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OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
February 17 2016 01:57 GMT
#58781
I think Scalia was a piece of shit as much as anyone. But he was a massively overweight very old person.

It's like the Louis CK joke

"I just want it to be so that if you find out I died you ask 'what happened?' thats all. I want you to wonder what happened. I don't want it to be 'oh he died? well sure, sure he did...'"

Scalia dying is a 'well sure he did' situation.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 17 2016 01:59 GMT
#58782
On February 17 2016 10:33 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
perception of value. if harvard is 60K, then if vanderbilt is only 30K it looks bad.


There is a real difference in value but it's not what most people think. By making tuition 60k you send a signal that students will network with people who can afford to spend that on an education, which is fair to presume would put you in contact with far more capital than if tuition is half that.

Same general concept as country clubs, by restricting access to people willing to pay 2-3x as much as they would have to at a less expensive facility, you keep out the "undesirables" and people without money to waste (eg "invest" in others).


pretty much. and thats how you kill the american dream and strangle the american middle class.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23231 Posts
February 17 2016 02:01 GMT
#58783
On February 17 2016 10:55 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 10:51 KwarK wrote:
On February 17 2016 10:48 Introvert wrote:
Not when you hate someone this much.

I have an alibi. Also there is nothing new about dislike of Scalia. He's not suddenly come out as a bigot. There's no motive to kill him this year that wouldn't apply last year.


Perhaps I wasn't clear. I'm mocking this closeted gay theory. I accept him dying naturally.


Well it's been somewhat demonstrated that some of the most emboldened anti-gay folks are closeted so it's not that absurd, but it was a joke about the conspiracy Trump was floating about him being murdered. I suppose you would have the same critique for Republicans pushing the "Obama had him killed" crap. That they do in fact hate him beyond reason?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
February 17 2016 02:03 GMT
#58784
The prices suck but you have no choice but to bite the bullet.
rip passion
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 17 2016 02:07 GMT
#58785
i thought he died with some russian escort
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4753 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-17 02:10:24
February 17 2016 02:08 GMT
#58786
On February 17 2016 11:01 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 10:55 Introvert wrote:
On February 17 2016 10:51 KwarK wrote:
On February 17 2016 10:48 Introvert wrote:
Not when you hate someone this much.

I have an alibi. Also there is nothing new about dislike of Scalia. He's not suddenly come out as a bigot. There's no motive to kill him this year that wouldn't apply last year.


Perhaps I wasn't clear. I'm mocking this closeted gay theory. I accept him dying naturally.


Well it's been somewhat demonstrated that some of the most emboldened anti-gay folks are closeted so it's not that absurd, but it was a joke about the conspiracy Trump was floating about him being murdered. I suppose you would have the same critique for Republicans pushing the "Obama had him killed" crap. That they do in fact hate him beyond reason?


Conspiracy theories circulated among admirers or supporters is understandable. Not so much among haters. And saying he could be a closet homosexual is like saying he hates abortion because he had one once and regrets it. There is no reason to think so.

Edit: the point of the example is that I don't see any reason to think that was the case. It's some sort of strange fantasy from people who hate him. I think hating abortion after having one is actually quite legitimate.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42691 Posts
February 17 2016 02:20 GMT
#58787
If Scalia had had an abortion that would be quite a story.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23231 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-17 02:40:15
February 17 2016 02:39 GMT
#58788
On February 17 2016 11:08 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 11:01 GreenHorizons wrote:
On February 17 2016 10:55 Introvert wrote:
On February 17 2016 10:51 KwarK wrote:
On February 17 2016 10:48 Introvert wrote:
Not when you hate someone this much.

I have an alibi. Also there is nothing new about dislike of Scalia. He's not suddenly come out as a bigot. There's no motive to kill him this year that wouldn't apply last year.


Perhaps I wasn't clear. I'm mocking this closeted gay theory. I accept him dying naturally.


