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Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
January 13 2016 03:11 GMT
#54621
The idea that you have to stand and applause for every statement that you agree with is what makes the State of the Union Address so unbearable...
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
January 13 2016 03:18 GMT
#54622
On January 13 2016 12:02 xDaunt wrote:
This speech is his entire presidency in 60 minutes. It encapsulates perfectly the essence of what the past seven years have been.

If by that you mean "Obama is the adult in the room while Republicans oppose virtually everything he says and proposes", then yes, that's a fair assessment.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 13 2016 03:18 GMT
#54623
Yeah but then there's voting rights, fighting terrorism, education, not discriminating against beliefs getting in this country. Then your just petty and vindictive.

Obama has pretty much realized that the political dumbing down of this country is reality.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 13 2016 03:24 GMT
#54624
Here comes Nikki Haley.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-13 03:35:51
January 13 2016 03:33 GMT
#54625
The reaction to her response so far:





Also how was she talking but her teeth barely move.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4951 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-13 03:39:29
January 13 2016 03:37 GMT
#54626
On January 13 2016 12:02 xDaunt wrote:
This is the epitome of a lame duck State of the Union speech. It is petulance and condescension on parade. Obama isn't even trying to offer policy goals. He's just lecturing. This speech is his entire presidency in 60 minutes. It encapsulates perfectly the essence of what the past seven years have been.

Perfectly put.

Edit: Especially the part in bold.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Ravianna26
Profile Joined March 2013
United States44 Posts
January 13 2016 03:38 GMT
#54627
I didn't watch the state of the union address. I think the only time I listened to Obama speak was the day Osama Bin Laden was killed.
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
January 13 2016 03:42 GMT
#54628
Obama speeches are generally good.
rip passion
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
January 13 2016 03:49 GMT
#54629
That was a pretty great speech. The Republican women looks like a ventriloquist
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 13 2016 03:53 GMT
#54630
I like the people calling out non-applausers for random lines. As if they were not listening to Beethoven or The Who in an earpiece. The SOTU is the middle school assembly of Congress, and not the cool pep rally ones with cheerleaders, the one where the Principal explains the student handbook and then brings out a motivational speaker who is a sweaty 45 year old bald guy.
Freeeeeeedom
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-13 03:59:33
January 13 2016 03:59 GMT
#54631
Rumor is that Obama wants to be Secretary General of the UN after he leaves the presidency. I'm all for it. I'd love for nothing else than to inflict Obama and his awful lecturing upon the assholes of the world.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
January 13 2016 04:02 GMT
#54632
On January 13 2016 12:59 xDaunt wrote:
Rumor is that Obama wants to be Secretary General of the UN after he leaves the presidency. I'm all for it. I'd love for nothing else than to inflict Obama and his awful lecturing upon the assholes of the world.


But he'd have to explain why he sold so many weapons to Saudi Arabia...
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-13 05:30:23
January 13 2016 04:05 GMT
#54633
On January 13 2016 12:59 xDaunt wrote:
Rumor is that Obama wants to be Secretary General of the UN after he leaves the presidency. I'm all for it. I'd love for nothing else than to inflict Obama and his awful lecturing upon the assholes of the world.

I don't think the Republican presidential candidates would listen to the Secretary General of the UN.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 13 2016 04:42 GMT
#54634
Surprise of the night. Chris Matthews and Chuck Todd calling out DWS and the Democratic Party of the debate schedule.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JW_DTLA
Profile Joined December 2015
242 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-13 05:56:10
January 13 2016 05:55 GMT
#54635
On January 13 2016 13:42 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Surprise of the night. Chris Matthews and Chuck Todd calling out DWS and the Democratic Party of the debate schedule.


The organization that pays them (Chris/Chuck) lost money because of that sloppy scheduling. The Republican debates are big ratings draws. The Dem debates are stinkers and can't sell ads because they are at bad times.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23947 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-13 06:02:07
January 13 2016 06:01 GMT
#54636
On January 13 2016 14:55 JW_DTLA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2016 13:42 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Surprise of the night. Chris Matthews and Chuck Todd calling out DWS and the Democratic Party of the debate schedule.


The organization that pays them (Chris/Chuck) lost money because of that sloppy scheduling. The Republican debates are big ratings draws. The Dem debates are stinkers and can't sell ads because they are at bad times.


That and they've been losing credibility (particularly Chris, Chuck plays things pretty straight up even if he pretends to be naive about some stuff) Chris however was basically called out for blatantly playing to Hillary so he could get her network to support his wife's run for office.

He's still doing it hence putting it on DWS like she hasn't been in Hillary's pocket since before she got the position. What we see there is Hillary throwing DWS under the bus, to try to give credibility to the incredible idea that this was all DWS.

But they are only bad sellers in comparison to Trump debates, The most watched democratic debate ever was this cycle.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 13 2016 06:20 GMT
#54637
On January 13 2016 15:01 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2016 14:55 JW_DTLA wrote:
On January 13 2016 13:42 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Surprise of the night. Chris Matthews and Chuck Todd calling out DWS and the Democratic Party of the debate schedule.


The organization that pays them (Chris/Chuck) lost money because of that sloppy scheduling. The Republican debates are big ratings draws. The Dem debates are stinkers and can't sell ads because they are at bad times.


That and they've been losing credibility (particularly Chris, Chuck plays things pretty straight up even if he pretends to be naive about some stuff) Chris however was basically called out for blatantly playing to Hillary so he could get her network to support his wife's run for office.

He's still doing it hence putting it on DWS like she hasn't been in Hillary's pocket since before she got the position. What we see there is Hillary throwing DWS under the bus, to try to give credibility to the incredible idea that this was all DWS.

But they are only bad sellers in comparison to Trump debates, The most watched democratic debate ever was this cycle.


Matthews seems to have been shaken from his stupor of the 2012 cycle and returned to being a top 5 interviewer/commentator. He's incessantly asking leaders of the Democratic party (Shumer, DWS, Hillary) what the difference is between a Democrat (he fancies himself a Kennedy/LBJ/Tipp Dem) and a Socialist, he's doing actual pieces on things other than "Republican obstructionism" and questioning the guests he brings on (although he really needs to find a competent Republican other than Michael Steele, all of MSNBC does).
Freeeeeeedom
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8744 Posts
January 13 2016 07:11 GMT
#54638
always interesting to have opinions from the resident republicans

and lol at ryan only getting up for the military ^^
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 13 2016 14:12 GMT
#54639
Paul Ryan struggling not to laugh was pretty great.

And the fact that we discuss presidential debates as “ratings draws” and ad revenue without even thinking that is a bad sign shows a special case of stockholm syndrome.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
January 13 2016 14:20 GMT
#54640
Politics has become too much of a sport. Punditry at this point is barely distinguishable from Sportscenter except the latter actually deals with substance sometimes.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
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