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Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz has proposed one of the most radical overhauls of the tax code of any of the White House contenders, a new report shows, one that would balloon the debt while overwhelmingly favoring the rich.
The Tax Policy Center said Tuesday that his plan would add at least $8.6 trillion to the debt over the next decade, and perhaps as much as $10 trillion once additional interest payments are included.
The wealthy would be the biggest winners, according to the group’s analysis, with the top 1 percent getting an average tax cut of $400,000. Those at the bottom of the income ladder would get a tax cut of just $46 in 2017, the analysis said, and by 2025 would actually see their taxes go up.
The hit to the budget is in the ballpark of what other Republican candidates have proposed, and would come at a time when the outlook for the government’s finances is already dire. The government will rack up some $9 trillion in additional debt over the next decade, the Congressional Budget Office said last month, and will routinely run trillion-dollar deficits by 2022.
Cruz's plan would go further than others toward simplifying the tax code, reducing the number of people who itemize their taxes by 96 percent.
And while Cruz has adamantly denied his plan would amount to creating a value-added tax on businesses — something that is anathema to many conservatives — the analysis said his plan would do just that.
“The plan is a major tax reform — it would represent a fundamental change in the way we tax people and businesses,” said Len Burman, head of the Tax Policy Center. "It would be much simpler than current law, and the proposals we've analyzed, but also very regressive."
The group, which has analyzed four of the Republican presidential candidates’ plans, said last week that Marco Rubio’s plan would add at least $6.8 trillion to the debt. It's working on analyses of Democratic presidential candidates Hillary Clinton's and Bernie Sanders's tax plans.
On February 17 2016 11:01 GreenHorizons wrote: [quote]
Well it's been somewhat demonstrated that some of the most emboldened anti-gay folks are closeted so it's not that absurd, but it was a joke about the conspiracy Trump was floating about him being murdered. I suppose you would have the same critique for Republicans pushing the "Obama had him killed" crap. That they do in fact hate him beyond reason?
Conspiracy theories circulated among admirers or supporters is understandable. Not so much among haters. And saying he could be a closet homosexual is like saying he hates abortion because he had one once and regrets it. There is no reason to think so.
Edit: the point of the example is that I don't see any reason to think that was the case. It's some sort of strange fantasy from people who hate him. I think hating abortion after having one is actually quite legitimate.
So basically you're suggesting that speculating if Obama had Scalia murdered is understandable. Understandable as in they hate Obama beyond reason or...?
I find it hilariously sad that it's easy for folks to turn jokes around Scalia as hate but people being murdered/poisoned/violated/and discriminated against is a bridge to far.
The "anti-PC" crowd sure does get sensitive when the shoe's on the other foot.
uh, what does PC have to do with anything I said?
I would like to think that a little bit of brain power would help, but I shall provide it.
When someone people respect dies, it seems normal that some of their admirers come up with all sorts of theories. It has nothing to do with Obama or whoever else happens to be president.
And you don't think that people can use parody to point out the ridiculousness of people without hating the topical component of it?
I'd save your brain power for figuring out how to beat Trump unless you've already given up on this election?
What are you talking about? Are you going to try and cover with "I was just joking" again? lol
I said "my conspiracy money" that should have been your first clue.
But how about beating Trump or have you given up on the election?
So are you recycling, long, not funny jokes? Cause you had like two paragraphs in defense of such a view the other day.
The fact that you think that some people are conspiratorial because they especially hate Obama is funny, though. I'll give you that.
Conspiratorial no, specifically believing it's Obama and it being such a large portion of the Republican party is a special kind of hate " beyond reason" though I'm sure plenty of it could be blamed just on Obama's political standing.
Your silence on the Trump part says more than your comments on my lol's though.
You should know by now that I do my best to avoid your non-sequiturs.
MmmHmm. You come in to snipe at something irrelevant and then disappear back into the ether
On February 17 2016 11:08 Introvert wrote: [quote]
Conspiracy theories circulated among admirers or supporters is understandable. Not so much among haters. And saying he could be a closet homosexual is like saying he hates abortion because he had one once and regrets it. There is no reason to think so.
Edit: the point of the example is that I don't see any reason to think that was the case. It's some sort of strange fantasy from people who hate him. I think hating abortion after having one is actually quite legitimate.
So basically you're suggesting that speculating if Obama had Scalia murdered is understandable. Understandable as in they hate Obama beyond reason or...?
I find it hilariously sad that it's easy for folks to turn jokes around Scalia as hate but people being murdered/poisoned/violated/and discriminated against is a bridge to far.
The "anti-PC" crowd sure does get sensitive when the shoe's on the other foot.
uh, what does PC have to do with anything I said?
I would like to think that a little bit of brain power would help, but I shall provide it.
