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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44316 Posts
January 11 2016 01:13 GMT
#54521
The GOP as a whole isn't for any of those things. Neither party is. They're coalitions of very diverse groups.
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
January 11 2016 02:03 GMT
#54522
On January 11 2016 10:06 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2016 09:26 Cowboy64 wrote:
On January 11 2016 08:50 TheTenthDoc wrote:
The minority majority is coming (eventually) and the group is growing pretty rapidly.


I think the solution for the GOP would be to shut down immigration and encourage more childbirths among their base by offering more jobs, better benefits, etc.

Hence Trump.


Except the GOP is for small government more benefits and better jobs at home goes against that theory and pro business ethos.

I don't think the GOP can be seriously for small government beyond the slogans. They're for big government with the GOP running it. See: Ryan budget, any number of omnibus, farm subsidies and general pork. The Tea Party revolution was for small government, the party hasn't been for some time now.

The standard bromides on benefits and the American worker are essentially bipartisan, though the plans aren't too similar.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 11 2016 02:23 GMT
#54523
On January 11 2016 11:03 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2016 10:06 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On January 11 2016 09:26 Cowboy64 wrote:
On January 11 2016 08:50 TheTenthDoc wrote:
The minority majority is coming (eventually) and the group is growing pretty rapidly.


I think the solution for the GOP would be to shut down immigration and encourage more childbirths among their base by offering more jobs, better benefits, etc.

Hence Trump.


Except the GOP is for small government more benefits and better jobs at home goes against that theory and pro business ethos.

I don't think the GOP can be seriously for small government beyond the slogans. They're for big government with the GOP running it. See: Ryan budget, any number of omnibus, farm subsidies and general pork. The Tea Party revolution was for small government, the party hasn't been for some time now.

The standard bromides on benefits and the American worker are essentially bipartisan, though the plans aren't too similar.


Which is why there has been the so called revolt. Party heads have preached (lied) about small government intentions while basically being cronyist, and really letting the government expand.
Freeeeeeedom
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
January 11 2016 03:13 GMT
#54524
hahah I love how the republican party has screwed itself into the situation they're in now with Donald Trump. He's fucked their shit up so hard.
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
January 11 2016 03:17 GMT
#54525
trump went on a rant about china and admiring kim jung un. dude is hilarious. maybe he should tell china to build a wall too since they're the experts
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 11 2016 03:19 GMT
#54526
On January 11 2016 12:17 Doraemon wrote:
trump went on a rant about china and admiring kim jung un. dude is hilarious. maybe he should tell china to build a wall too since they're the experts


They have something "better" than a wall between Nkorea and China. Barbed wire, a DMZ, and military outposts with KOS orders. And thats just within NKorea's own border.
Freeeeeeedom
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-11 03:26:25
January 11 2016 03:25 GMT
#54527
i don't think there is a DMZ in the china/nk border?

from memory it was barely secured with an easy to access river separating the two
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
January 11 2016 06:26 GMT
#54528
I haven't visited this thread since Obama got elected for his 2nd term.

I still can't believe Trump is still running and is so far ahead for the republican nomination that he actually has a chance at winning.

This has to be some sort of horrible distorted reality like the movie Idiocracy. He is such a hate filled, racist, rich pompus asshole and he's actually popular!
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
January 11 2016 07:02 GMT
#54529
Well, President Camacho can't be worse than trump. At least he understood that the other guy is much less of an idiot than he was.

Relevant:

http://flavorwire.com/537887/who-said-it-presidential-hopeful-donald-trump-or-idiocracy-president-camacho

As a side note, Terry Crews is amazing.
On track to MA1950A.
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-11 09:14:27
January 11 2016 09:09 GMT
#54530
On January 11 2016 12:19 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2016 12:17 Doraemon wrote:
trump went on a rant about china and admiring kim jung un. dude is hilarious. maybe he should tell china to build a wall too since they're the experts


They have something "better" than a wall between Nkorea and China. Barbed wire, a DMZ, and military outposts with KOS orders. And thats just within NKorea's own border.

The China-North Korea border is fairly porous; China now has its own "undocumented worker" problem with North Korean laborers.

On the subject of China, the recent stock market crash has me worried. If China goes into recession, it may affect both Europe and the United States, with less-than-predictable effects on the election cycle.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 11 2016 14:38 GMT
#54531
The stock market in China is more a symptom than a cause( even moreso than in the US) because only a small fraction of national wealth flows through it. It's nasty, but I think the US is relatively immune. What I'm really worried about is all those subprime construction loans... all the ghost cities in China were built with leverage and it's coming back to haunt them.
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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
January 11 2016 14:39 GMT
#54532
On January 11 2016 23:38 ticklishmusic wrote:
The stock market in China is more a symptom than a cause( even moreso than in the US) because only a small fraction of national wealth flows through it. It's nasty, but I think the US is relatively immune. What I'm really worried about is all those subprime construction loans... all the ghost cities in China were built with leverage and it's coming back to haunt them.


it's almost like they had a blueprint.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 11 2016 14:44 GMT
#54533
On January 11 2016 23:39 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2016 23:38 ticklishmusic wrote:
The stock market in China is more a symptom than a cause( even moreso than in the US) because only a small fraction of national wealth flows through it. It's nasty, but I think the US is relatively immune. What I'm really worried about is all those subprime construction loans... all the ghost cities in China were built with leverage and it's coming back to haunt them.


it's almost like they had a blueprint.


You mean a boo-print?

I'm so sorry it's Monday morning.
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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
January 11 2016 14:46 GMT
#54534
On January 11 2016 23:44 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2016 23:39 Doublemint wrote:
On January 11 2016 23:38 ticklishmusic wrote:
The stock market in China is more a symptom than a cause( even moreso than in the US) because only a small fraction of national wealth flows through it. It's nasty, but I think the US is relatively immune. What I'm really worried about is all those subprime construction loans... all the ghost cities in China were built with leverage and it's coming back to haunt them.


it's almost like they had a blueprint.


You mean a boo-print?

I'm so sorry it's Monday morning.


you are kinda forgiven. I woke up to the news of david bowie being dead.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46467 Posts
January 11 2016 14:52 GMT
#54535
On January 11 2016 15:26 Zooper31 wrote:
I haven't visited this thread since Obama got elected for his 2nd term.

I still can't believe Trump is still running and is so far ahead for the republican nomination that he actually has a chance at winning.

This has to be some sort of horrible distorted reality like the movie Idiocracy. He is such a hate filled, racist, rich pompus asshole and he's actually popular!


Well it's because people like the fact that Trump is politically incorrect + doesn't appear to be bought-out + many people still haven't heard of Bernie Sanders + everyone's heard of Trump + some people appreciate a healthy dose of xenophobia and bigotry.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
January 11 2016 15:42 GMT
#54536
I appreciate his political incorrectness, it's the rest of him that's appalling.

If he were generally smart and had feasible policies, I wouldn't mind his being a bit rude.

I still hope he won't get away with being a sack of wind much longer, but I feel the hope is fading.
The problem with the US electorate is that you have the normal percentage of idiots, but then you also have Fox news who turn normal people into idiots and idiots into full blown morons.
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heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-11 15:51:49
January 11 2016 15:51 GMT
#54537
Wrong thead
dude bro.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 11 2016 15:52 GMT
#54538
Trump is getting hit where it hurts
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
January 11 2016 16:10 GMT
#54539
On January 12 2016 00:52 ticklishmusic wrote:
Trump is getting hit where it hurts


someone found quite the chink in his armor made of bullshit
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
January 11 2016 16:18 GMT
#54540
He's a 60 year old billionaire. What is money to him at this point.
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