybe not Trump?


I'm going to have to disagree with that. Hillary's smart but watching her talk about policy is about as invigorating as doing dishes.

Watching anyone is relatively speaking. But when policy is the topic and sound bites don't cut it, she comes off better than any politician I've seen lately.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 16 2016 01:18 GMT
#66727
On March 16 2016 10:14 teddyoojo wrote:
if only it was 10%, they got up to 24% in certain states


(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 16 2016 01:19 GMT
#66728
still can't get over how sanders was completely self rekt in florida with the cuba thing.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 16 2016 01:19 GMT
#66729
On March 16 2016 10:08 Nyxisto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2016 10:07 xDaunt wrote:
On March 16 2016 10:06 Nyxisto wrote:
On March 16 2016 09:59 xDaunt wrote:
On March 16 2016 09:57 Doraemon wrote:
On March 16 2016 09:54 Liquid`Drone wrote:
On March 16 2016 09:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/709877575166902272


jesus, is that for real? That's absolutely terrible..


Murica?

You may want to take note of what our enlightened betters in Europe are doing.


Not discriminating people because of their religion?

To put it mildly, the German people seem to disagree with what Merkel has been doing.


Yes, because a good chunk of our population consists of asshats, at least we don't let the inmates run the asylum

Considering the number of rapists arrested and charged; sounds about right; cuz they can't be inmates if they aren't arrested.
liftlift > tsm
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
March 16 2016 01:20 GMT
#66730
On March 16 2016 10:09 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2016 10:08 Nyxisto wrote:
On March 16 2016 10:07 xDaunt wrote:
On March 16 2016 10:06 Nyxisto wrote:
On March 16 2016 09:59 xDaunt wrote:
On March 16 2016 09:57 Doraemon wrote:
On March 16 2016 09:54 Liquid`Drone wrote:
On March 16 2016 09:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/709877575166902272


jesus, is that for real? That's absolutely terrible..


Murica?

You may want to take note of what our enlightened betters in Europe are doing.


Not discriminating people because of their religion?

To put it mildly, the German people seem to disagree with what Merkel has been doing.


Yes, because a good chunk of our population consists of asshats, at least we don't let the inmates run the asylum

And it seems like there are new popular majorities of these "asshats" springing up all around Europe.


If you're committed to constitutional values I don't really think that matters. That's why you have a constitution in the first place
trulojucreathrma.com
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
United States327 Posts
March 16 2016 01:21 GMT
#66731
Well, we now know for sure. It was already clear when no good candidates emerged. But now we can look towards 8 years of Clinton, and a total consolidation of the 0.1%, or 8 years of Trump.

I mean, the only was this is not happening is if somehow Cruz wis anyway, and he is honestly crazy as opposed to Trump's fake crazy.

We are living in amazing times.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18857 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-16 01:23:19
March 16 2016 01:21 GMT
#66732
The Trump supporters on my Facebook are losing their mind in the face of Kasich winning Ohio. It's quite enjoyable to see
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-16 01:24:51
March 16 2016 01:23 GMT
#66733
On March 16 2016 10:21 trulojucreathrma.com wrote:
Well, we now know for sure. It was already clear when no good candidates emerged. But now we can look towards 8 years of Clinton, and a total consolidation of the 0.1%, or 8 years of Trump.

I mean, the only was this is not happening is if somehow Cruz wis anyway, and he is honestly crazy as opposed to Trump's fake crazy.