When someone people respect dies, it seems normal that some of their admirers come up with all sorts of theories. It has nothing to do with Obama or whoever else happens to be president.
And you don't think that people can use parody to point out the ridiculousness of people without hating the topical component of it?
I'd save your brain power for figuring out how to beat Trump unless you've already given up on this election?
What are you talking about? Are you going to try and cover with "I was just joking" again? lol
I said "my conspiracy money" that should have been your first clue.
But how about beating Trump or have you given up on the election?
So are you recycling, long, not funny jokes? Cause you had like two paragraphs in defense of such a view the other day.
The fact that you think that some people are conspiratorial because they especially hate Obama is funny, though. I'll give you that.
Conspiratorial no, specifically believing it's Obama and it being such a large portion of the Republican party is a special kind of hate " beyond reason" though I'm sure plenty of it could be blamed just on Obama's political standing.
Your silence on the Trump part says more than your comments on my lol's though.
You should know by now that I do my best to avoid your non-sequiturs.
MmmHmm. You come in to snipe at something irrelevant and then disappear back into the ether
It was a one line response to a one line comment. It would barely have existed before returning the nether realm.
On February 17 2016 11:39 GreenHorizons wrote: [quote]
So basically you're suggesting that speculating if Obama had Scalia murdered is understandable. Understandable as in they hate Obama beyond reason or...?
I find it hilariously sad that it's easy for folks to turn jokes around Scalia as hate but people being murdered/poisoned/violated/and discriminated against is a bridge to far.
The "anti-PC" crowd sure does get sensitive when the shoe's on the other foot.
uh, what does PC have to do with anything I said?
I would like to think that a little bit of brain power would help, but I shall provide it.
When someone people respect dies, it seems normal that some of their admirers come up with all sorts of theories. It has nothing to do with Obama or whoever else happens to be president.
And you don't think that people can use parody to point out the ridiculousness of people without hating the topical component of it?
I'd save your brain power for figuring out how to beat Trump unless you've already given up on this election?
What are you talking about? Are you going to try and cover with "I was just joking" again? lol
I said "my conspiracy money" that should have been your first clue.
But how about beating Trump or have you given up on the election?
So are you recycling, long, not funny jokes? Cause you had like two paragraphs in defense of such a view the other day.
The fact that you think that some people are conspiratorial because they especially hate Obama is funny, though. I'll give you that.
Conspiratorial no, specifically believing it's Obama and it being such a large portion of the Republican party is a special kind of hate " beyond reason" though I'm sure plenty of it could be blamed just on Obama's political standing.
Your silence on the Trump part says more than your comments on my lol's though.
You should know by now that I do my best to avoid your non-sequiturs.
MmmHmm. You come in to snipe at something irrelevant and then disappear back into the ether
It was a one line response to a one line comment. It would barely have existed before returning the nether realm.
Exactly, and you engage in post after post after getting on your high horse as not to muddy your boots discussing anything that would have you actually engage in the substance.
Your opinions on my humor are not as interesting as your perspective on the election. Based on your initial skepticism of Trump I would presume you aren't supporting him, with his victory looking all but inevitable, it's reasonable to ask whether you've jumped on board or if you've just given up on the election and will claim Trump doesn't represent the party after he gets the most votes.
But I suspect you'll still hide behind really only wanting to repeatedly post about my joke.
On February 17 2016 11:44 Introvert wrote: [quote]
uh, what does PC have to do with anything I said?
I would like to think that a little bit of brain power would help, but I shall provide it.
When someone people respect dies, it seems normal that some of their admirers come up with all sorts of theories. It has nothing to do with Obama or whoever else happens to be president.
And you don't think that people can use parody to point out the ridiculousness of people without hating the topical component of it?
I'd save your brain power for figuring out how to beat Trump unless you've already given up on this election?
What are you talking about? Are you going to try and cover with "I was just joking" again? lol
I said "my conspiracy money" that should have been your first clue.
But how about beating Trump or have you given up on the election?
So are you recycling, long, not funny jokes? Cause you had like two paragraphs in defense of such a view the other day.
The fact that you think that some people are conspiratorial because they especially hate Obama is funny, though. I'll give you that.
Conspiratorial no, specifically believing it's Obama and it being such a large portion of the Republican party is a special kind of hate " beyond reason" though I'm sure plenty of it could be blamed just on Obama's political standing.
Your silence on the Trump part says more than your comments on my lol's though.
You should know by now that I do my best to avoid your non-sequiturs.
MmmHmm. You come in to snipe at something irrelevant and then disappear back into the ether
It was a one line response to a one line comment. It would barely have existed before returning the nether realm.
Exactly, and you engage in post after post after getting on your high horse as not to muddy your boots discussing anything that would have you actually engage in the substance.
