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JonnyBNoHo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States6277 Posts
January 21 2015 03:58 GMT
#31721
On January 21 2015 12:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 12:53 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
On January 21 2015 12:27 GreenHorizons wrote:
On January 21 2015 12:18 xDaunt wrote:
On January 21 2015 12:16 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On January 21 2015 12:15 xDaunt wrote:
On January 21 2015 12:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:49 xDaunt wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:47 coverpunch wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:44 xDaunt wrote:
This speech is utterly bereft of vision.

But has plenty of delusion

I especially liked the part where he played up how successful American policy against ISIS has been, and then, in the same breath, he requested the authorization to use additional force.


Why not? The GOP has attacked him constantly for Libya, Syria etc. But when he authorizes fore they can't stop tripping over each other to switch stories.

Criticize Bush all you want, but he never would have demonstrated the pettiness demonstrated by Obama tonight. It's degrading.


Google Karl Rove.

Give an example? This is a State of the Union. Given in front of a party that even before his inauguration decided and tried to make him a one term president and not allow anything to be passed.

Bush dealt with more than his share of partisan horseshit during his two terms. He never dedicated an entire state of the union speech to attacking democrats.



Because instead of going out and pushing for why Republicans needed to keep the presidency after he was gone Republicans locked him in a cave and turned the last republican president into a delusional vision of Reagan.

Obama is clearly using the SOTU to set the stage for 2016 and judging by Republicans so far they are totally blindsided and have nothing but more personal attacks, petty legislation, and fear mongering around "terrorism" prepared for the next couple years.

Republicans wanting a petty pipeline that will primarily help a foreign company being compared to Obama asking for a large infrastructure bill will basically be the frame for every debate.

Republicans roll in with the Earnst teleprompter jokes now right?

That's a losing argument, unless you can get the lies to stick.


Seeing how the Erst post SOTU speech was about the Pipeline...

Seeing how the argument against the pipeline has resorted to shameless lies and nothing else.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
January 21 2015 04:00 GMT
#31722
I'd hope to be glad when this pipeline nonsense is done with, but sadly it will merely be replaced with some other nonsense. I want a government that doesn't involve itself with nonsense. A no-nonsense government, wouldn't that be nice. I'd love to try to design one.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
January 21 2015 04:01 GMT
#31723
On January 21 2015 13:00 zlefin wrote:
I'd hope to be glad when this pipeline nonsense is done with, but sadly it will merely be replaced with some other nonsense. I want a government that doesn't involve itself with nonsense. A no-nonsense government, wouldn't that be nice. I'd love to try to design one.


Impossible, because it will run by humanity.
Never Knows Best.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-21 04:03:51
January 21 2015 04:03 GMT
#31724
So... Apparently Ted Cruz started his response but decided to start over 50 seconds in, upload has been removed from YouTube.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15690 Posts
January 21 2015 04:04 GMT
#31725
On January 21 2015 13:03 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So... Apparently Ted Cruz started his response but decided to start over 50 seconds in, upload has been removed from YouTube.


Where will I be able to find the response?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 21 2015 04:04 GMT
#31726
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
January 21 2015 04:09 GMT
#31727
Haha I like Paul's response already, I have been thinking the same thing about limiting the terms for congress.
Never Knows Best.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 21 2015 04:10 GMT
#31728
Marco Rubio is down on his knees thanking God for Joni Ernst as Iowan, #JOniErnst, and of course #breadbags, and #RepublicanResponse is trending on twitter.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15690 Posts
January 21 2015 04:10 GMT
#31729
On January 21 2015 13:04 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czsKW6EqypY


Made it 2 minutes in and had to throw up. I appreciate you posting though.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-21 04:13:40
January 21 2015 04:13 GMT
#31730
CNN ladies and gentleman:

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 21 2015 04:14 GMT
#31731
Nice response from Rand.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 21 2015 04:15 GMT
#31732
On January 21 2015 13:04 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 13:03 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So... Apparently Ted Cruz started his response but decided to start over 50 seconds in, upload has been removed from YouTube.


Where will I be able to find the response?


He will send his response by email. But guess what HuffPost has the video before Ted Cruz staff pulled the video.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/20/ted-cruz-video_n_6512668.html?ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000067
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-21 04:21:58
January 21 2015 04:20 GMT
#31733
On January 21 2015 13:14 xDaunt wrote:
Nice response from Rand.


Didn't agree with some of what he said but liked others. His stuff on healthcare was a joke though. "freedom worked for over 200 years" and he said this right after he talked about how the privileged need to wake up and be aware of those who are worse off.
Never Knows Best.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
January 21 2015 04:20 GMT
#31734
On January 21 2015 12:44 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 12:37 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On January 21 2015 12:33 xDaunt wrote:
Eh, Joni is doing better than expected. I actually like the content and overall tact of the speech. The presentation is not particularly compelling, though.


The content is weak. It's nothing but incredibly generic platitudes and bland rhetoric that have zero meaning.

She sounded like a computerized voice, or maybe like she was trying too hard to be slow and comprehensible to the elderly. That said, she was still better than Rubio last year...

