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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-19 23:42:21
January 19 2016 23:41 GMT
#55281
On January 20 2016 08:25 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 07:20 cLutZ wrote:
On January 20 2016 06:58 Doublemint wrote:
On January 20 2016 06:39 GreenHorizons wrote:
Sarah Palin, the former Alaska governor and 2008 vice-presidential nominee who became a Tea Party sensation and a favorite of grass-roots conservatives, will endorse Donald J. Trump in Iowa on Tuesday, officials with his campaign confirmed. The endorsement provides Mr. Trump with a potentially significant boost just 13 days before the state’s caucuses.

“I’m proud to endorse Donald J. Trump for president,” Ms. Palin said in a statement provided by his campaign.

Her support is the highest-profile backing for a Republican contender so far.

“I am greatly honored to receive Sarah’s endorsement,” Mr. Trump said in a statement trumpeting Mrs. Palin’s decision. “She is a friend, and a high-quality person whom I have great respect for. I am proud to have her support.”


Source

Does this make Trump the Tea Party candidate now?


bahaha. this is golden, the main reason (and liability to his campaign) mccain lost in '08 endorses trump.

a match made in heaven!


How did this ever become a narrative? McCain had a 0.5% chance of winning the election pre-convention, which became something like 1.5% post-convention, and proceeded back to 0.0001% (approximately equal to the chance that Obama committed a felony on the campaign trail, or had a major felony, not drugs, revealed with near 100% certainty) once the economy truly died in October 2008. Sarah Palin was never great, and had one interview that made her look pretty bad, but no one votes for VPs anyways, and she was nothing resembling the weirdo-idiot pre-election that she was post-election.

Like, Palin is a goofball, but McCain never had a chance, and what little chance he had was because of her exciting-ness, and what little damage she did by being a bad interviewer was outweighed 100-fold by the bad economy.

Tough sell calling Palin the reason for the ticket loss. McCain was dead and Palin restored a faint heartbeat. All this notwithstanding her speaking and joking style, and all this before post-elections antics.

I don't think Trump can play solid evangelical with his record. The best voters can hope for is no antipathy towards religion.


Luckily for Trump, the gaggles of clickbait-article writing pundits and would-be pundits have so thoroughly numbed and/or immunized the voters to believing what they say about him that he could post a vine of him shitting on the Bible to his twitter feed and people would believe it was all a leftist media hoax. His antipathy is sealed in stone because he says it and that's enough for his base.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8685 Posts
January 19 2016 23:42 GMT
#55282
On January 20 2016 08:36 ticklishmusic wrote:
he probably promised to make her secretary of state or appoint her to some other position she's comparably unqualified for


maybe she has another book in the pipeline?
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
January 19 2016 23:42 GMT
#55283
Trump is quite explicitly being his arrogant reality-TV self on the campaign trail all this time. He's hiding nothing and that's what makes his success so far so amazing.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22050 Posts
January 20 2016 00:07 GMT
#55284
On January 20 2016 08:33 Introvert wrote:
By "real Trump" I mean, not so much that Trump himself is changing, but that some people with positive (or at least non-negative) feelings about him are perhaps slowing figuring out who he is. I don't think that every Trump supporter is so die-hard as to not take a closer look.

Or put another way, I don't see how Palin could refrain from endorsing him before, but feels confident enough to do so now. What changed recently? Certainly nothing positive, to a conservative.

Your seriously underestimating the amount of stupid and willful ignorance at the bottom of the Republican barrel if you think this will make anyone think twice about Trump that did not already do so before.

It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-20 00:16:44
January 20 2016 00:15 GMT
#55285
On January 19 2016 15:57 cLutZ wrote:
Mormonism is also much less international, even though they have missions. Even though in some ways Mormons can be seen as agents for social conservatism, it is very much an american religion that gave up on polygamy after some pressure, became an integrated church, and now is one of the laziest religions at opposing gay marriage now that it is where it is. I really don't think they compare well with Islam at all because of the lack of Islam really being associated with one country and continually adapting to that one country.


Mormonism originates in the US, but well less than half its current members live in the US now. Chile has 60% more Mormons per capita than the US. It's increasingly international, and is spread among far more nation states than Islam was at its 150 year mark.

Although, yes, at this time, it is more centralized than Islam currently is.

In regard to the other point, it allowed black involvement way later than any other large American church. My own Presbyterian denomination has had black ministers for two hundred and twenty years. Baptists even longer. Mormonism didn't allow black men full participation in the church, even as laity, until 1978. This is embarrassing by any stretch. But it's different from Islam, which has always been theoretically pro-equality, so I guess there's that.

On January 19 2016 19:55 Danglars wrote:
Yes, in that way it's all just facets of liberal theology. Atheist ministers, ordained practicing gay ministers, and on down the list.


Yeah there is no equivalence between atheism and being gay as a minister. No branch of Christianity is atheistic... plenty are quite okay with being gay. If you had anti-gay theology and gay ministers, then maybe. But lots of branches of Christianity believe (I think rightly) that the Bible has no condemnation for loving committed gay couples.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 20 2016 00:47 GMT
#55286
Former Alaska governor and 2008 Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin endorsed Donald Trump for president while in Iowa on Tuesday.

"You are ready to make America great again!" she told a beaming Trump.

Palin rallied supporters, telling them that he would "kick ISIS' ass" and not "apologize" for America.

