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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23657 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-21 03:13:55
January 21 2015 03:13 GMT
#31681
On January 21 2015 12:11 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 12:09 Mohdoo wrote:
"Because I won both of them"

☐ Not REKT ☑ REKT

So much salt in that room it is ridiculous. God I fucking love seeing the bitterness.

And you wonder why the past 6 years have been so partisan? Who the hell wants to work with someone who is such a cunt to them? He is the president of the US, not a student body.


So salty. Republican's had their chances and squandered them. Looking the same for 2016.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-21 03:14:32
January 21 2015 03:13 GMT
#31682
On January 21 2015 11:49 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 11:47 coverpunch wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:44 xDaunt wrote:
This speech is utterly bereft of vision.

But has plenty of delusion

I especially liked the part where he played up how successful American policy against ISIS has been, and then, in the same breath, he requested the authorization to use additional force.


Why not? The GOP has attacked him constantly for Libya, Syria etc. But when he authorizes for a response of force they can't stop tripping over each other to switch stories.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
January 21 2015 03:14 GMT
#31683
Wow, so much celebration for a one liner that trashes any pretense of bipartisanship.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
January 21 2015 03:14 GMT
#31684
On January 21 2015 12:11 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 12:09 Mohdoo wrote:
"Because I won both of them"

☐ Not REKT ☑ REKT

So much salt in that room it is ridiculous. God I fucking love seeing the bitterness.

And you wonder why the past 6 years have been so partisan? Who the hell wants to work with someone who is such a cunt to them? He is the president of the US, not a student body.


Obama could have been the nicest guy in Washington and the Republicans strategy of stalling for time until he is out of office wouldn't have changed.
Never Knows Best.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 21 2015 03:15 GMT
#31685
On January 21 2015 12:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 11:49 xDaunt wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:47 coverpunch wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:44 xDaunt wrote:
This speech is utterly bereft of vision.

But has plenty of delusion

I especially liked the part where he played up how successful American policy against ISIS has been, and then, in the same breath, he requested the authorization to use additional force.


Why not? The GOP has attacked him constantly for Libya, Syria etc. But when he authorizes fore they can't stop tripping over each other to switch stories.

Criticize Bush all you want, but he never would have demonstrated the pettiness demonstrated by Obama tonight. It's degrading.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-21 03:16:55
January 21 2015 03:16 GMT
#31686
On January 21 2015 12:15 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 12:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:49 xDaunt wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:47 coverpunch wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:44 xDaunt wrote:
This speech is utterly bereft of vision.

But has plenty of delusion

I especially liked the part where he played up how successful American policy against ISIS has been, and then, in the same breath, he requested the authorization to use additional force.


Why not? The GOP has attacked him constantly for Libya, Syria etc. But when he authorizes fore they can't stop tripping over each other to switch stories.

Criticize Bush all you want, but he never would have demonstrated the pettiness demonstrated by Obama tonight. It's degrading.


Google Karl Rove.

Give an example? This is a State of the Union. Given in front of a party that even before his inauguration decided and tried to make him a one term president and not allow anything to be passed.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 21 2015 03:17 GMT
#31687
Memory sure is short.

Remember how hard Obama tried to get bipartisan support for Obamacare? Remember all the political capital he spent trying to make that happen?
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
January 21 2015 03:17 GMT
#31688
On January 21 2015 12:16 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 12:15 xDaunt wrote:
On January 21 2015 12:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:49 xDaunt wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:47 coverpunch wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:44 xDaunt wrote:
This speech is utterly bereft of vision.

But has plenty of delusion

I especially liked the part where he played up how successful American policy against ISIS has been, and then, in the same breath, he requested the authorization to use additional force.


Why not? The GOP has attacked him constantly for Libya, Syria etc. But when he authorizes fore they can't stop tripping over each other to switch stories.

Criticize Bush all you want, but he never would have demonstrated the pettiness demonstrated by Obama tonight. It's degrading.


Google Karl Rove.

Give an example? This is a State of the Union. Given in front of a party that even before his inauguration decided and tried to make him a one term president and not allow anything to be passed.