Your opinions on my humor are not as interesting as your perspective on the election. Based on your initial skepticism of Trump I would presume you aren't supporting him, with his victory looking all but inevitable, it's reasonable to ask whether you've jumped on board or if you've just given up on the election and will claim Trump doesn't represent the party after he gets the most votes.
But I suspect you'll still hide behind really only wanting to repeatedly post about my joke.
How am I hiding when I'm the only one still on topic? You mentioned Trump. I don't get your logic.
I'm no longer predicting Trump. It would appear that after so many years of ineffective leaders, people would rather have a strong man type than one who shares their principles. I'm not sure how his victory is inevitable, or how he is running away. Fully 2/3rd of GOP primary voters want someone else. Unfortunately, things are too split. If either Rubio or Cruz were to drop out today, I have a feeling Trump would no longer be leading after SC.
I'm a rather pessimistic person, but I haven't written it off. I rarely make predictions, and after trying once with Trump it's a reminder to not do so again.
On February 17 2016 11:51 GreenHorizons wrote: [quote] And you don't think that people can use parody to point out the ridiculousness of people without hating the topical component of it?
I'd save your brain power for figuring out how to beat Trump unless you've already given up on this election?
What are you talking about? Are you going to try and cover with "I was just joking" again? lol
I said "my conspiracy money" that should have been your first clue.
But how about beating Trump or have you given up on the election?
So are you recycling, long, not funny jokes? Cause you had like two paragraphs in defense of such a view the other day.
The fact that you think that some people are conspiratorial because they especially hate Obama is funny, though. I'll give you that.
Conspiratorial no, specifically believing it's Obama and it being such a large portion of the Republican party is a special kind of hate " beyond reason" though I'm sure plenty of it could be blamed just on Obama's political standing.
Your silence on the Trump part says more than your comments on my lol's though.
You should know by now that I do my best to avoid your non-sequiturs.
MmmHmm. You come in to snipe at something irrelevant and then disappear back into the ether
It was a one line response to a one line comment. It would barely have existed before returning the nether realm.
Exactly, and you engage in post after post after getting on your high horse as not to muddy your boots discussing anything that would have you actually engage in the substance.
Your opinions on my humor are not as interesting as your perspective on the election. Based on your initial skepticism of Trump I would presume you aren't supporting him, with his victory looking all but inevitable, it's reasonable to ask whether you've jumped on board or if you've just given up on the election and will claim Trump doesn't represent the party after he gets the most votes.
But I suspect you'll still hide behind really only wanting to repeatedly post about my joke.
How am I hiding when I'm the only one still on topic? You mentioned Trump. I don't get your logic.
I'm no longer predicting Trump. It would appear that after so many years of ineffective leaders, people would rather have a strong man type than one who shares their principles. I'm not sure how his victory is inevitable, or how he is running away. Fully 2/3rd of GOP primary voters want someone else. Unfortunately, things are too split. If either Rubio or Cruz were to drop out today, I have a feeling Trump would no longer be leading after SC.
I'm a rather pessimistic person, but I haven't written it off. I rarely make predictions, and after trying once with Trump it's a reminder to not do so again.
Honestly Rubio have no chance in this.
Everything about that guy is scripted.
So even if Cruz + Rubio in votes for whichever party combine, there will be people from both parties willing to go to Trump.
On February 17 2016 11:51 GreenHorizons wrote: [quote] And you don't think that people can use parody to point out the ridiculousness of people without hating the topical component of it?
I'd save your brain power for figuring out how to beat Trump unless you've already given up on this election?
What are you talking about? Are you going to try and cover with "I was just joking" again? lol
I said "my conspiracy money" that should have been your first clue.
But how about beating Trump or have you given up on the election?
So are you recycling, long, not funny jokes? Cause you had like two paragraphs in defense of such a view the other day.
The fact that you think that some people are conspiratorial because they especially hate Obama is funny, though. I'll give you that.
Conspiratorial no, specifically believing it's Obama and it being such a large portion of the Republican party is a special kind of hate " beyond reason" though I'm sure plenty of it could be blamed just on Obama's political standing.
Your silence on the Trump part says more than your comments on my lol's though.
You should know by now that I do my best to avoid your non-sequiturs.
MmmHmm. You come in to snipe at something irrelevant and then disappear back into the ether
It was a one line response to a one line comment. It would barely have existed before returning the nether realm.
Exactly, and you engage in post after post after getting on your high horse as not to muddy your boots discussing anything that would have you actually engage in the substance.
Your opinions on my humor are not as interesting as your perspective on the election. Based on your initial skepticism of Trump I would presume you aren't supporting him, with his victory looking all but inevitable, it's reasonable to ask whether you've jumped on board or if you've just given up on the election and will claim Trump doesn't represent the party after he gets the most votes.
But I suspect you'll still hide behind really only wanting to repeatedly post about my joke.