Well it's been somewhat demonstrated that some of the most emboldened anti-gay folks are closeted so it's not that absurd, but it was a joke about the conspiracy Trump was floating about him being murdered. I suppose you would have the same critique for Republicans pushing the "Obama had him killed" crap. That they do in fact hate him beyond reason?


Conspiracy theories circulated among admirers or supporters is understandable. Not so much among haters. And saying he could be a closet homosexual is like saying he hates abortion because he had one once and regrets it. There is no reason to think so.

Edit: the point of the example is that I don't see any reason to think that was the case. It's some sort of strange fantasy from people who hate him. I think hating abortion after having one is actually quite legitimate.


So basically you're suggesting that speculating if Obama had Scalia murdered is understandable. Understandable as in they hate Obama beyond reason or...?

I find it hilariously sad that it's easy for folks to turn jokes around Scalia as hate but people being murdered/poisoned/violated/and discriminated against is a bridge to far.

The "anti-PC" crowd sure does get sensitive when the shoe's on the other foot.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4753 Posts
February 17 2016 02:40 GMT
#58789
So would him being gay.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4753 Posts
February 17 2016 02:44 GMT
#58790
On February 17 2016 11:39 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 11:08 Introvert wrote:
On February 17 2016 11:01 GreenHorizons wrote:
On February 17 2016 10:55 Introvert wrote:
On February 17 2016 10:51 KwarK wrote:
On February 17 2016 10:48 Introvert wrote:
Not when you hate someone this much.

I have an alibi. Also there is nothing new about dislike of Scalia. He's not suddenly come out as a bigot. There's no motive to kill him this year that wouldn't apply last year.


Perhaps I wasn't clear. I'm mocking this closeted gay theory. I accept him dying naturally.


Well it's been somewhat demonstrated that some of the most emboldened anti-gay folks are closeted so it's not that absurd, but it was a joke about the conspiracy Trump was floating about him being murdered. I suppose you would have the same critique for Republicans pushing the "Obama had him killed" crap. That they do in fact hate him beyond reason?


Conspiracy theories circulated among admirers or supporters is understandable. Not so much among haters. And saying he could be a closet homosexual is like saying he hates abortion because he had one once and regrets it. There is no reason to think so.

Edit: the point of the example is that I don't see any reason to think that was the case. It's some sort of strange fantasy from people who hate him. I think hating abortion after having one is actually quite legitimate.


So basically you're suggesting that speculating if Obama had Scalia murdered is understandable. Understandable as in they hate Obama beyond reason or...?

I find it hilariously sad that it's easy for folks to turn jokes around Scalia as hate but people being murdered/poisoned/violated/and discriminated against is a bridge to far.

The "anti-PC" crowd sure does get sensitive when the shoe's on the other foot.


uh, what does PC have to do with anything I said?

I would like to think that a little bit of brain power would help, but I shall provide it.

When someone people respect dies, it seems normal that some of their admirers come up with all sorts of theories. It has nothing to do with Obama or whoever else happens to be president.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 17 2016 02:45 GMT
#58791
http://jebbush.com/

lol
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Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
February 17 2016 02:48 GMT
#58792
On February 17 2016 11:45 ticklishmusic wrote:
http://jebbush.com/

lol


omg lol
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-17 02:50:08
February 17 2016 02:50 GMT
#58793
On February 17 2016 11:45 ticklishmusic wrote:
http://jebbush.com/

lol

www.reddit.com/r/jebbush
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23231 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-17 03:01:01
February 17 2016 02:51 GMT
#58794
On February 17 2016 11:44 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 11:39 GreenHorizons wrote:
On February 17 2016 11:08 Introvert wrote:
On February 17 2016 11:01 GreenHorizons wrote:
On February 17 2016 10:55 Introvert wrote:
On February 17 2016 10:51 KwarK wrote:
On February 17 2016 10:48 Introvert wrote:
Not when you hate someone this much.

I have an alibi. Also there is nothing new about dislike of Scalia. He's not suddenly come out as a bigot. There's no motive to kill him this year that wouldn't apply last year.


