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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 20 2016 14:14 GMT
#55321
On January 20 2016 23:04 DickMcFanny wrote:
Because it's highly lucrative for NBC and FOX?
Or because after citizens united lobbyists need more time to buy elections?

Elections are great money for the 24/7 news networks. They love them. Not great for voters since they report on the elections like Buzzfeed, but great money for them.
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
January 20 2016 15:41 GMT
#55322
On January 20 2016 22:50 DickMcFanny wrote:
Yesterday on Rachel Maddow, she said the nominations happen in AUGUST?!

WTF, why are we even talking about who is going to be the Republican / Democratic nominee already? It's more than half a year away!


Because all of us in this thread will gladly eat it up like starved animals. We're all hopeless. And we're not alone.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 20 2016 15:43 GMT
#55323
On January 21 2016 00:41 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 22:50 DickMcFanny wrote:
Yesterday on Rachel Maddow, she said the nominations happen in AUGUST?!

WTF, why are we even talking about who is going to be the Republican / Democratic nominee already? It's more than half a year away!


Because all of us in this thread will gladly eat it up like starved animals. We're all hopeless. And we're not alone.


Plus it's better than the Kardashians.
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DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
January 20 2016 16:24 GMT
#55324
On January 21 2016 00:41 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 22:50 DickMcFanny wrote:
Yesterday on Rachel Maddow, she said the nominations happen in AUGUST?!

WTF, why are we even talking about who is going to be the Republican / Democratic nominee already? It's more than half a year away!


Because all of us in this thread will gladly eat it up like starved animals. We're all hopeless. And we're not alone.


Speaking as someone who can't even vote and still has seen two of the democratic and one of the republican debates, I concur.
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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
January 20 2016 16:24 GMT
#55325
yup. we are hopeless indeed.

but the show must go on :D
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 20 2016 16:29 GMT
#55326
This is the closest we can have to a reasoned discussion and be good citizens participating in our democratic process though. I like to think we make up for our fellow citizens who don't know what the 14th amendment was or where Iraq is on a map.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 20 2016 16:40 GMT
#55327
Here's the best thing about Trump's success so far: SNL and other comedy outfits have struck comedy gold.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 20 2016 16:46 GMT
#55328
After the Kylo Ren Undercover Boss video, I consider this to the best video in the last 12 months.



Well, this one is good too.



Like I said, better than the Kardashians.
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-20 16:52:01
January 20 2016 16:51 GMT
#55329
Anyone else predicting a Cruz nosedive? Iowa's governor, Palin, others are going to be reluctant to endorse him. I am so curious to see poll numbers in a week. Who will get the Cruz votes? Trump or Rubio? Rubio's chance to finally have a chance or Trump's assured victory. What a wild time.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 20 2016 16:58 GMT
#55330
I'm mixed on how hard Cruz will be hit, but the changes of him winning Iowa and coasting to the nomination, aka the easy route, is pretty much gone. Palin pulls away from Cruz's evangelical core in Iowa (which he was letting erode anyways) and the gov is going to push moderates (and a lot of others) towards Rubio/ Bush/ Christie.
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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
January 20 2016 16:59 GMT
#55331
I can't see Cruz losing to Rubio unless something changes in the coming days.
rip passion
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
January 20 2016 17:09 GMT
#55332
cruz seems to be for the really rightwing guys who also think trump is just faking it.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44170 Posts
January 20 2016 17:16 GMT
#55333
Economy contracting a lot these last few weeks which looks bad for Obama. He had 7 years of uninterrupted economic growth with the SP500 tripling from the Bush low (a colossal increase for which he was largely not responsible for). It's dropped 300 points now, a little over 14%, and is showing no signs of stopping. While it's still way, way higher than it was when he took office people won't remember the good years, they'll remember (and vote) based on recent history.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 20 2016 17:18 GMT
#55334
If Cruz was going to take off, it would have happened by now. After what happened yesterday, he may collapse in Iowa, which could effectively end his campaign. Trump is starting to look like a lock for the nomination.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22443 Posts
January 20 2016 17:22 GMT
#55335
On January 21 2016 02:18 xDaunt wrote:
If Cruz was going to take off, it would have happened by now. After what happened yesterday, he may collapse in Iowa, which could effectively end his campaign. Trump is starting to look like a lock for the nomination.

I don't know if I would go so far as to say a lock. Polls favor him no doubt but who comes out to vote can change a lot.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-20 17:23:31
January 20 2016 17:22 GMT
#55336
On January 21 2016 02:16 KwarK wrote:
Economy contracting a lot these last few weeks which looks bad for Obama. He had 7 years of uninterrupted economic growth with the SP500 tripling from the Bush low (a colossal increase for which he was largely not responsible for). It's dropped 300 points now, a little over 14%, and is showing no signs of stopping. While it's still way, way higher than it was when he took office people won't remember the good years, they'll remember (and vote) based on recent history.


The growth of S&P 500 was more the result of close to 0 interest rates and printing money non stop than actual economic growth. Unlike they keynesian fantasy, you can't pump the bubble artificially forever.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 20 2016 17:22 GMT
#55337
On January 21 2016 02:16 KwarK wrote:
Economy contracting a lot these last few weeks which looks bad for Obama. He had 7 years of uninterrupted economic growth with the SP500 tripling from the Bush low (a colossal increase for which he was largely not responsible for). It's dropped 300 points now, a little over 14%, and is showing no signs of stopping. While it's still way, way higher than it was when he took office people won't remember the good years, they'll remember (and vote) based on recent history.

I believe you'll find a post of mine from last summer predicting that this would happen and that it would play into Trump's hand.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-20 17:26:25
January 20 2016 17:23 GMT
#55338
500 points, just got the WSJ notification on my phone.

EDIT: I don't believe that oil is a good investment still, I'll probably just go safe for now.

I've got my yearly IRA contribution unallocated, probably going to pump a chunk into index funds every couple week for the next month while the market is low
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 20 2016 17:23 GMT
#55339
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trump-is-really-unpopular-with-general-election-voters/

Nate Silver continues to be confused why the GOP seems to be resided to Cruz and Trump, despite no votes being cast. And points out trends that show Cruz might be just as bad a nominee as Trump. While reminding everyone again that head to head polls are worthless garbage.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 20 2016 17:29 GMT
#55340
On January 21 2016 02:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
500 points, just got the WSJ notification on my phone.

EDIT: I don't believe that oil is a good investment still, I'll probably just go safe for now.

I've got my yearly IRA contribution unallocated, probably going to pump a chunk into index funds every couple week for the next month while the market is low

I put my IRA into conservative bonds last spring/summer. I haven't been liking what I've been seeing from economic indicators for a while. I'm just going to hang tight and wait for the crash.
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