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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
January 11 2016 16:25 GMT
#54541
he's also a megalomaniac who defines himself with glamour, class, success.

it's not about the money of course, though with such assholes like trump you never know. it's about the signal that he is not untouchable anymore.

just wait for his next stupid move
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22610 Posts
January 11 2016 16:28 GMT
#54542
Trump is currently entertaining the masses, the lowest of the masses even I would say (racists, bigots and all that fun stuff) and you think its news that this hurts his image among the high society?
Wow who knew...
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 11 2016 16:43 GMT
#54543
On January 12 2016 01:18 Deathstar wrote:
He's a 60 year old billionaire. What is money to him at this point.


To people like Trump, net worth is self-worth.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-11 16:49:09
January 11 2016 16:48 GMT
#54544
On January 12 2016 01:18 Deathstar wrote:
He's a 60 year old billionaire. What is money to him at this point.


He's also an American, some might say a proto-American, so everything.

| (• ◡•)|╯ ╰(❍ᴥ❍ʋ)
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
January 11 2016 16:52 GMT
#54545
2.24 pure glory XD
Dating thread on TL LUL
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 11 2016 16:58 GMT
#54546
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
January 11 2016 18:27 GMT
#54547
On January 11 2016 15:26 Zooper31 wrote:
I haven't visited this thread since Obama got elected for his 2nd term.

I still can't believe Trump is still running and is so far ahead for the republican nomination that he actually has a chance at winning.

This has to be some sort of horrible distorted reality like the movie Idiocracy. He is such a hate filled, racist, rich pompus asshole and he's actually popular!

Hope!
Change!
Yes we can!
I'll show everyone how not racist I am by voting for a black guy!
Change! Change! Change! Hope! Hope! Hope! Yes we can!
He'll close down Guantanamo! Get our troops back! World peace!
No more racism ever! It's a new era!
Yes we can!

People would vote for someone without a platform and only soundbites? Shocking!
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
January 11 2016 18:45 GMT
#54548
On January 12 2016 03:27 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2016 15:26 Zooper31 wrote:
I haven't visited this thread since Obama got elected for his 2nd term.

I still can't believe Trump is still running and is so far ahead for the republican nomination that he actually has a chance at winning.

This has to be some sort of horrible distorted reality like the movie Idiocracy. He is such a hate filled, racist, rich pompus asshole and he's actually popular!

Hope!
Change!
Yes we can!
I'll show everyone how not racist I am by voting for a black guy!
Change! Change! Change! Hope! Hope! Hope! Yes we can!
He'll close down Guantanamo! Get our troops back! World peace!
No more racism ever! It's a new era!
Yes we can!

People would vote for someone without a platform and only soundbites? Shocking!


At least Obama's soundbites were uplifting and positive. And McCain/Romney were not exactly challenging titans, so I didn't need any extra incentive to "not be racist" and vote for Obama.

Sure, he's been a mediocre president at best, but I am still confident he was better than any of the alternatives. I could have accepted McCain with a real human for a running mate, but alas.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 11 2016 18:53 GMT
#54549
As the armed siege of an eastern Oregon wildlife refuge entered its second week, the rightwing militia faced increasing pressure to surrender – including from former supporters of the occupation’s leader.

Ammon Bundy, the Nevada rancher who organized the takeover of the Malheur national wildlife refuge headquarters, avoided reporters all weekend as some of the protesters began to leave the occupation and as local residents and activists who had previously backed Bundy demanded that he and his militiamen retreat.

“We’re gonna figure some way to get him out,” Travis Williams, a 46-year-old Harney County rancher, told the Guardian Saturday night. Williams had met and collaborated with Bundy last month in advance of a large rally to protest the prosecution and imprisonment of local cattle ranchers Dwight Hammond and his son, Steven. But he and other local allies of Bundy were shocked when Bundy and fellow out-of-state men hijacked the protests and formed a heavily armed militia that seized a number of buildings at the federal wildlife sanctuary, located 30 miles away from the town of Burns.

By Friday night, Williams and other Harney County residents who were previously aligned with Bundy were publicly requesting that the Nevada rancher and the rest of the occupiers leave the refuge and allow community representatives to take over the cause of fighting for increased local control of federally managed lands.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-11 18:57:23
January 11 2016 18:57 GMT
#54550
On January 12 2016 03:45 ZasZ. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2016 03:27 zeo wrote:
On January 11 2016 15:26 Zooper31 wrote:
I haven't visited this thread since Obama got elected for his 2nd term.

I still can't believe Trump is still running and is so far ahead for the republican nomination that he actually has a chance at winning.

This has to be some sort of horrible distorted reality like the movie Idiocracy. He is such a hate filled, racist, rich pompus asshole and he's actually popular!

Hope!
Change!
Yes we can!
I'll show everyone how not racist I am by voting for a black guy!
Change! Change! Change! Hope! Hope! Hope! Yes we can!
He'll close down Guantanamo! Get our troops back! World peace!
No more racism ever! It's a new era!
Yes we can!

People would vote for someone without a platform and only soundbites? Shocking!


At least Obama's soundbites were uplifting and positive. And McCain/Romney were not exactly challenging titans, so I didn't need any extra incentive to "not be racist" and vote for Obama.

Sure, he's been a mediocre president at best, but I am still confident he was better than any of the alternatives. I could have accepted McCain with a real human for a running mate, but alas.


http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/obama-biggest-achievements-213487

Wildly biased?
Very different from what he campaigned on?
But did he accomplish things?

