US Politics Mega-thread - Page 2735

On January 14 2016 05:01 Deathstar wrote:


Clinton needs a back hand smack to the face

On January 14 2016 05:03 Plansix wrote:

Clinton was all about the single payer system until she received a couple million in speaking fees from health care providers.

CORALVILLE, Iowa —Jeb Bush called Tuesday for a “leader with a servant’s heart.”

“We need a nominee who knows it’s not all about him,” the one-time GOP front-runner said.

But, increasingly, establishment Republicans worry that Bush’s campaign is little more than an ego trip. With the former Florida governor now sitting stagnant in the middle of the pack and his super PAC ratcheting up its attacks on Marco Rubio, a growing number of Republican centrists are coming to view Bush’s campaign as a distraction — one that could hurt their ability to keep the nomination away from Donald Trump and Ted Cruz.

On Monday, the Right to Rise PAC hit the early state airwaves with an ad skewering Bush’s former protégé for flipping on immigration—an issue on which he and Bush actually agree. And on Tuesday, the group unleashed a second ad that portrayed Rubio as a flip-flopper and mocked his heeled boots.

These attacks aim to clear some space for Bush in the establishment lane of this sprawling primary fight with the Iowa caucuses just weeks away. But to those who no longer believe Bush can win the Republican nomination, his super PAC, with tens of millions of dollars left to spend, looks more like a wrecking ball meant to lay waste to the one contender many Bush donors see as the last remaining mainstream alternative to Trump or Cruz.

“This is something Jeb Bush has to decide. Does he want his legacy to be that he elected Donald Trump or Ted Cruz?” said Stuart Stevens, the GOP strategist who ran Mitt Romney’s 2012 campaign. “He can’t control that super PAC but he ought to call on the super PAC to stop and stop attacking people with whom he mostly agrees.”

Bush’s White House bid hit rock bottom in late October, after his own botched attack on Rubio during an October debate underlined the perilousness for Bush in attacking his one-time ally. Now, many establishment Republicans, including a growing number of Bush supporters, are frustrated that his super PAC is intent on doing the same thing.

On January 14 2016 05:01 Deathstar wrote:


Clinton needs a back hand smack to the face

https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/687317650658189312

On January 14 2016 05:10 cLutZ wrote:


Please, she still is. She's just under the impression that running Romney's 2012 strategy from the left will get her the White House.

On January 14 2016 05:14 Deathstar wrote:
Why is Jeb Bush still in this race? He should take his guacamole recipe and start a mexican restaurant instead.

Also, I hope dirt on Chelsea Clinton starts popping up. If you're going to send your daughter to do your campaign work she's fair game.

On January 14 2016 05:14 Deathstar wrote:
Why is Jeb Bush still in this race? He should take his guacamole recipe and start a mexican restaurant instead.

Also, I hope dirt on Chelsea Clinton starts popping up. If you're going to send your daughter to do your campaign work she's fair game.

Barack Obama promised an overhaul of coal mining on public lands on Tuesday, delivering a major blow to the ailing industry.

In his final State of the Union address, the US president said he would push for changes to the leasing of public lands for oil, coal and gas leases at cut-rate prices, saying: “Rather than subsidize the past, we should invest in the future.”

The move follows a listening tour last year by Sally Jewell, the interior secretary, during which she explored leasing programmes on public lands and the collapse of the coal mining industry due to low prices.

Environmental groups had planned major campaigns around the government’s leasing programme for 2016, arguing that continued fossil fuel extraction on public lands was undermining Obama’s efforts to fight climate change.

After insisting in his first term on an “all of the above” energy policy that promoted expansion of oil, gas and coal, Obama now appears to agree with scientists who say catastrophic climate change cannot be avoided without strict limits on fossil fuel extraction.

“I’m going to push to change the way we manage our oil and coal resources, so that they better reflect the costs they impose on taxpayers and our planet,” he said in the speech.

The overhaul comes amid collapsing global prices for coal – which have had a big impact on the government’s lease programme. The government had to put off lease sales involving some 2bn tonnes of coal over the last year because companies were unwilling to buy.

The White House said in an email it would provide further details in the coming weeks, adding: “The President underscored the need to accelerate our transition to low-carbon economy by changing how we manage our oil and coal resources.”

Campaign groups have long accused Obama of having a blind spot when it came to the mining of fossil fuels on public lands.

On January 14 2016 05:14 Deathstar wrote:
Why is Jeb Bush still in this race? He should take his guacamole recipe and start a mexican restaurant instead.

Also, I hope dirt on Chelsea Clinton starts popping up. If you're going to send your daughter to do your campaign work she's fair game.

On January 14 2016 05:17 Plansix wrote:

She also was receiving money from private prisons up until it became impossible to be a Democrat and take money from. I am not a fan of a lot of the groups she is receiving money from.



TBH, that is super gross. Peoples family should be able to participle and support their parents without the world trying to destroy them. I accept that some people are going to do some digging, but wishing it would happen is gross.

On January 14 2016 05:54 Deathstar wrote:

Chelsea Clinton talking about how great her mom is is different from Chelsea Clinton attacking other political candidates. There's a distinction IMO and one makes her deserving as a target.

On January 14 2016 05:54 Deathstar wrote:

Chelsea Clinton talking about how great her mom is is different from Chelsea Clinton attacking other political candidates. There's a distinction IMO and one makes her deserving as a target.

On January 14 2016 05:54 Deathstar wrote:

Chelsea Clinton talking about how great her mom is is different from Chelsea Clinton attacking other political candidates. There's a distinction IMO and one makes her deserving as a target.

On January 14 2016 06:59 Gorsameth wrote:

One of the main problems with American elections in a nutshell.
Attacking characters instead of arguing over solutions is what got it stuck in the hole it is in.

On January 14 2016 05:43 Doublemint wrote:
attack ads like this one from jeb's super pac.

+ Show Spoiler +

come on, they aren't even trying anymore!

On January 14 2016 07:06 Simberto wrote:


That is...weird. Does that sort of thing actually have effect on anyone?


All the obvious flaws aside, I really don't get this american obsession with "flip flopping". When has "changing your mind" become a bad thing to do? Are americans always right at everything the first time they talk about it? If new information arises and it turns out that your previous position was bad, should you try to change the evidence as opposed to your own stance? Should you try to force a square peg through a round shape, just because you thought it might fit when you were really drunk?

On January 14 2016 07:10 Gorsameth wrote:

But its often not a change of mind because of new facts. It is to show someone does not actually believe what they say and just say whatever people want to hear. Which is ironic since practically every politician does it, Europe is no different in that tbh.