She gave the response, not the state of the union address. She got like 10 minutes or so to talk. Feel free to explain what specifics can be given in that time. Her job was to present the general republican message, which she did competently.

And let's not pretend that Obama's speech had any real policy specifics in it. To the extent that were any, they are all irrelevant anyway. The bottom line is that no one is going to be working on any of the potential legislation that he proposed tonight. The only possible exception is the authorization to use force against ISIS.


No she didn't. She completely wasted 10 minutes of everyone's time. She said absolutely nothing new. It was all incredibly generic bullet points that were hashed out several years ago by countless other Republicans. There was zero response to Obama in it whatsoever.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 21 2015 04:20 GMT
#31735
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 21 2015 04:20 GMT
#31736
On January 21 2015 13:20 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 12:44 xDaunt wrote:
On January 21 2015 12:37 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On January 21 2015 12:33 xDaunt wrote:
Eh, Joni is doing better than expected. I actually like the content and overall tact of the speech. The presentation is not particularly compelling, though.


The content is weak. It's nothing but incredibly generic platitudes and bland rhetoric that have zero meaning.

She sounded like a computerized voice, or maybe like she was trying too hard to be slow and comprehensible to the elderly. That said, she was still better than Rubio last year...

She gave the response, not the state of the union address. She got like 10 minutes or so to talk. Feel free to explain what specifics can be given in that time. Her job was to present the general republican message, which she did competently.

And let's not pretend that Obama's speech had any real policy specifics in it. To the extent that were any, they are all irrelevant anyway. The bottom line is that no one is going to be working on any of the potential legislation that he proposed tonight. The only possible exception is the authorization to use force against ISIS.


No she didn't. She completely wasted 10 minutes of everyone's time. She said absolutely nothing new. It was all incredibly generic bullet points that were hashed out several years ago by countless other Republicans. There was zero response to Obama in it whatsoever.

It's like you and Stealthblue are reading from the same liberal hack talking points. Amazing!
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-21 04:27:17
January 21 2015 04:26 GMT
#31737
On January 21 2015 13:14 xDaunt wrote:
Nice response from Rand.


The idea to put a term limit on everyone is great.

However, right after that, he goes on this BS tangent about how "liberal elites don't understand the common person". What, do conservatives understand them any better? Am I supposed to believe that a bunch of crotchety old rich and privileged white men understand what my life is like as a young 20-something trying to afford education, a wedding, and the ability to create a life (steady career/car/house/etc.) after having grown up barely above poverty? Or any black/Hispanic/Asian person's experience whatsoever?

It's a fucking joke.

It's like you and Stealthblue are reading from the same liberal hack talking points. Amazing!


It's cute that you think that you have any credibility when I can list any of your opinions by just looking at The Conservative Textbook and never actually talking to you.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 21 2015 04:27 GMT
#31738
Didn't Rubio respond last year? Pretty sure it was like 10x better than Ernst's, and let's just say Rubio's wasn't exactly inspiring.
liftlift > tsm
JonnyBNoHo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States6277 Posts
January 21 2015 04:38 GMT
#31739
I'm curious how Dems plan on building a bunch of roads with out evil oil-derived asphalt or CO2 producing concrete
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23244 Posts
January 21 2015 04:55 GMT
#31740
On January 21 2015 12:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 12:53 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
On January 21 2015 12:27 GreenHorizons wrote:
On January 21 2015 12:18 xDaunt wrote:
On January 21 2015 12:16 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On January 21 2015 12:15 xDaunt wrote:
On January 21 2015 12:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:49 xDaunt wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:47 coverpunch wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:44 xDaunt wrote:
This speech is utterly bereft of vision.

But has plenty of delusion

I especially liked the part where he played up how successful American policy against ISIS has been, and then, in the same breath, he requested the authorization to use additional force.


Why not? The GOP has attacked him constantly for Libya, Syria etc. But when he authorizes fore they can't stop tripping over each other to switch stories.

Criticize Bush all you want, but he never would have demonstrated the pettiness demonstrated by Obama tonight. It's degrading.


Google Karl Rove.

Give an example? This is a State of the Union. Given in front of a party that even before his inauguration decided and tried to make him a one term president and not allow anything to be passed.

Bush dealt with more than his share of partisan horseshit during his two terms. He never dedicated an entire state of the union speech to attacking democrats.



Because instead of going out and pushing for why Republicans needed to keep the presidency after he was gone Republicans locked him in a cave and turned the last republican president into a delusional vision of Reagan.

Obama is clearly using the SOTU to set the stage for 2016 and judging by Republicans so far they are totally blindsided and have nothing but more personal attacks, petty legislation, and fear mongering around "terrorism" prepared for the next couple years.

Republicans wanting a petty pipeline that will primarily help a foreign company being compared to Obama asking for a large infrastructure bill will basically be the frame for every debate.

Republicans roll in with the Earnst teleprompter jokes now right?

That's a losing argument, unless you can get the lies to stick.


Seeing how the Erst post SOTU speech was about the Pipeline...


And Rand hit us with "Do no harm"...
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
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