Yes to all of the above.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
January 11 2016 19:22 GMT
#54551
all the southern states sucking on disability benefit tits would disagree.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
January 11 2016 22:11 GMT
#54552
Wait, the next Democratic debate is this weekend during the NFL playoffs?

:|
Writer
CannonsNCarriers
Profile Joined April 2010
United States638 Posts
January 11 2016 22:17 GMT
#54553
On January 12 2016 07:11 Souma wrote:
Wait, the next Democratic debate is this weekend during the NFL playoffs?

:|


Toss DSW, toss her now. Literally worst DNC chair ever from the perspective of basic political strategy.
Dun tuch my cheezbrgr
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
January 11 2016 22:22 GMT
#54554
Maybe she's actually a Bernie supporter and this is her way of ensuring that the Bernie base gets riled up and turns out for the vote.
Writer
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
January 11 2016 22:32 GMT
#54555
On January 12 2016 07:22 Souma wrote:
Maybe she's actually a Bernie supporter and this is her way of ensuring that the Bernie base gets riled up and turns out for the vote.


Genius! she's been in deep cover as a Clinton supporter all her life! I bet she purposefully sabotaged the '08 Hillary campaign too when she was the co-chair.
can i get my estro logo back pls
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 11 2016 22:59 GMT
#54556
Billionaire climate activist Tom Steyer pressed Barack Obama on Monday to go out with a bang and make global warming central to the message of his last State of the Union address.

In a conference call with reporters, Steyer said the speech offered one of the last high-visibility moments for Obama to make his case to the American public for a transformation of the US energy and climate system.

The last year was a banner year for climate change – with the Paris climate agreement, the rejection of the Keystone XL pipeline, an effective ban on Arctic drilling, and the finalisation of rules cutting carbon pollution from power plants, Steyer told the call.

“This is a great opportunity to make that case and make sure that the moves we made are decisive and irrevocable,” Steyer said. “He is obviously not going to get specific climate legislation through by the end of his administration … This is a chance for him to really address Americans and explain to them what he has been doing, why it still needs to be done, and why it is so important.”

On Monday, Steyer’s NextGen Climate teamed up with fellow activists Van Jones, founder of Green for All and briefly green jobs adviser for Obama; Mona Mangat, board chair of Doctors for America; and Michael Breen, chief executive of the Truman national security project, for the release of a new report casting climate change as a threat to national security and public welfare.

“To truly address poverty, we must address climate change once and for all. The economic burden of climate change will not be shouldered by all families equally,” the report Threat Multiplier: Climate Change and the State of Our Union, said.

The report extends the idea first embraced by the Pentagon nearly a decade ago that global warming deepened existing risks to the international order. (By 2014, the Pentagon had elevated climate change as an “immediate risk” to national security and its infrastructure).

It points out the public health risks posed by air pollution, water shortages and drought – all of which will be exacerbated by climate change, and notes the Pentagon’s concerns about national security.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
January 11 2016 23:22 GMT
#54557
On January 12 2016 03:27 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2016 15:26 Zooper31 wrote:
I haven't visited this thread since Obama got elected for his 2nd term.

I still can't believe Trump is still running and is so far ahead for the republican nomination that he actually has a chance at winning.

This has to be some sort of horrible distorted reality like the movie Idiocracy. He is such a hate filled, racist, rich pompus asshole and he's actually popular!

Hope!
Change!
Yes we can!
I'll show everyone how not racist I am by voting for a black guy!
Change! Change! Change! Hope! Hope! Hope! Yes we can!
He'll close down Guantanamo! Get our troops back! World peace!
No more racism ever! It's a new era!
Yes we can!

People would vote for someone without a platform and only soundbites? Shocking!


That has literally nothing to do with what I posted about at all. Yes I voted for Obama, no I didn't vote for him expecting to end racism, how dumb could someone be to believe that?

As someone posted before at least Obama wasn't a unapologetic bigot. Though I'm sure some people believe he is. Trump is literally everything that is wrong with America wrapped in one single crazy rich guy with a really bad haircut.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 11 2016 23:45 GMT
#54558
Hillary Clinton today proposed a 4 percent surtax on the highest-earning Americans, as she seeks to boost taxes for the wealthiest Americans.

The proposal, which she announced in Iowa, would raise an estimated $150 billion over a decade, a Clinton aide said, and comes after the Democratic front-runner said that she would build on the so-called Buffett Rule that seeks to ensure that the middle class doesn't pay a higher tax rate than top earners.

The surtax would hit those with annual income of more than $5 million, and would affect roughly 0.02 percent of taxpayers.

Clinton is calling the plan a “fair share surcharge.” The Clinton aide cast the approach as a simple way to raise effective tax rates on the wealthiest, who can rely on tax planning and find ways to game the tax system.

The IRS recently announced that the 400 highest earners paid an average rate of less than 23 percent in 2013. They paid less than 17 percent in 2012, before the fiscal cliff deal raised taxes on the wealthy.

Clinton has said she will solely use tax hikes on the wealthy to pay for a variety of domestic initiatives, including expanded paid family leave. Her main rival, Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont, has called for a slight but broad increase in the payroll tax to boost family leave.

Clinton’s camp says she will roll out more proposals this week to force the wealthy to pay more in taxes.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
January 12 2016 00:12 GMT
#54559
The people with the most money are the ones with the most power. I don't see how that tax can possibly be passed under the state of our current system.
rip passion
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22610 Posts
January 12 2016 00:25 GMT
#54560
On January 12 2016 09:12 Deathstar wrote:
The people with the most money are the ones with the most power. I don't see how that tax can possibly be passed under the state of our current system.

Public opinion and the rich feeling they have to let it happen to take some steam off the anti-rich pressure.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
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