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On January 13 2016 23:20 Seuss wrote: Politics has become too much of a sport. Punditry at this point is barely distinguishable from Sportscenter except the latter actually deals with substance sometimes.
Nah other way around. Politics is the sport with mostly substance.
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I didn't say there wasn't substance in Politics, I said there wasn't substance in Punditry.
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I don't know what you're watching or reading but political pudintry is not like sportscenter. Sportscenter is mind-numbing nonsense about teams trading athletes. Political pudintry, almost by definition, is more substantive than sports pudintry.
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On January 14 2016 00:02 Deathstar wrote: I don't know what you're watching or reading but political pundintry is not like sportscenter. Sportscenter is mind-numbing nonsense about teams trading athletes. Political pundintry, almost by definitionin theory, is more substantive than sports pundintry.
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(also put in "Ns" into "pudintry" lol)
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Thanks . Punditry is throwing me off haha.
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Both have sadly devolved into mostly infotainment sadly. The degree to which politics has is quite impressive given the lead that sports had.
EDIT: Sailors are out of Iran. Is anyone honestly surprised that there was any other outcome?
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Literally zero surprise. Zero reason for Iraq to take/attack/capture those sailors or boats.
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One of the highlights from yesterday's SOTU speech.
Food Stamp recipients didn’t cause the financial crisis; recklessness on Wall Street did. Immigrants aren’t the reason wages haven’t gone up enough; those decisions are made in the boardrooms that too often put quarterly earnings over long-term returns. It’s sure not the average family watching tonight that avoids paying taxes through offshore accounts.
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On January 14 2016 00:23 ticklishmusic wrote: Both have sadly devolved into mostly infotainment sadly. The degree to which politics has is quite impressive given the lead that sports had.
EDIT: Sailors are out of Iran. Is anyone honestly surprised that there was any other outcome? And this is what happens when you treat Iran like a reasonable nation rather than constantly threatening to nuke them.
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John Kerry is doing a pretty great job lately.
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He is very good at the job and puts in the hours to deal with other nations like Iran. And seems to have gotten to message to congress that casually calling out/threatening military action again Iran on the news is really harmful. That alone is an impressive feat.
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Can't help but wonder if another presidential bid may be a good idea down the road.
edit: apparently he's 72. maybe not o.0
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iran is still pretty bad at the whole sponsoring terrorism thing but as long as it's in the region...
rapprochement is like betting that the other side is not literally hitler.
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On January 14 2016 03:04 oneofthem wrote: iran is still pretty bad at the whole sponsoring terrorism thing but as long as it's in the region...
rapprochement is like betting that the other side is not literally hitler. In as much as we've branded all the groups they like and we don't terrorists, yes. But they're no worse than America is in that regard. That's just how international politics works. America has supported their fair share of shitty groups in the past and still does, particularly in the Middle East. But Iran is certainly no Saudi Arabia.
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Heyoh guys, how is the Sanders - Clinton battle shaping up? edit : and how is the Republican primary really shaping up? Here in France we mostly hear about TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP, but what are his actual chances - at the primary, not at the presidency should he win the primary ?
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On January 14 2016 03:04 oneofthem wrote: iran is still pretty bad at the whole sponsoring terrorism thing but as long as it's in the region...
rapprochement is like betting that the other side is not literally hitler. You mean like sponsoring the overthrowing of a democratically elected government so they can install their own puppet dictator.
Oh wait no that's why the US did to Iran. Woops silly me.
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On January 14 2016 03:11 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2016 03:04 oneofthem wrote: iran is still pretty bad at the whole sponsoring terrorism thing but as long as it's in the region...
rapprochement is like betting that the other side is not literally hitler. You mean like sponsoring the overthrowing of a democratically elected government so they can install their own puppet dictator. Oh wait no that's why the US did to Iran. Woops silly me. was not aware the u.s. is still stuck in the 1980's.
On January 14 2016 03:09 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2016 03:04 oneofthem wrote: iran is still pretty bad at the whole sponsoring terrorism thing but as long as it's in the region...
rapprochement is like betting that the other side is not literally hitler. In as much as we've branded all the groups they like and we don't terrorists, yes. But they're no worse than America is in that regard. That's just how international politics works. America has supported their fair share of shitty groups in the past and still does, particularly in the Middle East. But Iran is certainly no Saudi Arabia.
let's be serious here, iran's terrorists are about as legit as they come besides saudi terrorists, but yea it's the way they do thinsg around those parts.
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On January 14 2016 03:19 oneofthem wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2016 03:11 Gorsameth wrote:On January 14 2016 03:04 oneofthem wrote: iran is still pretty bad at the whole sponsoring terrorism thing but as long as it's in the region...
rapprochement is like betting that the other side is not literally hitler. You mean like sponsoring the overthrowing of a democratically elected government so they can install their own puppet dictator. Oh wait no that's why the US did to Iran. Woops silly me. was not aware the u.s. is still stuck in the 1980's. Then you haven't been paying much attention have you. Remind me again when the US moved to repair relations with Cuba and Iran and who protested against that?
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Arguably until after Bush it was and reps seem to look back at the time with favourable memories.
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On January 14 2016 03:19 oneofthem wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2016 03:11 Gorsameth wrote:On January 14 2016 03:04 oneofthem wrote: iran is still pretty bad at the whole sponsoring terrorism thing but as long as it's in the region...
rapprochement is like betting that the other side is not literally hitler. You mean like sponsoring the overthrowing of a democratically elected government so they can install their own puppet dictator. Oh wait no that's why the US did to Iran. Woops silly me. was not aware the u.s. is still stuck in the 1980's. And this is the main problem with the US public and our relationship to other nations. They have a longer memory than the last 10-15 years. And they do not by the “it was the Cold War” excuse. And since we are still hostile toward Iran, its easy to see why they haven’t changed their view.
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