Perhaps I wasn't clear. I'm mocking this closeted gay theory. I accept him dying naturally.


Well it's been somewhat demonstrated that some of the most emboldened anti-gay folks are closeted so it's not that absurd, but it was a joke about the conspiracy Trump was floating about him being murdered. I suppose you would have the same critique for Republicans pushing the "Obama had him killed" crap. That they do in fact hate him beyond reason?


Conspiracy theories circulated among admirers or supporters is understandable. Not so much among haters. And saying he could be a closet homosexual is like saying he hates abortion because he had one once and regrets it. There is no reason to think so.

Edit: the point of the example is that I don't see any reason to think that was the case. It's some sort of strange fantasy from people who hate him. I think hating abortion after having one is actually quite legitimate.


So basically you're suggesting that speculating if Obama had Scalia murdered is understandable. Understandable as in they hate Obama beyond reason or...?

I find it hilariously sad that it's easy for folks to turn jokes around Scalia as hate but people being murdered/poisoned/violated/and discriminated against is a bridge to far.

The "anti-PC" crowd sure does get sensitive when the shoe's on the other foot.


uh, what does PC have to do with anything I said?

I would like to think that a little bit of brain power would help, but I shall provide it.

When someone people respect dies, it seems normal that some of their admirers come up with all sorts of theories. It has nothing to do with Obama or whoever else happens to be president.

And you don't think that people can use parody to point out the ridiculousness of people without hating the topical component of it?

I'd save your brain power for figuring out how to beat Trump unless you've already given up on this election?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 17 2016 03:01 GMT
#58795
The United States and Cuba on Tuesday signed a deal restoring commercial air traffic for the first time in five decades, allowing dozens of new daily flights to bring hundreds of thousands more American travelers a year to the island as early as this fall.

Immediately after the signing, the U.S. Department of Transportation opened bidding by American air carriers on as many as 110 U.S.-Cuba flights a day — more than five times the current number. All flights operating between the two countries today are charters.

Barring other major announcements, the restart of commercial flights will be the most significant development in U.S.-Cuba trade since Presidents Barack Obama and Raul Castro announced in late 2014 that they would begin normalizing ties after a half-century of Cold War opposition. The Obama administration is eager to make rapid progress on building trade and diplomatic ties with Cuba before the president leaves office. The coming weeks are seen as particularly crucial to building momentum ahead of a trip he hopes to make to Havana by the end of March.

“Today is a historic day in the relationship between Cuba and the U.S.,” U.S. Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx said after he and Transportation Minister Adel Yzquierdo Rodriguez signed the deal in a ceremony at Havana's Hotel Nacional. “It represents a critically important milestone in the U.S. effort to engage with Cuba.”

The U.S. Department of Transportation expects to award the new routes by the summer. The winning airlines then must negotiate their own deals with Cuba.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4753 Posts
February 17 2016 03:05 GMT
#58796
On February 17 2016 11:51 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 11:44 Introvert wrote:
On February 17 2016 11:39 GreenHorizons wrote:
On February 17 2016 11:08 Introvert wrote:
On February 17 2016 11:01 GreenHorizons wrote:
On February 17 2016 10:55 Introvert wrote:
On February 17 2016 10:51 KwarK wrote:
On February 17 2016 10:48 Introvert wrote:
Not when you hate someone this much.

I have an alibi. Also there is nothing new about dislike of Scalia. He's not suddenly come out as a bigot. There's no motive to kill him this year that wouldn't apply last year.


Perhaps I wasn't clear. I'm mocking this closeted gay theory. I accept him dying naturally.


Well it's been somewhat demonstrated that some of the most emboldened anti-gay folks are closeted so it's not that absurd, but it was a joke about the conspiracy Trump was floating about him being murdered. I suppose you would have the same critique for Republicans pushing the "Obama had him killed" crap. That they do in fact hate him beyond reason?


Conspiracy theories circulated among admirers or supporters is understandable. Not so much among haters. And saying he could be a closet homosexual is like saying he hates abortion because he had one once and regrets it. There is no reason to think so.