"He's going rogue left and right," she said. "That's why he's doing so well."

The New York Times first reported news of the announcement on Tuesday afternoon.

Palin is a longtime supporter of Trump, and even backed his controversial call for a "complete shutdown" of Muslims entering the United States. Back in August, Palin raved about the businessman, praising him for "crushing it in the polls."

In July, Trump said he'd "love" having Palin work in his administration if he were elected president.


Source
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GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-20 01:17:48
January 20 2016 01:17 GMT
#55287
She couldn't wait till I place my bet on Trump winning the election
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-20 03:00:34
January 20 2016 02:55 GMT
#55288
Aaaaand Sarah Palin's son gets arrested for domestic abuse

Can't make this up folks

#familyvalues
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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
January 20 2016 03:02 GMT
#55289




Wow racist republican consultant losing it
rip passion
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
January 20 2016 03:24 GMT
#55290
On January 20 2016 11:55 ticklishmusic wrote:
Aaaaand Sarah Palin's son gets arrested for domestic abuse

Can't make this up folks

#familyvalues


Oh great we get to start hearing about Palin's family again.

fml
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
January 20 2016 03:27 GMT
#55291
On January 20 2016 11:55 ticklishmusic wrote:
Aaaaand Sarah Palin's son gets arrested for domestic abuse

Can't make this up folks

#familyvalues


are you serious?!
LOL
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
January 20 2016 03:42 GMT
#55292
Man that family is the gift that keeps on giving. Daughter is a professional creampie catcher and hypocrite, son beats his gf and brandishes a gun, mom is obviously a mental defective. Wasn't there something about a drunken shit show with the entire clan of idiots a year or two ago?
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Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-20 03:59:25
January 20 2016 03:58 GMT
#55293
On January 20 2016 12:02 Deathstar wrote:
https://twitter.com/joshgreenman/status/689622837385125888

https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/689623605341208580

Wow racist republican consultant losing it

Googling tells me that anime and manga are both Japanese cartoons/comics, or am I missing something?

Where is the racism exactly.
Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
January 20 2016 04:04 GMT
#55294
On January 20 2016 12:42 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Man that family is the gift that keeps on giving. Daughter is a professional creampie catcher and hypocrite, son beats his gf and brandishes a gun, mom is obviously a mental defective. Wasn't there something about a drunken shit show with the entire clan of idiots a year or two ago?


Wait, are you against or in favor of respecting women?
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-20 04:10:49
January 20 2016 04:08 GMT
#55295
Funny thing manga / anime crowd is probably the most liberal there is. A lot of Asian / European, young, highly educated, a lot of tech sector.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 20 2016 04:09 GMT
#55296
On January 20 2016 12:58 Chewbacca. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 12:02 Deathstar wrote:
https://twitter.com/joshgreenman/status/689622837385125888

https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/689623605341208580

Wow racist republican consultant losing it

Googling tells me that anime and manga are both Japanese cartoons/comics, or am I missing something?

Where is the racism exactly.

Well. #1. Its Hentai.
#2. Who is that guy?
#3. Who is he "quoting"?
#4. Who is the other guy?
#5. Who cares?
Freeeeeeedom
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-20 04:16:33
January 20 2016 04:13 GMT
#55297
On January 20 2016 13:09 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 12:58 Chewbacca. wrote:
On January 20 2016 12:02 Deathstar wrote:
https://twitter.com/joshgreenman/status/689622837385125888

https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/689623605341208580

Wow racist republican consultant losing it

Googling tells me that anime and manga are both Japanese cartoons/comics, or am I missing something?

Where is the racism exactly.

Well. #1. Its Hentai.
#2. Who is that guy?
#3. Who is he "quoting"?
#4. Who is the other guy?
#5. Who cares?

I guess I don't know anything about Hentai vs Manga vs Anime

No idea
No idea
No idea -- Maybe I need to retread when I'm not half drunk as I only see Twitter posts from two people, not three.
I assumed it was something of relevance since it was posted.
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
January 20 2016 04:18 GMT
#55298
He's talking about a portion of the Republican base, the alt right, who are behind Trump. Other guy is a new york daily writer and doesn't matter. There's a lot of drama within the Republican party which is fun.

rip passion
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11385 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-20 04:29:09
January 20 2016 04:27 GMT
#55299
Apparently Rick Wilson is a GOP establishment strategist- started under George HW Bush, trained under Lee Atwood and produced a ton of attack ads. (He was responsible some of the ads going after Obama's old pastor: "Barack Obama followed a preacher of hate.)

He hates Trump and had been flaming the Trump campaign and his supporters for some time now.
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
January 20 2016 04:48 GMT
#55300
On January 20 2016 13:04 Soap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 12:42 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Man that family is the gift that keeps on giving. Daughter is a professional creampie catcher and hypocrite, son beats his gf and brandishes a gun, mom is obviously a mental defective. Wasn't there something about a drunken shit show with the entire clan of idiots a year or two ago?


Wait, are you against or in favor of respecting women?


What?

On January 20 2016 13:18 Deathstar wrote:
He's talking about a portion of the Republican base, the alt right, who are behind Trump. Other guy is a new york daily writer and doesn't matter. There's a lot of drama within the Republican party which is fun.


Is this alt right thing not just a ironic meme? I can't keep up with all this anymore.
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