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On March 16 2016 10:40 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 10:38 strongwind wrote:
serious question: what happens if someone not named Trump is picked at the convention? Will there be riots in the streets? I seriously don't think Trump supporters would accept it lying down... The biggest problem is someone who didn't get earn the most delegates being picked at the convention.
Not if the leadership can cite that 50% of the party would be unsatisfied with him as the nominee but >50% would be satisfied with someone else. In fact that's happened at previous contested conventions.
It's not first past the plurality post, no matter how much Trump would whine about it. That's the point of the system.
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i don't think the gop establishment would throw out trump. they can deal with him he's a DEALMAKER
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On March 16 2016 09:59 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 09:57 Doraemon wrote:On March 16 2016 09:54 Liquid`Drone wrote:On March 16 2016 09:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
jesus, is that for real? That's absolutely terrible.. Murica? You may want to take note of what our enlightened betters in Europe are doing.
SOmeone is salty that his party is filled with xenophobes.
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On March 16 2016 10:44 oneofthem wrote:
i don't think the gop establishment would throw out trump. they can deal with him he's a DEALMAKER
Because he has words. You need 'em for deals.
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So how is this looking for Trump, is 4/5 states good or bad to be on course? I know he was hoping for Ohio,but he will still leave today with 690~ delegates out of his needed 1237.
Through a quick count on wikipedia, there are 912~ delegates left, and he will need 547 of those. Now roughly half of the states left have winner take all elections, so that would play in his favor. If he wins Cali he will need 375 out of 740.
What would you guys put as his odds to be able to get a majority, and how will things change with Rubio being out?
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Trump is making America great again at least.
The greatest meme.
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On March 16 2016 10:45 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 09:59 xDaunt wrote:On March 16 2016 09:57 Doraemon wrote:On March 16 2016 09:54 Liquid`Drone wrote:jesus, is that for real? That's absolutely terrible.. Murica? You may want to take note of what our enlightened betters in Europe are doing. SOmeone is salty that his party is filled with xenophobes.
Now, now. They're not all xenophobes. Some of them want to make Muslim-American citizens register at mosques or bar them from returning home as well.
On March 16 2016 10:47 FiWiFaKi wrote:
So how is this looking for Trump, is 4/5 states good or bad to be on course? I know he was hoping for Ohio,but he will still leave today with 690~ delegates out of his needed 1237.
Through a quick count on wikipedia, there are 912~ delegates left, and he will need 547 of those. Now roughly half of the states left have winner take all elections, so that would play in his favor. If he wins Cali he will need 375 out of 740.
What would you guys put as his odds to be able to get a majority, and how will things change with Rubio being out?
All debates on how wonky Missouri and Illinois math shakes out. He was held in NC so it will need to be good for him.
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On March 16 2016 10:39 m4ini wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 10:36 Doodsmack wrote:On March 16 2016 10:29 SK.Testie wrote:On March 16 2016 10:25 Doodsmack wrote:On March 16 2016 10:15 SK.Testie wrote:
Islam does not assimilate into the western world even with all the liberal programming. Scratch the surface the ideologies, dig deep.
The richer more affluent users of 2nd and 3rd world countries assimilate better. Better ban them all! After all they might blow themselves up! And some Europeans think the same way! But only ban them temporarily, of course, while we develop our questionnaire to confirm the ones we let in aren't terrorists. Europe didn't think the same way. Then Cologne happened. Then they had daily rapes, crimes, and no arrests + multiple cover-ups by police so as to not fan the flames of racism. They were promised doctors and engineers, and got illiterate people who couldn't speak their language. Of course they'd be upset. Basically, they lived in a society of lies. Which gets insanely frustrating when your children are getting raped by foreign invaders. Just insane rampant increases in crime, and so much of it is not reported because the police are understaffed or have given up on some areas. Man, what an asshat this guy must be. I'll take your word for it that in the absence of reporting, there actually is insane rampant crime everywhere. And that as a result, we should ban all 1.4 billion Muslims, because you know, good ideas and all. He's right and wrong. The first studies (didn't bother to look at more after that) specifically on crimes related to refugees showed crimerates (for crimes like stealing, mugging and break ins) roughly tripled around refugee camps. So he's not entirely wrong, even if he makes it sound like anarchy is ruling in germany.