?? Even though Obama celebrated dissent in his speech and called America a tight knit family...
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15737 Posts
January 21 2015 03:17 GMT
#31689
On January 21 2015 12:15 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 12:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:49 xDaunt wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:47 coverpunch wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:44 xDaunt wrote:
This speech is utterly bereft of vision.

But has plenty of delusion

I especially liked the part where he played up how successful American policy against ISIS has been, and then, in the same breath, he requested the authorization to use additional force.


Why not? The GOP has attacked him constantly for Libya, Syria etc. But when he authorizes fore they can't stop tripping over each other to switch stories.

Criticize Bush all you want, but he never would have demonstrated the pettiness demonstrated by Obama tonight. It's degrading.


Aren't republicans supposed to be trying to pretend bush never happened right about now? Especially with the wild notion that Jeb is a viable candidate in 2016.
RCMDVA
Profile Joined July 2011
United States708 Posts
January 21 2015 03:18 GMT
#31690
On January 21 2015 12:14 coverpunch wrote:
Wow, so much celebration for a one liner that trashes any pretense of bipartisanship.



Mitch McConnell should have on underneath his jacket a #54 Kentucky Wildcats jersey.

Rips it off after the 1-liner.

Flexes.

"Keep talking, just keep talking."
Walnuts
Profile Joined March 2012
United States770 Posts
January 21 2015 03:18 GMT
#31691
I thought the best part was where Obama talked about new medical research and all the Republicans kinda looked at each other to figure out if they were supporting it or not.
Gandalf on balance: "It's always darkest before the dawn"
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 21 2015 03:18 GMT
#31692
This was the shortest SOTU speech has ever given.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 21 2015 03:18 GMT
#31693
On January 21 2015 12:16 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 12:15 xDaunt wrote:
On January 21 2015 12:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:49 xDaunt wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:47 coverpunch wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:44 xDaunt wrote:
This speech is utterly bereft of vision.

But has plenty of delusion

I especially liked the part where he played up how successful American policy against ISIS has been, and then, in the same breath, he requested the authorization to use additional force.


Why not? The GOP has attacked him constantly for Libya, Syria etc. But when he authorizes fore they can't stop tripping over each other to switch stories.

Criticize Bush all you want, but he never would have demonstrated the pettiness demonstrated by Obama tonight. It's degrading.


Google Karl Rove.

Give an example? This is a State of the Union. Given in front of a party that even before his inauguration decided and tried to make him a one term president and not allow anything to be passed.

Bush dealt with more than his share of partisan horseshit during his two terms. He never dedicated an entire state of the union speech to attacking democrats.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
January 21 2015 03:19 GMT
#31694
On January 21 2015 12:17 coverpunch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 12:16 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On January 21 2015 12:15 xDaunt wrote:
On January 21 2015 12:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:49 xDaunt wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:47 coverpunch wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:44 xDaunt wrote:
This speech is utterly bereft of vision.

But has plenty of delusion

I especially liked the part where he played up how successful American policy against ISIS has been, and then, in the same breath, he requested the authorization to use additional force.


Why not? The GOP has attacked him constantly for Libya, Syria etc. But when he authorizes fore they can't stop tripping over each other to switch stories.

Criticize Bush all you want, but he never would have demonstrated the pettiness demonstrated by Obama tonight. It's degrading.


Google Karl Rove.

Give an example? This is a State of the Union. Given in front of a party that even before his inauguration decided and tried to make him a one term president and not allow anything to be passed.

?? Even though Obama celebrated dissent in his speech and called America a tight knit family...


Nothing says family like arguing over petty shit lol.
Never Knows Best.
coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
January 21 2015 03:20 GMT
#31695
On January 21 2015 12:19 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 12:17 coverpunch wrote:
On January 21 2015 12:16 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On January 21 2015 12:15 xDaunt wrote:
On January 21 2015 12:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:49 xDaunt wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:47 coverpunch wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:44 xDaunt wrote:
This speech is utterly bereft of vision.

But has plenty of delusion

I especially liked the part where he played up how successful American policy against ISIS has been, and then, in the same breath, he requested the authorization to use additional force.