How am I hiding when I'm the only one still on topic? You mentioned Trump. I don't get your logic.
I'm no longer predicting Trump. It would appear that after so many years of ineffective leaders, people would rather have a strong man type than one who shares their principles. I'm not sure how his victory is inevitable, or how he is running away. Fully 2/3rd of GOP primary voters want someone else. Unfortunately, things are too split. If either Rubio or Cruz were to drop out today, I have a feeling Trump would no longer be leading after SC.
I'm a rather pessimistic person, but I haven't written it off. I rarely make predictions, and after trying once with Trump it's a reminder to not do so again.
Do you have a candidate you are supporting other than Trump or are you just a spectator?
On February 17 2016 12:24 Jibba wrote: In case anyone's wondering, Samantha Bee's new show on TBS is really good. Probably #2 among late night shows behind John Oliver.
If Oliver's is the new Daily Show, Bee's is the new Colbert Report.
Sentient Caps Lock Button might be the best thing i've heard this year. Seems actually really good, usually i for some reason dislike female comedians, but she made me laugh.
On February 17 2016 12:05 Introvert wrote: [quote]
What are you talking about? Are you going to try and cover with "I was just joking" again? lol
I said "my conspiracy money" that should have been your first clue.
But how about beating Trump or have you given up on the election?
So are you recycling, long, not funny jokes? Cause you had like two paragraphs in defense of such a view the other day.
The fact that you think that some people are conspiratorial because they especially hate Obama is funny, though. I'll give you that.
Conspiratorial no, specifically believing it's Obama and it being such a large portion of the Republican party is a special kind of hate " beyond reason" though I'm sure plenty of it could be blamed just on Obama's political standing.
Your silence on the Trump part says more than your comments on my lol's though.
You should know by now that I do my best to avoid your non-sequiturs.
MmmHmm. You come in to snipe at something irrelevant and then disappear back into the ether
It was a one line response to a one line comment. It would barely have existed before returning the nether realm.
Exactly, and you engage in post after post after getting on your high horse as not to muddy your boots discussing anything that would have you actually engage in the substance.
Your opinions on my humor are not as interesting as your perspective on the election. Based on your initial skepticism of Trump I would presume you aren't supporting him, with his victory looking all but inevitable, it's reasonable to ask whether you've jumped on board or if you've just given up on the election and will claim Trump doesn't represent the party after he gets the most votes.
But I suspect you'll still hide behind really only wanting to repeatedly post about my joke.
How am I hiding when I'm the only one still on topic? You mentioned Trump. I don't get your logic.
I'm no longer predicting Trump. It would appear that after so many years of ineffective leaders, people would rather have a strong man type than one who shares their principles. I'm not sure how his victory is inevitable, or how he is running away. Fully 2/3rd of GOP primary voters want someone else. Unfortunately, things are too split. If either Rubio or Cruz were to drop out today, I have a feeling Trump would no longer be leading after SC.
I'm a rather pessimistic person, but I haven't written it off. I rarely make predictions, and after trying once with Trump it's a reminder to not do so again.
Do you have a candidate you are supporting other than Trump or are you just a spectator?
I have my favorites. All I will say is that I like the actual conservatives, not the fake ones.
On February 17 2016 12:08 GreenHorizons wrote: [quote]
I said "my conspiracy money" that should have been your first clue.
But how about beating Trump or have you given up on the election?
So are you recycling, long, not funny jokes? Cause you had like two paragraphs in defense of such a view the other day.
The fact that you think that some people are conspiratorial because they especially hate Obama is funny, though. I'll give you that.
Conspiratorial no, specifically believing it's Obama and it being such a large portion of the Republican party is a special kind of hate " beyond reason" though I'm sure plenty of it could be blamed just on Obama's political standing.
Your silence on the Trump part says more than your comments on my lol's though.
You should know by now that I do my best to avoid your non-sequiturs.
MmmHmm. You come in to snipe at something irrelevant and then disappear back into the ether
It was a one line response to a one line comment. It would barely have existed before returning the nether realm.
Exactly, and you engage in post after post after getting on your high horse as not to muddy your boots discussing anything that would have you actually engage in the substance.
Your opinions on my humor are not as interesting as your perspective on the election. Based on your initial skepticism of Trump I would presume you aren't supporting him, with his victory looking all but inevitable, it's reasonable to ask whether you've jumped on board or if you've just given up on the election and will claim Trump doesn't represent the party after he gets the most votes.
But I suspect you'll still hide behind really only wanting to repeatedly post about my joke.
How am I hiding when I'm the only one still on topic? You mentioned Trump. I don't get your logic.
I'm no longer predicting Trump. It would appear that after so many years of ineffective leaders, people would rather have a strong man type than one who shares their principles. I'm not sure how his victory is inevitable, or how he is running away. Fully 2/3rd of GOP primary voters want someone else. Unfortunately, things are too split. If either Rubio or Cruz were to drop out today, I have a feeling Trump would no longer be leading after SC.
