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Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-13 22:03:46
February 13 2016 22:02 GMT
#58261
Senior U.S. Supreme Court Associate Justice Antonin Scalia found dead at West Texas ranch
Associate Justice Antonin Scalia was found dead of apparent natural causes Saturday on a luxury resort in West Texas, federal officials said.
Scalia, 79, was a guest at the Cibolo Creek Ranch, a resort in the Big Bend region south of Marfa.
According to a report, Scalia arrived at the ranch on Friday and attended a private party with about 40 people. When he did not appear for breakfast, a person associated with the ranch went to his room and found a body.
Chief U.S. District Judge Orlando Garcia, of the Western Judicial District of Texas, was notified about the death from the U.S. Marshals Service.
U.S. District Judge Fred Biery said he was among those notified about Scalia's death.
"I was told it was this morning," Biery said of Scalia's death. "It happened on a ranch out near Marfa. As far as the details, I think it's pretty vague right now as to how," he said. "My reaction is it's very unfortunate. It's unfortunate with any death, and politically in the presidential cycle we're in, my educated guess is nothing will happen before the next president is elected."
The U.S. Marshal Service, the Presidio County sheriff and the FBI were involved in the investigation.
Officials with the law enforcement agencies declined to comment.
A federal official who asked not to be named said there was no evidence of foul play and it appeared that Scalia died of natural causes.
A gray Cadillac hearse pulled into the ranch last Saturday afternoon. The hearse came from Alpine Memorial Funeral Home.
Scalia was nominated to the U.S. Supreme Court in 1986 by President Ronald Reagan.


Sad to hear. I wonder if the Republicans will attempt to hold up any replacement until next year.
yrba1
Profile Joined June 2010
United States325 Posts
February 13 2016 22:07 GMT
#58262
On February 14 2016 07:02 Saryph wrote:
Senior U.S. Supreme Court Associate Justice Antonin Scalia found dead at West Texas ranch
Show nested quote +
Associate Justice Antonin Scalia was found dead of apparent natural causes Saturday on a luxury resort in West Texas, federal officials said.
Scalia, 79, was a guest at the Cibolo Creek Ranch, a resort in the Big Bend region south of Marfa.
According to a report, Scalia arrived at the ranch on Friday and attended a private party with about 40 people. When he did not appear for breakfast, a person associated with the ranch went to his room and found a body.
Chief U.S. District Judge Orlando Garcia, of the Western Judicial District of Texas, was notified about the death from the U.S. Marshals Service.
U.S. District Judge Fred Biery said he was among those notified about Scalia's death.
"I was told it was this morning," Biery said of Scalia's death. "It happened on a ranch out near Marfa. As far as the details, I think it's pretty vague right now as to how," he said. "My reaction is it's very unfortunate. It's unfortunate with any death, and politically in the presidential cycle we're in, my educated guess is nothing will happen before the next president is elected."
The U.S. Marshal Service, the Presidio County sheriff and the FBI were involved in the investigation.
Officials with the law enforcement agencies declined to comment.
A federal official who asked not to be named said there was no evidence of foul play and it appeared that Scalia died of natural causes.
A gray Cadillac hearse pulled into the ranch last Saturday afternoon. The hearse came from Alpine Memorial Funeral Home.
Scalia was nominated to the U.S. Supreme Court in 1986 by President Ronald Reagan.


Sad to hear. I wonder if the Republicans will attempt to hold up any replacement until next year.


As fucked up as it sounds, it's about time he passed on for someone hopefully more progressive in social issues.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17983 Posts
February 13 2016 22:08 GMT
#58263
On February 14 2016 07:02 Saryph wrote:
Senior U.S. Supreme Court Associate Justice Antonin Scalia found dead at West Texas ranch
Show nested quote +
Associate Justice Antonin Scalia was found dead of apparent natural causes Saturday on a luxury resort in West Texas, federal officials said.
Scalia, 79, was a guest at the Cibolo Creek Ranch, a resort in the Big Bend region south of Marfa.
According to a report, Scalia arrived at the ranch on Friday and attended a private party with about 40 people. When he did not appear for breakfast, a person associated with the ranch went to his room and found a body.
Chief U.S. District Judge Orlando Garcia, of the Western Judicial District of Texas, was notified about the death from the U.S. Marshals Service.
U.S. District Judge Fred Biery said he was among those notified about Scalia's death.
"I was told it was this morning," Biery said of Scalia's death. "It happened on a ranch out near Marfa. As far as the details, I think it's pretty vague right now as to how," he said. "My reaction is it's very unfortunate. It's unfortunate with any death, and politically in the presidential cycle we're in, my educated guess is nothing will happen before the next president is elected."
The U.S. Marshal Service, the Presidio County sheriff and the FBI were involved in the investigation.
Officials with the law enforcement agencies declined to comment.
A federal official who asked not to be named said there was no evidence of foul play and it appeared that Scalia died of natural causes.
A gray Cadillac hearse pulled into the ranch last Saturday afternoon. The hearse came from Alpine Memorial Funeral Home.
Scalia was nominated to the U.S. Supreme Court in 1986 by President Ronald Reagan.