We are living in amazing times.

with respect to hillary and corporatism, i'll say this. she relies on left leaning mainstream economists, who were as a group more rightwing in the 90's than now. economics as a discipline is just improved with more focus on development dynamics, inequality and whatnot. it's fortunate that economists are respectful of empirical data and the models do have space to incorporate empirically observed concerns as they arise. so while it would probably be correct to criticize clinton administration for failing to address the downside of their liberalization policies, the 'establishment' is giving proper attention to the issue and there is really a path forward without need for radical revolution.

there is some on the left that think being involved in corporate issues is contamination but like it or not government has to foster a good business environment. it is important to distinguish between being pro-business as an interest group and pro-growth, which should involve vigorously enforcing anti-monopoly measures and really try to build a long term strategy for controlling global capital.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 16 2016 01:23 GMT
#66734
On March 16 2016 10:21 farvacola wrote:
The Trump supporters on my Facebook are losing their mind in the face of Katich winning Ohio. It's quite enjoyable to see

Ohio was a bit of a stretch.

I'll laugh so hard when Trump loses at convention; the drama will be delicious. Pretty much anything that happens regarding Trump will be hilarious; even 8 years of presidency.
liftlift > tsm
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
March 16 2016 01:23 GMT
#66735
GOP scares me at the moment in the sense that, although Trump is the current frontrunner, the convention could see delegates rallying behind Cruz.

I'm much more worried about Cruz than Trump.
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iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4413 Posts
March 16 2016 01:25 GMT
#66736
On March 16 2016 10:12 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2016 10:09 xDaunt wrote:
On March 16 2016 10:08 Nyxisto wrote:
On March 16 2016 10:07 xDaunt wrote:
On March 16 2016 10:06 Nyxisto wrote:
On March 16 2016 09:59 xDaunt wrote:
On March 16 2016 09:57 Doraemon wrote:
On March 16 2016 09:54 Liquid`Drone wrote:
On March 16 2016 09:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/709877575166902272


jesus, is that for real? That's absolutely terrible..


Murica?

You may want to take note of what our enlightened betters in Europe are doing.


Not discriminating people because of their religion?

To put it mildly, the German people seem to disagree with what Merkel has been doing.


Yes, because a good chunk of our population consists of asshats, at least we don't let the inmates run the asylum

And it seems like there are new popular majorities of these "asshats" springing up all around Europe.


i wouldnt say majority, more like a vocal minority rising to prominence. iirc a rightwing group in germany finally got like 10% or something.

Hardly surprising after the Cologne NYE fiasco.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
March 16 2016 01:25 GMT
#66737
On March 16 2016 10:15 SK.Testie wrote:

[image loading]
Islam does not assimilate into the western world even with all the liberal programming. Scratch the surface the ideologies, dig deep.
The richer more affluent users of 2nd and 3rd world countries assimilate better.


Better ban them all! After all they might blow themselves up! And some Europeans think the same way!

But only ban them temporarily, of course, while we develop our questionnaire to confirm the ones we let in aren't terrorists.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 16 2016 01:25 GMT
#66738
On March 16 2016 10:23 Souma wrote:
GOP scares me at the moment in the sense that, although Trump is the current frontrunner, the convention could see delegates rallying behind Cruz.

I'm much more worried about Cruz than Trump.


I'll eat my own hat if Cruz wins at the Convention.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18285 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-16 01:27:46
March 16 2016 01:27 GMT
#66739
On March 16 2016 10:23 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2016 10:21 farvacola wrote:
The Trump supporters on my Facebook are losing their mind in the face of Katich winning Ohio. It's quite enjoyable to see

Ohio was a bit of a stretch.

I'll laugh so hard when Trump loses at convention; the drama will be delicious. Pretty much anything that happens regarding Trump will be hilarious; even 8 years of presidency.


This is what scares me about Trump. It's that he is still seen as a joke. Like... the worst thing that can happen is that he is hilarious.

No, he's a moron. You don't want a moron in charge of the most powerful army in the world. That is not hilarious.

Oh, and @Souma: yeah, it's really scary how the GOP have the choice between a moron and a lunatic. But at least I'm confident the lunatic cannot win the general.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-16 01:27:26
March 16 2016 01:27 GMT
#66740
The polls are wrong...except when they have Trump winning, then they're right. You're drinking pretty deep of the kool-aid, Testie.
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