I'm a rather pessimistic person, but I haven't written it off. I rarely make predictions, and after trying once with Trump it's a reminder to not do so again.
Do you have a candidate you are supporting other than Trump or are you just a spectator?
I have my favorites. All I say is I like the actual conservatives, not the fake ones.
So just a spectator then? I know Cruz is supposed to be a conservative, but who else is? Carson?
On February 17 2016 12:15 Introvert wrote: [quote]
So are you recycling, long, not funny jokes? Cause you had like two paragraphs in defense of such a view the other day.
The fact that you think that some people are conspiratorial because they especially hate Obama is funny, though. I'll give you that.
Conspiratorial no, specifically believing it's Obama and it being such a large portion of the Republican party is a special kind of hate " beyond reason" though I'm sure plenty of it could be blamed just on Obama's political standing.
Your silence on the Trump part says more than your comments on my lol's though.
You should know by now that I do my best to avoid your non-sequiturs.
MmmHmm. You come in to snipe at something irrelevant and then disappear back into the ether
It was a one line response to a one line comment. It would barely have existed before returning the nether realm.
Exactly, and you engage in post after post after getting on your high horse as not to muddy your boots discussing anything that would have you actually engage in the substance.
Your opinions on my humor are not as interesting as your perspective on the election. Based on your initial skepticism of Trump I would presume you aren't supporting him, with his victory looking all but inevitable, it's reasonable to ask whether you've jumped on board or if you've just given up on the election and will claim Trump doesn't represent the party after he gets the most votes.
But I suspect you'll still hide behind really only wanting to repeatedly post about my joke.
How am I hiding when I'm the only one still on topic? You mentioned Trump. I don't get your logic.
I'm no longer predicting Trump. It would appear that after so many years of ineffective leaders, people would rather have a strong man type than one who shares their principles. I'm not sure how his victory is inevitable, or how he is running away. Fully 2/3rd of GOP primary voters want someone else. Unfortunately, things are too split. If either Rubio or Cruz were to drop out today, I have a feeling Trump would no longer be leading after SC.
I'm a rather pessimistic person, but I haven't written it off. I rarely make predictions, and after trying once with Trump it's a reminder to not do so again.
Do you have a candidate you are supporting other than Trump or are you just a spectator?
I have my favorites. All I say is I like the actual conservatives, not the fake ones.
So just a spectator then?
He actually needs to explain what "actual conservatives" mean to him.
On February 17 2016 12:15 Introvert wrote: [quote]
So are you recycling, long, not funny jokes? Cause you had like two paragraphs in defense of such a view the other day.
The fact that you think that some people are conspiratorial because they especially hate Obama is funny, though. I'll give you that.
Conspiratorial no, specifically believing it's Obama and it being such a large portion of the Republican party is a special kind of hate " beyond reason" though I'm sure plenty of it could be blamed just on Obama's political standing.
Your silence on the Trump part says more than your comments on my lol's though.
You should know by now that I do my best to avoid your non-sequiturs.
MmmHmm. You come in to snipe at something irrelevant and then disappear back into the ether
It was a one line response to a one line comment. It would barely have existed before returning the nether realm.
Exactly, and you engage in post after post after getting on your high horse as not to muddy your boots discussing anything that would have you actually engage in the substance.
Your opinions on my humor are not as interesting as your perspective on the election. Based on your initial skepticism of Trump I would presume you aren't supporting him, with his victory looking all but inevitable, it's reasonable to ask whether you've jumped on board or if you've just given up on the election and will claim Trump doesn't represent the party after he gets the most votes.
But I suspect you'll still hide behind really only wanting to repeatedly post about my joke.
How am I hiding when I'm the only one still on topic? You mentioned Trump. I don't get your logic.
I'm no longer predicting Trump. It would appear that after so many years of ineffective leaders, people would rather have a strong man type than one who shares their principles. I'm not sure how his victory is inevitable, or how he is running away. Fully 2/3rd of GOP primary voters want someone else. Unfortunately, things are too split. If either Rubio or Cruz were to drop out today, I have a feeling Trump would no longer be leading after SC.
I'm a rather pessimistic person, but I haven't written it off. I rarely make predictions, and after trying once with Trump it's a reminder to not do so again.
Do you have a candidate you are supporting other than Trump or are you just a spectator?
I have my favorites. All I say is I like the actual conservatives, not the fake ones.
So just a spectator then?
Are you asking if I campaign for people?
Edit: explaining who is and who is not would require quite about of exposition about what I think conservatism is.
Cruz is, Marco is, Carson is (though I've never been a fan of his). Most of the remaining candidates are, too varying degrees. Except for Trump. I have a hard time finding something that I believe he is actually a conservative about.