Edit: the point of the example is that I don't see any reason to think that was the case. It's some sort of strange fantasy from people who hate him. I think hating abortion after having one is actually quite legitimate.


So basically you're suggesting that speculating if Obama had Scalia murdered is understandable. Understandable as in they hate Obama beyond reason or...?

I find it hilariously sad that it's easy for folks to turn jokes around Scalia as hate but people being murdered/poisoned/violated/and discriminated against is a bridge to far.

The "anti-PC" crowd sure does get sensitive when the shoe's on the other foot.


uh, what does PC have to do with anything I said?

I would like to think that a little bit of brain power would help, but I shall provide it.

When someone people respect dies, it seems normal that some of their admirers come up with all sorts of theories. It has nothing to do with Obama or whoever else happens to be president.

And you don't think that people can use parody to point out the ridiculousness of people without hating the topical component of it?

I'd save your brain power for figuring out how to beat Trump unless you've already given up on this election?



What are you talking about? Are you going to try and cover with "I was just joking" again? lol
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23231 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-17 03:09:49
February 17 2016 03:08 GMT
#58797
On February 17 2016 12:05 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 11:51 GreenHorizons wrote:
On February 17 2016 11:44 Introvert wrote:
On February 17 2016 11:39 GreenHorizons wrote:
On February 17 2016 11:08 Introvert wrote:
On February 17 2016 11:01 GreenHorizons wrote:
On February 17 2016 10:55 Introvert wrote:
On February 17 2016 10:51 KwarK wrote:
On February 17 2016 10:48 Introvert wrote:
Not when you hate someone this much.

I have an alibi. Also there is nothing new about dislike of Scalia. He's not suddenly come out as a bigot. There's no motive to kill him this year that wouldn't apply last year.


Perhaps I wasn't clear. I'm mocking this closeted gay theory. I accept him dying naturally.


Well it's been somewhat demonstrated that some of the most emboldened anti-gay folks are closeted so it's not that absurd, but it was a joke about the conspiracy Trump was floating about him being murdered. I suppose you would have the same critique for Republicans pushing the "Obama had him killed" crap. That they do in fact hate him beyond reason?


Conspiracy theories circulated among admirers or supporters is understandable. Not so much among haters. And saying he could be a closet homosexual is like saying he hates abortion because he had one once and regrets it. There is no reason to think so.

Edit: the point of the example is that I don't see any reason to think that was the case. It's some sort of strange fantasy from people who hate him. I think hating abortion after having one is actually quite legitimate.


So basically you're suggesting that speculating if Obama had Scalia murdered is understandable. Understandable as in they hate Obama beyond reason or...?

I find it hilariously sad that it's easy for folks to turn jokes around Scalia as hate but people being murdered/poisoned/violated/and discriminated against is a bridge to far.

The "anti-PC" crowd sure does get sensitive when the shoe's on the other foot.


uh, what does PC have to do with anything I said?

I would like to think that a little bit of brain power would help, but I shall provide it.

When someone people respect dies, it seems normal that some of their admirers come up with all sorts of theories. It has nothing to do with Obama or whoever else happens to be president.

And you don't think that people can use parody to point out the ridiculousness of people without hating the topical component of it?

I'd save your brain power for figuring out how to beat Trump unless you've already given up on this election?



What are you talking about? Are you going to try and cover with "I was just joking" again? lol


I said "my conspiracy money" that should have been your first clue.

But how about beating Trump or have you given up on the election?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4753 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-17 03:18:40
February 17 2016 03:15 GMT
#58798
On February 17 2016 12:08 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 12:05 Introvert wrote:
On February 17 2016 11:51 GreenHorizons wrote:
On February 17 2016 11:44 Introvert wrote:
On February 17 2016 11:39 GreenHorizons wrote:
On February 17 2016 11:08 Introvert wrote:
On February 17 2016 11:01 GreenHorizons wrote:
On February 17 2016 10:55 Introvert wrote:
On February 17 2016 10:51 KwarK wrote:
On February 17 2016 10:48 Introvert wrote:
Not when you hate someone this much.