The real reason for the populace outrage though ... well other than of course the natural outrage to crime. But the fuel being constantly poured on top is because it's still under reported and the people know it. Sweden just had a massive scandal of covering it up. All the countries are trying to cover it up to promote peace and harmony. It's a good ideal, but imo, it's incredibly naive. A persons ideology is a pretty important aspect of them. And whether that ideology is malleable and evolving or not.
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Sanders attacking Hillary directly. Disappointing that he's decided to help the GOP.
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On March 16 2016 10:46 m4ini wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 10:44 oneofthem wrote:
i don't think the gop establishment would throw out trump. they can deal with him he's a DEALMAKER Because he has THE BEST words. You need 'em for deals.
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On March 16 2016 10:38 strongwind wrote:
serious question: what happens if someone not named Trump is picked at the convention? Will there be riots in the streets? I seriously don't think Trump supporters would accept it lying down...
Probably widespread rage, possibly a third party run, possibly further fracturing of the R party. Seems like a no-win situation for the GOP.
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On March 16 2016 10:47 FiWiFaKi wrote:
So how is this looking for Trump, is 4/5 states good or bad to be on course? I know he was hoping for Ohio,but he will still leave today with 690~ delegates out of his needed 1237.
Through a quick count on wikipedia, there are 912~ delegates left, and he will need 547 of those. Now roughly half of the states left have winner take all elections, so that would play in his favor. If he wins Cali he will need 375 out of 740.
What would you guys put as his odds to be able to get a majority, and how will things change with Rubio being out?
Trump will probably finish within 100 delegates of a majority, which will be enough to get the nomination at a brokered convention.
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On March 16 2016 10:44 oneofthem wrote:
i don't think the gop establishment would throw out trump. they can deal with him he's a DEALMAKER
He wrote the art of the deal, he's leading the polls, endorsed by Sheriff Joe, speaks his mind, hates the media, hell are there any reasons NOT to vote for him?
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On March 16 2016 10:47 SK.Testie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 10:39 m4ini wrote:On March 16 2016 10:36 Doodsmack wrote:On March 16 2016 10:29 SK.Testie wrote:On March 16 2016 10:25 Doodsmack wrote:On March 16 2016 10:15 SK.Testie wrote:
Islam does not assimilate into the western world even with all the liberal programming. Scratch the surface the ideologies, dig deep.
The richer more affluent users of 2nd and 3rd world countries assimilate better. Better ban them all! After all they might blow themselves up! And some Europeans think the same way! But only ban them temporarily, of course, while we develop our questionnaire to confirm the ones we let in aren't terrorists. Europe didn't think the same way. Then Cologne happened. Then they had daily rapes, crimes, and no arrests + multiple cover-ups by police so as to not fan the flames of racism. They were promised doctors and engineers, and got illiterate people who couldn't speak their language. Of course they'd be upset. Basically, they lived in a society of lies. Which gets insanely frustrating when your children are getting raped by foreign invaders. Just insane rampant increases in crime, and so much of it is not reported because the police are understaffed or have given up on some areas. Man, what an asshat this guy must be. I'll take your word for it that in the absence of reporting, there actually is insane rampant crime everywhere. And that as a result, we should ban all 1.4 billion Muslims, because you know, good ideas and all. He's right and wrong. The first studies (didn't bother to look at more after that) specifically on crimes related to refugees showed crimerates (for crimes like stealing, mugging and break ins) roughly tripled around refugee camps. So he's not entirely wrong, even if he makes it sound like anarchy is ruling in germany. The real reason for the populace outrage though ... well other than of course the natural outrage to crime. But the fuel being constantly poured on top is because it's still under reported and the people know it. Sweden just had a massive scandal of covering it up. All the countries are trying to cover it up to promote peace and harmony. It's a good ideal, but imo, it's incredibly naive. A persons ideology is a pretty important aspect of them. And whether that ideology is malleable and evolving or not.