On February 17 2016 12:18 GreenHorizons wrote: [quote]
Conspiratorial no, specifically believing it's Obama and it being such a large portion of the Republican party is a special kind of hate " beyond reason" though I'm sure plenty of it could be blamed just on Obama's political standing.
Your silence on the Trump part says more than your comments on my lol's though.
You should know by now that I do my best to avoid your non-sequiturs.
MmmHmm. You come in to snipe at something irrelevant and then disappear back into the ether
It was a one line response to a one line comment. It would barely have existed before returning the nether realm.
Exactly, and you engage in post after post after getting on your high horse as not to muddy your boots discussing anything that would have you actually engage in the substance.
Your opinions on my humor are not as interesting as your perspective on the election. Based on your initial skepticism of Trump I would presume you aren't supporting him, with his victory looking all but inevitable, it's reasonable to ask whether you've jumped on board or if you've just given up on the election and will claim Trump doesn't represent the party after he gets the most votes.
But I suspect you'll still hide behind really only wanting to repeatedly post about my joke.
How am I hiding when I'm the only one still on topic? You mentioned Trump. I don't get your logic.
I'm no longer predicting Trump. It would appear that after so many years of ineffective leaders, people would rather have a strong man type than one who shares their principles. I'm not sure how his victory is inevitable, or how he is running away. Fully 2/3rd of GOP primary voters want someone else. Unfortunately, things are too split. If either Rubio or Cruz were to drop out today, I have a feeling Trump would no longer be leading after SC.
I'm a rather pessimistic person, but I haven't written it off. I rarely make predictions, and after trying once with Trump it's a reminder to not do so again.
Do you have a candidate you are supporting other than Trump or are you just a spectator?
I have my favorites. All I say is I like the actual conservatives, not the fake ones.
So just a spectator then?
Are you asking if I campaign for people?
Whether you actually engage in supporting a candidate in the nomination process or just bitch and whine when they don't win, is what I'm asking.
On February 17 2016 12:19 Introvert wrote: [quote]
You should know by now that I do my best to avoid your non-sequiturs.
MmmHmm. You come in to snipe at something irrelevant and then disappear back into the ether
It was a one line response to a one line comment. It would barely have existed before returning the nether realm.
Exactly, and you engage in post after post after getting on your high horse as not to muddy your boots discussing anything that would have you actually engage in the substance.
Your opinions on my humor are not as interesting as your perspective on the election. Based on your initial skepticism of Trump I would presume you aren't supporting him, with his victory looking all but inevitable, it's reasonable to ask whether you've jumped on board or if you've just given up on the election and will claim Trump doesn't represent the party after he gets the most votes.
But I suspect you'll still hide behind really only wanting to repeatedly post about my joke.
How am I hiding when I'm the only one still on topic? You mentioned Trump. I don't get your logic.
I'm no longer predicting Trump. It would appear that after so many years of ineffective leaders, people would rather have a strong man type than one who shares their principles. I'm not sure how his victory is inevitable, or how he is running away. Fully 2/3rd of GOP primary voters want someone else. Unfortunately, things are too split. If either Rubio or Cruz were to drop out today, I have a feeling Trump would no longer be leading after SC.
I'm a rather pessimistic person, but I haven't written it off. I rarely make predictions, and after trying once with Trump it's a reminder to not do so again.
Do you have a candidate you are supporting other than Trump or are you just a spectator?
I have my favorites. All I say is I like the actual conservatives, not the fake ones.
So just a spectator then?
Are you asking if I campaign for people?
No he is asking you who do you consider "actual conservatives".
On February 17 2016 12:18 GreenHorizons wrote: [quote]
Conspiratorial no, specifically believing it's Obama and it being such a large portion of the Republican party is a special kind of hate " beyond reason" though I'm sure plenty of it could be blamed just on Obama's political standing.
Your silence on the Trump part says more than your comments on my lol's though.
You should know by now that I do my best to avoid your non-sequiturs.
MmmHmm. You come in to snipe at something irrelevant and then disappear back into the ether
It was a one line response to a one line comment. It would barely have existed before returning the nether realm.
Exactly, and you engage in post after post after getting on your high horse as not to muddy your boots discussing anything that would have you actually engage in the substance.
Your opinions on my humor are not as interesting as your perspective on the election. Based on your initial skepticism of Trump I would presume you aren't supporting him, with his victory looking all but inevitable, it's reasonable to ask whether you've jumped on board or if you've just given up on the election and will claim Trump doesn't represent the party after he gets the most votes.
But I suspect you'll still hide behind really only wanting to repeatedly post about my joke.
How am I hiding when I'm the only one still on topic? You mentioned Trump. I don't get your logic.