Sad to hear. I wonder if the Republicans will attempt to hold up any replacement until next year.


Can they?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 13 2016 22:09 GMT
#58264
Holy fuck.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
February 13 2016 22:15 GMT
#58265
Good riddance.
rip passion
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 13 2016 22:17 GMT
#58266
RIP, but good riddance.

Personally, I don't think there wasn't much of the brilliant legal mind that was first appointed. His rulings of late have been driven more by ideaology than any real legal argument.
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NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7222 Posts
February 13 2016 22:17 GMT
#58267
It's a huge opportunity for Obama to reshape the court.
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21667 Posts
February 13 2016 22:17 GMT
#58268
Have some dignity. no need to express gladness someone died, yeah he wasn't the greatest supreme judge (he was garbage) but no need to celebrate his death.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-13 22:20:20
February 13 2016 22:20 GMT
#58269
On February 14 2016 07:17 Gorsameth wrote:
Have some dignity. no need to express gladness someone died, yeah he wasn't the greatest supreme judge (he was garbage) but no need to celebrate his death.

It's a difficult line to toe, but I think the country is better off that he's no longer on the bench. It's sad that it came from death instead of retirement.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
February 13 2016 22:23 GMT
#58270
No need to show pity for the pitiless. He used his position to push forth his ideology aggressively.
rip passion
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4748 Posts
February 13 2016 22:24 GMT
#58271
Wow.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-13 22:27:36
February 13 2016 22:26 GMT
#58272
I am sad he is dead, but I am also relieved he will not be ruling on cases any more. I don't think the GOP is going to be able to hold of a nomination for 10 month and win any elections.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8510 Posts
February 13 2016 22:28 GMT
#58273
RIP

potential political implications are yuge.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23221 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-13 22:31:10
February 13 2016 22:28 GMT
#58274
Well, RIP.

This is going to change things. This will put a point on how important SCOTUS is and what's at stake this election.

On February 14 2016 07:26 Plansix wrote:
I am sad he is dead, but I am also relieved he will not be ruling on cases any more. I don't think the GOP is going to be able to hold of a nomination for 10 month and win any elections.


I don't think there is going to be a legitimate shot at getting it done anyway. I don't think they would be able to approve of anyone Obama suggested with so much attention likely to come to it.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44311 Posts
February 13 2016 22:30 GMT
#58275
RIP Scalia, hopefully someone more progressive will follow.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 13 2016 22:30 GMT
#58276
hmm, two angles:

1. SCOTUS less important, Obama's appointee means we got a liberal majority
2. SCOTUS more important, we really have the chance to get the most liberal SCOTUS ever if a Democrat is elected
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 13 2016 22:33 GMT
#58277
But the question is that the Republicans hold the Senate majority but will they approve of a moderate, sure as hell not a Liberal.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23221 Posts
February 13 2016 22:35 GMT
#58278
On February 14 2016 07:30 ticklishmusic wrote:
hmm, two angles:

1. SCOTUS less important, Obama's appointee means we got a liberal majority
2. SCOTUS more important, we really have the chance to get the most liberal SCOTUS ever if a Democrat is elected


Definitely more important. It has to be a liberal that gets suggested and Republicans have to block them for hopes of winning the presidency.

Neither side can choose not to fight this fight.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21667 Posts
February 13 2016 22:35 GMT
#58279
On February 14 2016 07:33 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
But the question is that the Republicans hold the Senate majority but will they approve of a moderate, sure as hell not a Liberal.

I doubt they would accept a Conservative if he is put forth by Obama lol

Regardless of which way his replacement leans, so long as his argumentation has a base in reality it will be an improvement.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4748 Posts
February 13 2016 22:36 GMT
#58280
The GOP is so weak Obama could get a pretty liberal justice. This is terrible.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
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