No disagreement there, just look at Nyxisto. People like him are the reason why there was an upset with the AfD - politicians ignore legitimate concerns, or play them down - so people went to the other extreme. I'm not saying that the AfD is a good thing, it isn't at all. But i can understand every person who voted for them out of protest of how the german government (amongst others, like the president of police etc) handled the whole crisis.
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On March 16 2016 10:42 TheTenthDoc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 10:40 oBlade wrote:On March 16 2016 10:38 strongwind wrote:
serious question: what happens if someone not named Trump is picked at the convention? Will there be riots in the streets? I seriously don't think Trump supporters would accept it lying down... The biggest problem is someone who didn't get earn the most delegates being picked at the convention. Not if the leadership can cite that 50% of the party would be unsatisfied with him as the nominee but >50% would be satisfied with someone else. In fact that's happened at previous contested conventions. It's not first past the plurality post, no matter how much Trump would whine about it. That's the point of the system.
This was a question on one of the recent debate stages. All four candidates basically agreed they thought the guy with a plurality should get it.
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On March 16 2016 10:47 TheTenthDoc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 10:45 Plansix wrote:On March 16 2016 09:59 xDaunt wrote:On March 16 2016 09:57 Doraemon wrote:On March 16 2016 09:54 Liquid`Drone wrote:jesus, is that for real? That's absolutely terrible.. Murica? You may want to take note of what our enlightened betters in Europe are doing. SOmeone is salty that his party is filled with xenophobes. Now, now. They're not all xenophobes. Some of them want to make Muslim-American citizens register at mosques or bar them from returning home as well.
Its is because Islam and freedom cannot co-exist. It is literally impossible and we have to accept this. Only Immortan Trump can show us the way. But do not become addicted to freedom. America cannot become great on the backs of addicts.
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On March 16 2016 10:49 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 10:44 oneofthem wrote:
i don't think the gop establishment would throw out trump. they can deal with him he's a DEALMAKER He wrote the art of the deal, he's leading the polls, endorsed by Sheriff Joe, speaks his mind, hates the media, hell are there any reasons NOT to vote for him?
It's great that fair weather fans have now made their presence felt in the democratic process by listing the fact that a candidate is leading as reason to vote for him
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Just FYI Bernie is still going in on Hillary, so I wouldn't count on him turning away from going after her during her likely upcoming losing streak.
Time to see if her "inevitability" and success thus far is/was enough to turn the tide or if she'll have to fight upstream against 6-8 Sanders wins in a row having Trump and Sanders with her in their cross hairs.
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On March 16 2016 10:49 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2016 10:47 FiWiFaKi wrote:
So how is this looking for Trump, is 4/5 states good or bad to be on course? I know he was hoping for Ohio,but he will still leave today with 690~ delegates out of his needed 1237.
Through a quick count on wikipedia, there are 912~ delegates left, and he will need 547 of those. Now roughly half of the states left have winner take all elections, so that would play in his favor. If he wins Cali he will need 375 out of 740.
What would you guys put as his odds to be able to get a majority, and how will things change with Rubio being out? Trump will probably finish within 100 delegates of a majority, which will be enough to get the nomination at a brokered convention.
I have no idea what the process works, but what percentage chance would you give Trump if he had 1150~ delegates to being nominated?
I mean they can't realistically choose Kasich when he will have like 200 seats, or someone like Romney instead, can they?
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On March 16 2016 10:48 kwizach wrote:
Sanders attacking Hillary directly. Disappointing that he's decided to help the GOP.
lol and people got mad when i said he's a true believer with no strategic sense
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