Why not? The GOP has attacked him constantly for Libya, Syria etc. But when he authorizes fore they can't stop tripping over each other to switch stories.

Criticize Bush all you want, but he never would have demonstrated the pettiness demonstrated by Obama tonight. It's degrading.


Google Karl Rove.

Give an example? This is a State of the Union. Given in front of a party that even before his inauguration decided and tried to make him a one term president and not allow anything to be passed.

?? Even though Obama celebrated dissent in his speech and called America a tight knit family...


Nothing says family like arguing over petty shit lol.

Haha fair enough
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-21 03:20:39
January 21 2015 03:20 GMT
#31696
And this entire state of the union speech wasn't about attacking republicans. It was mostly typical bland policy prescriptions and feel good stuff, with a moderate amount of attacks on issues republicans are vulnerable on, but not worded as such.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Walnuts
Profile Joined March 2012
United States770 Posts
January 21 2015 03:21 GMT
#31697
On January 21 2015 12:20 zlefin wrote:
And this entire state of the union speech wasn't about attacking republicans. It was mostly typical bland policy prescriptions and feel good stuff, with a moderate amount of attacks on issues republicans are vulnerable on, but not worded as such.

Yeah, I think this sums it up pretty well.
Gandalf on balance: "It's always darkest before the dawn"
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15737 Posts
January 21 2015 03:26 GMT
#31698
On January 21 2015 12:19 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 12:17 coverpunch wrote:
On January 21 2015 12:16 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On January 21 2015 12:15 xDaunt wrote:
On January 21 2015 12:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:49 xDaunt wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:47 coverpunch wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:44 xDaunt wrote:
This speech is utterly bereft of vision.

But has plenty of delusion

I especially liked the part where he played up how successful American policy against ISIS has been, and then, in the same breath, he requested the authorization to use additional force.


Why not? The GOP has attacked him constantly for Libya, Syria etc. But when he authorizes fore they can't stop tripping over each other to switch stories.

Criticize Bush all you want, but he never would have demonstrated the pettiness demonstrated by Obama tonight. It's degrading.


Google Karl Rove.

Give an example? This is a State of the Union. Given in front of a party that even before his inauguration decided and tried to make him a one term president and not allow anything to be passed.

?? Even though Obama celebrated dissent in his speech and called America a tight knit family...


Nothing says family like arguing over petty shit lol.



...

You are brilliant.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 21 2015 03:26 GMT
#31699
Joni Ernst about to speak. After that there will be four more Republican responses, one a official Spanish one.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23657 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-21 03:29:21
January 21 2015 03:27 GMT
#31700
On January 21 2015 12:18 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 12:16 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On January 21 2015 12:15 xDaunt wrote:
On January 21 2015 12:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:49 xDaunt wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:47 coverpunch wrote:
On January 21 2015 11:44 xDaunt wrote:
This speech is utterly bereft of vision.

But has plenty of delusion

I especially liked the part where he played up how successful American policy against ISIS has been, and then, in the same breath, he requested the authorization to use additional force.


Why not? The GOP has attacked him constantly for Libya, Syria etc. But when he authorizes fore they can't stop tripping over each other to switch stories.

Criticize Bush all you want, but he never would have demonstrated the pettiness demonstrated by Obama tonight. It's degrading.


Google Karl Rove.

Give an example? This is a State of the Union. Given in front of a party that even before his inauguration decided and tried to make him a one term president and not allow anything to be passed.

Bush dealt with more than his share of partisan horseshit during his two terms. He never dedicated an entire state of the union speech to attacking democrats.



Because instead of going out and pushing for why Republicans needed to keep the presidency after he was gone Republicans locked him in a cave and turned the last republican president into a delusional vision of Reagan.

Obama is clearly using the SOTU to set the stage for 2016 and judging by Republicans so far they are totally blindsided and have nothing but more personal attacks, petty legislation, and fear mongering around "terrorism" prepared for the next couple years.

Republicans wanting a petty pipeline that will primarily help a foreign company being compared to Obama asking for a large infrastructure bill will basically be the frame for every debate.

Republicans roll in with the Earnst teleprompter jokes now right?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
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