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Jormundr
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1678 Posts
February 13 2016 23:09 GMT
#58301
Hahahahah

Will say?
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15686 Posts
February 13 2016 23:10 GMT
#58302
My jaw dropped when I read it. Oh my god. What does this mean? Can Obama appoint a replacement?
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4748 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-13 23:11:46
February 13 2016 23:11 GMT
#58303
On February 14 2016 08:10 Mohdoo wrote:
My jaw dropped when I read it. Oh my god. What does this mean? Can Obama appoint a replacement?


Unless the GOP blocks it until next January. IMO unlikely, even if I wish it so.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21666 Posts
February 13 2016 23:13 GMT
#58304
On February 14 2016 08:07 ticklishmusic wrote:
Ted "I clerked for the Supreme Court" Cruz will say something along the lines of how it would be disrespectful to Scalia to let a liberal replace him

On February 14 2016 08:09 Jormundr wrote:
Hahahahah
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/698634625246195712
Will say?

That didnt take long. rofl
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15686 Posts
February 13 2016 23:14 GMT
#58305
On February 14 2016 08:11 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 08:10 Mohdoo wrote:
My jaw dropped when I read it. Oh my god. What does this mean? Can Obama appoint a replacement?


Unless the GOP blocks it until next January. IMO unlikely, even if I wish it so.


Cruz calling for them to block it. But can they really?
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4748 Posts
February 13 2016 23:15 GMT
#58306
On February 14 2016 08:14 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 08:11 Introvert wrote:
On February 14 2016 08:10 Mohdoo wrote:
My jaw dropped when I read it. Oh my god. What does this mean? Can Obama appoint a replacement?


Unless the GOP blocks it until next January. IMO unlikely, even if I wish it so.


Cruz calling for them to block it. But can they really?


Technically yes, the nominee has to be approved by the Senate.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-13 23:16:50
February 13 2016 23:15 GMT
#58307
Man he's going to have a speech about during his time as a clerk for the Supreme Court he had gotten to know Scalia personally and the type of man he was and how Ted will defend Scalia's values during the debate.

But I do respect Ted's boldness. We all thought about Ted. What does Marco have to say about this? Do we care about what Marco thinks? Not really...
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-13 23:21:47
February 13 2016 23:20 GMT
#58308
"Let's dispel with this fiction that Barack Obama doesn't know what he's doing. He knows exactly what he's doing."

actually:

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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 13 2016 23:21 GMT
#58309
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 13 2016 23:22 GMT
#58310
im primarily looking for a justice that would be good on anti trust and campaign finance. diane wood seems like the best one but idk if her long history on the federal circuit provides too much ammunition against her.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 13 2016 23:22 GMT
#58311
I'll bet right now Obama will nominate the next justice.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23221 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-13 23:24:11
February 13 2016 23:23 GMT
#58312
So about thinking they weren't going to openly fight this...?
On February 14 2016 08:22 ticklishmusic wrote:
I'll bet right now Obama will nominate the next justice.


Might be the person he nominates but it won't be before the election.
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kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
February 13 2016 23:24 GMT
#58313
On February 14 2016 08:11 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 08:10 Mohdoo wrote:
My jaw dropped when I read it. Oh my god. What does this mean? Can Obama appoint a replacement?

IMO unlikely, even if I wish it so.

The interesting thing to note here is that there is absolutely no actual reason why this should be the case, except for you wanting to hijack the normal process to ensure your ideological positions prevail.
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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4748 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-13 23:26:14
February 13 2016 23:24 GMT
#58314
Well of course they are going to fight. But will they fight to win? They could win. They have the power and votes to hold it up. But will they?

On February 14 2016 08:24 kwizach wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 08:11 Introvert wrote:
On February 14 2016 08:10 Mohdoo wrote:
My jaw dropped when I read it. Oh my god. What does this mean? Can Obama appoint a replacement?

IMO unlikely, even if I wish it so.

The interesting thing to note here is that there is absolutely no actual reason why this should be the case, except for you wanting to hijack the normal process to ensure your ideological positions prevail.


Says the person who called it a great day for America. These seats obviously matter, and are obviously political. So yeah, I want a conservative appointed (or at least a moderate) over a liberal.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-13 23:29:37
February 13 2016 23:27 GMT
#58315
Obama has 11 months left in his term, it's a ridiculous argument to say he doesn't have the right to appoint a justice.

Oh sure, the Republicans can block it, but is it gonna be worth it? It's going to hurt them. It's not a hill they want to die on, though based on recent history they haven't been particularly good at picking hills.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 13 2016 23:27 GMT
#58316
I can't think of any legitimate reason why it shouldn't be up to the current president to nominate a replacement. (Pre-)Presidential campaigns are expected not to interfere with the government's activity, right?
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21666 Posts
February 13 2016 23:27 GMT
#58317
Lets assume they hold it up until after the elections.
Lets assume a Democrat wins (not unlikely atm)

Will the Senate respect the wishes of the new president and accept a liberal judge?
They are now repeatedly saying the next president should decide.
We all know they wont just accept it if they are not the one providing the president.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2016 23:28 GMT
#58318
On February 14 2016 08:24 Introvert wrote:
Well of course they are going to fight. But will they fight to win? They could win. They have the power and votes to hold it up. But will they?

this just seems like another huge PR loss for them if they block this until a new president gets elected. Imo there's just no way they get away with that during this time without taking a good loss of votes in the general with how everyone is still pissed about the shutdown.
Sure it isn't really related but people are going to be reminded of that imagine of Republicans blocking shit for the lulz.
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21666 Posts
February 13 2016 23:29 GMT
#58319
On February 14 2016 08:28 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 08:24 Introvert wrote:
Well of course they are going to fight. But will they fight to win? They could win. They have the power and votes to hold it up. But will they?

this just seems like another huge PR loss for them if they block this until a new president gets elected. Imo there's just no way they get away with that during this time without taking a good loss of votes in the general with how everyone is still pissed about the shutdown.
Sure it isn't really related but people are going to be reminded of that imagine of Republicans blocking shit for the lulz.

The Democrats will remind everyone if they try for sure.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-13 23:32:56
February 13 2016 23:30 GMT
#58320
The court can't function with eight, because if they tie, the lower decision holds, but without the ruling of the higher court. A case with the same issues will work its way up again when there is a full court.

He is going to nomination someone and they are going to get confirmed. This isn't anything new. Justices have died during elections before. Obama was elected for 4 years, his term isn't up. The average confirmation of a justice took 74 days, he has over 300 left.

Attempting to hold it up until after the election is political suicide, just like the government shut down. It will be on every news segment, every day until the seat is filled.
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