I'm no longer predicting Trump. It would appear that after so many years of ineffective leaders, people would rather have a strong man type than one who shares their principles. I'm not sure how his victory is inevitable, or how he is running away. Fully 2/3rd of GOP primary voters want someone else. Unfortunately, things are too split. If either Rubio or Cruz were to drop out today, I have a feeling Trump would no longer be leading after SC.
I'm a rather pessimistic person, but I haven't written it off. I rarely make predictions, and after trying once with Trump it's a reminder to not do so again.
Do you have a candidate you are supporting other than Trump or are you just a spectator?
I have my favorites. All I say is I like the actual conservatives, not the fake ones.
So just a spectator then?
Are you asking if I campaign for people?
No he is asking you who do you consider "actual conservatives".
On February 17 2016 12:19 Introvert wrote: [quote]
You should know by now that I do my best to avoid your non-sequiturs.
MmmHmm. You come in to snipe at something irrelevant and then disappear back into the ether
It was a one line response to a one line comment. It would barely have existed before returning the nether realm.
Exactly, and you engage in post after post after getting on your high horse as not to muddy your boots discussing anything that would have you actually engage in the substance.
Your opinions on my humor are not as interesting as your perspective on the election. Based on your initial skepticism of Trump I would presume you aren't supporting him, with his victory looking all but inevitable, it's reasonable to ask whether you've jumped on board or if you've just given up on the election and will claim Trump doesn't represent the party after he gets the most votes.
But I suspect you'll still hide behind really only wanting to repeatedly post about my joke.
How am I hiding when I'm the only one still on topic? You mentioned Trump. I don't get your logic.
I'm no longer predicting Trump. It would appear that after so many years of ineffective leaders, people would rather have a strong man type than one who shares their principles. I'm not sure how his victory is inevitable, or how he is running away. Fully 2/3rd of GOP primary voters want someone else. Unfortunately, things are too split. If either Rubio or Cruz were to drop out today, I have a feeling Trump would no longer be leading after SC.
I'm a rather pessimistic person, but I haven't written it off. I rarely make predictions, and after trying once with Trump it's a reminder to not do so again.
Do you have a candidate you are supporting other than Trump or are you just a spectator?
I have my favorites. All I say is I like the actual conservatives, not the fake ones.
So just a spectator then?
Are you asking if I campaign for people?
Whether you actually engage in supporting a candidate in the nomination process or just bitch and whine when they don't win, is what I'm asking.
I don't "bitch and whine" so I'm not sure what you are talking about. I support candidates and ideas among people I know. The rest is none of anyone's business.
On February 17 2016 12:28 GreenHorizons wrote: [quote]
MmmHmm. You come in to snipe at something irrelevant and then disappear back into the ether
It was a one line response to a one line comment. It would barely have existed before returning the nether realm.
Exactly, and you engage in post after post after getting on your high horse as not to muddy your boots discussing anything that would have you actually engage in the substance.
Your opinions on my humor are not as interesting as your perspective on the election. Based on your initial skepticism of Trump I would presume you aren't supporting him, with his victory looking all but inevitable, it's reasonable to ask whether you've jumped on board or if you've just given up on the election and will claim Trump doesn't represent the party after he gets the most votes.
But I suspect you'll still hide behind really only wanting to repeatedly post about my joke.
How am I hiding when I'm the only one still on topic? You mentioned Trump. I don't get your logic.
I'm no longer predicting Trump. It would appear that after so many years of ineffective leaders, people would rather have a strong man type than one who shares their principles. I'm not sure how his victory is inevitable, or how he is running away. Fully 2/3rd of GOP primary voters want someone else. Unfortunately, things are too split. If either Rubio or Cruz were to drop out today, I have a feeling Trump would no longer be leading after SC.
I'm a rather pessimistic person, but I haven't written it off. I rarely make predictions, and after trying once with Trump it's a reminder to not do so again.
Do you have a candidate you are supporting other than Trump or are you just a spectator?
I have my favorites. All I say is I like the actual conservatives, not the fake ones.
So just a spectator then?
Are you asking if I campaign for people?
Whether you actually engage in supporting a candidate in the nomination process or just bitch and whine when they don't win, is what I'm asking.
I don't "bitch and whine" so I'm not sure what you are talking about. I support candidates and ideas among people I know. The rest is none of anyone's business.
If you can't even admit who you support on an anonymous forum you're not a very good supporter. I love the "none of your business" line though lol.
"Bitch and whine" refers to the never ending chorus of conservatives saying their nominees aren't conservatives yet not even being able to say who they supported until after they lose.
On February 17 2016 12:24 Jibba wrote: In case anyone's wondering, Samantha Bee's new show on TBS is really good. Probably #2 among late night shows behind John Oliver.
If Oliver's is the new Daily Show, Bee's is the new Colbert Report.