I have an alibi. Also there is nothing new about dislike of Scalia. He's not suddenly come out as a bigot. There's no motive to kill him this year that wouldn't apply last year.


Perhaps I wasn't clear. I'm mocking this closeted gay theory. I accept him dying naturally.


Well it's been somewhat demonstrated that some of the most emboldened anti-gay folks are closeted so it's not that absurd, but it was a joke about the conspiracy Trump was floating about him being murdered. I suppose you would have the same critique for Republicans pushing the "Obama had him killed" crap. That they do in fact hate him beyond reason?


Conspiracy theories circulated among admirers or supporters is understandable. Not so much among haters. And saying he could be a closet homosexual is like saying he hates abortion because he had one once and regrets it. There is no reason to think so.

Edit: the point of the example is that I don't see any reason to think that was the case. It's some sort of strange fantasy from people who hate him. I think hating abortion after having one is actually quite legitimate.


So basically you're suggesting that speculating if Obama had Scalia murdered is understandable. Understandable as in they hate Obama beyond reason or...?

I find it hilariously sad that it's easy for folks to turn jokes around Scalia as hate but people being murdered/poisoned/violated/and discriminated against is a bridge to far.

The "anti-PC" crowd sure does get sensitive when the shoe's on the other foot.


uh, what does PC have to do with anything I said?

I would like to think that a little bit of brain power would help, but I shall provide it.

When someone people respect dies, it seems normal that some of their admirers come up with all sorts of theories. It has nothing to do with Obama or whoever else happens to be president.

And you don't think that people can use parody to point out the ridiculousness of people without hating the topical component of it?

I'd save your brain power for figuring out how to beat Trump unless you've already given up on this election?



What are you talking about? Are you going to try and cover with "I was just joking" again? lol


I said "my conspiracy money" that should have been your first clue.

But how about beating Trump or have you given up on the election?


So are you recycling, long, not funny jokes? Cause you had like two paragraphs in defense of such a view the other day.

The fact that you think that some people are conspiratorial because they especially hate Obama is funny, though. I'll give you that.

Edit: also where did you say "conspiracy money"

Reedit: found it.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23231 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-17 03:19:33
February 17 2016 03:18 GMT
#58799
On February 17 2016 12:15 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 12:08 GreenHorizons wrote:
On February 17 2016 12:05 Introvert wrote:
On February 17 2016 11:51 GreenHorizons wrote:
On February 17 2016 11:44 Introvert wrote:
On February 17 2016 11:39 GreenHorizons wrote:
On February 17 2016 11:08 Introvert wrote:
On February 17 2016 11:01 GreenHorizons wrote:
On February 17 2016 10:55 Introvert wrote:
On February 17 2016 10:51 KwarK wrote:
[quote]
I have an alibi. Also there is nothing new about dislike of Scalia. He's not suddenly come out as a bigot. There's no motive to kill him this year that wouldn't apply last year.


Perhaps I wasn't clear. I'm mocking this closeted gay theory. I accept him dying naturally.


Well it's been somewhat demonstrated that some of the most emboldened anti-gay folks are closeted so it's not that absurd, but it was a joke about the conspiracy Trump was floating about him being murdered. I suppose you would have the same critique for Republicans pushing the "Obama had him killed" crap. That they do in fact hate him beyond reason?


Conspiracy theories circulated among admirers or supporters is understandable. Not so much among haters. And saying he could be a closet homosexual is like saying he hates abortion because he had one once and regrets it. There is no reason to think so.

Edit: the point of the example is that I don't see any reason to think that was the case. It's some sort of strange fantasy from people who hate him. I think hating abortion after having one is actually quite legitimate.


So basically you're suggesting that speculating if Obama had Scalia murdered is understandable. Understandable as in they hate Obama beyond reason or...?

I find it hilariously sad that it's easy for folks to turn jokes around Scalia as hate but people being murdered/poisoned/violated/and discriminated against is a bridge to far.