On February 17 2016 12:32 Introvert wrote: [quote]
It was a one line response to a one line comment. It would barely have existed before returning the nether realm.
Exactly, and you engage in post after post after getting on your high horse as not to muddy your boots discussing anything that would have you actually engage in the substance.
Your opinions on my humor are not as interesting as your perspective on the election. Based on your initial skepticism of Trump I would presume you aren't supporting him, with his victory looking all but inevitable, it's reasonable to ask whether you've jumped on board or if you've just given up on the election and will claim Trump doesn't represent the party after he gets the most votes.
But I suspect you'll still hide behind really only wanting to repeatedly post about my joke.
How am I hiding when I'm the only one still on topic? You mentioned Trump. I don't get your logic.
I'm no longer predicting Trump. It would appear that after so many years of ineffective leaders, people would rather have a strong man type than one who shares their principles. I'm not sure how his victory is inevitable, or how he is running away. Fully 2/3rd of GOP primary voters want someone else. Unfortunately, things are too split. If either Rubio or Cruz were to drop out today, I have a feeling Trump would no longer be leading after SC.
I'm a rather pessimistic person, but I haven't written it off. I rarely make predictions, and after trying once with Trump it's a reminder to not do so again.
Do you have a candidate you are supporting other than Trump or are you just a spectator?
I have my favorites. All I say is I like the actual conservatives, not the fake ones.
So just a spectator then?
Are you asking if I campaign for people?
Whether you actually engage in supporting a candidate in the nomination process or just bitch and whine when they don't win, is what I'm asking.
I don't "bitch and whine" so I'm not sure what you are talking about. I support candidates and ideas among people I know. The rest is none of anyone's business.
If you can't even admit who you support on an anonymous forum you're not a very good supporter. I love the "none of your business" line though lol.
"Bitch and whine" refers to the never ending chorus of conservatives saying their nominees aren't conservatives yet not even being able to say who they supported until after they lose.
Maybe it's because I don't want to go down in the weeds? You realize we are still on a subject you kept pressing.
I'm confused why you place so much emphasis on TL. I don't come here to campaign or advocate for things. I know you are super excited for Sanders and all, but I'm just here to pass the time. I press for things with people in real life, not over the internet.
Edit: meanwhile conservatives do support people, that's what's going on in the primaries right now. It's why there was a blowout in 2010.
On February 17 2016 12:46 GreenHorizons wrote: [quote]
Exactly, and you engage in post after post after getting on your high horse as not to muddy your boots discussing anything that would have you actually engage in the substance.
Your opinions on my humor are not as interesting as your perspective on the election. Based on your initial skepticism of Trump I would presume you aren't supporting him, with his victory looking all but inevitable, it's reasonable to ask whether you've jumped on board or if you've just given up on the election and will claim Trump doesn't represent the party after he gets the most votes.
But I suspect you'll still hide behind really only wanting to repeatedly post about my joke.
How am I hiding when I'm the only one still on topic? You mentioned Trump. I don't get your logic.
I'm no longer predicting Trump. It would appear that after so many years of ineffective leaders, people would rather have a strong man type than one who shares their principles. I'm not sure how his victory is inevitable, or how he is running away. Fully 2/3rd of GOP primary voters want someone else. Unfortunately, things are too split. If either Rubio or Cruz were to drop out today, I have a feeling Trump would no longer be leading after SC.
I'm a rather pessimistic person, but I haven't written it off. I rarely make predictions, and after trying once with Trump it's a reminder to not do so again.
Do you have a candidate you are supporting other than Trump or are you just a spectator?
I have my favorites. All I say is I like the actual conservatives, not the fake ones.
So just a spectator then?
Are you asking if I campaign for people?
Whether you actually engage in supporting a candidate in the nomination process or just bitch and whine when they don't win, is what I'm asking.
I don't "bitch and whine" so I'm not sure what you are talking about. I support candidates and ideas among people I know. The rest is none of anyone's business.
If you can't even admit who you support on an anonymous forum you're not a very good supporter. I love the "none of your business" line though lol.
"Bitch and whine" refers to the never ending chorus of conservatives saying their nominees aren't conservatives yet not even being able to say who they supported until after they lose.
Maybe it's because I don't want to go down in the weeds? You realize we are still on a subject you kept pressing.
I'm confused why you place so much emphasis on TL. I don't come here to campaign or advocate for things. I know you are super excited for Sanders and all, but I'm just here to pass the time. I press for things with people in real life, not over the internet.
Edit: meanwhile conservatives do support people, that's what's going on in the primaries right now. It's why there was a blowout in 2010.
There is nothing wrong campaigning for someone that you like, that's how democracy work.
There is nothing to feel ashamed for cheering on who you think its right to support.
But however, that's not going to stop people from criticizing you afterward though.
EPT