The "anti-PC" crowd sure does get sensitive when the shoe's on the other foot.


uh, what does PC have to do with anything I said?

I would like to think that a little bit of brain power would help, but I shall provide it.

When someone people respect dies, it seems normal that some of their admirers come up with all sorts of theories. It has nothing to do with Obama or whoever else happens to be president.

And you don't think that people can use parody to point out the ridiculousness of people without hating the topical component of it?

I'd save your brain power for figuring out how to beat Trump unless you've already given up on this election?



What are you talking about? Are you going to try and cover with "I was just joking" again? lol


I said "my conspiracy money" that should have been your first clue.

But how about beating Trump or have you given up on the election?


So are you recycling, long, not funny jokes? Cause you had like two paragraphs in defense of such a view the other day.

The fact that you think that some people are conspiratorial because they especially hate Obama is funny, though. I'll give you that.


Conspiratorial no, specifically believing it's Obama and it being such a large portion of the Republican party is a special kind of hate " beyond reason" though I'm sure plenty of it could be blamed just on Obama's political standing.

Your silence on the Trump part says more than your comments on my lol's though.

Edit2youredit: lol
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On February 17 2016 12:18 GreenHorizons wrote:
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On February 17 2016 12:15 Introvert wrote:
On February 17 2016 12:08 GreenHorizons wrote:
On February 17 2016 12:05 Introvert wrote:
On February 17 2016 11:51 GreenHorizons wrote:
On February 17 2016 11:44 Introvert wrote:
On February 17 2016 11:39 GreenHorizons wrote:
On February 17 2016 11:08 Introvert wrote:
On February 17 2016 11:01 GreenHorizons wrote:
On February 17 2016 10:55 Introvert wrote:
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Perhaps I wasn't clear. I'm mocking this closeted gay theory. I accept him dying naturally.


Well it's been somewhat demonstrated that some of the most emboldened anti-gay folks are closeted so it's not that absurd, but it was a joke about the conspiracy Trump was floating about him being murdered. I suppose you would have the same critique for Republicans pushing the "Obama had him killed" crap. That they do in fact hate him beyond reason?


Conspiracy theories circulated among admirers or supporters is understandable. Not so much among haters. And saying he could be a closet homosexual is like saying he hates abortion because he had one once and regrets it. There is no reason to think so.

Edit: the point of the example is that I don't see any reason to think that was the case. It's some sort of strange fantasy from people who hate him. I think hating abortion after having one is actually quite legitimate.


So basically you're suggesting that speculating if Obama had Scalia murdered is understandable. Understandable as in they hate Obama beyond reason or...?

I find it hilariously sad that it's easy for folks to turn jokes around Scalia as hate but people being murdered/poisoned/violated/and discriminated against is a bridge to far.

The "anti-PC" crowd sure does get sensitive when the shoe's on the other foot.


uh, what does PC have to do with anything I said?

I would like to think that a little bit of brain power would help, but I shall provide it.

When someone people respect dies, it seems normal that some of their admirers come up with all sorts of theories. It has nothing to do with Obama or whoever else happens to be president.

And you don't think that people can use parody to point out the ridiculousness of people without hating the topical component of it?

I'd save your brain power for figuring out how to beat Trump unless you've already given up on this election?



What are you talking about? Are you going to try and cover with "I was just joking" again? lol


I said "my conspiracy money" that should have been your first clue.

But how about beating Trump or have you given up on the election?


So are you recycling, long, not funny jokes? Cause you had like two paragraphs in defense of such a view the other day.

The fact that you think that some people are conspiratorial because they especially hate Obama is funny, though. I'll give you that.


Conspiratorial no, specifically believing it's Obama and it being such a large portion of the Republican party is a special kind of hate " beyond reason" though I'm sure plenty of it could be blamed just on Obama's political standing.

Your silence on the Trump part says more than your comments on my lol's though.


You should know by now that I do my best to avoid your non-sequiturs.
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