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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8245 Posts
November 08 2012 00:11 GMT
#1
Either I'm blind or I don't see any posts on this.. http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/5847956061?page=1#3

We are seeing what you are seeing. Obviously Infestors are seeing a lot of use right now. Will it change? Is this forever?

The community's ability to develop new strategies is worthy of respect. The Infestor has not changed in months and it is now appears over powered in some games. What will be overpowered next month? Maybe something new, maybe the Infestor. We are going to discuss it, watch games and see.

I expect we will try a balance map like we have in the past to test some stuff at some point in the future depending on how games go on the ladder and how games go in the many tournaments we have remaining before the end of the year. If the Infestor (or any other unit) looks bad to us we will try some changes. If strategies develop around countering him and he gets back in line we will do nothing.
soon.Cloak
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States983 Posts
November 08 2012 00:14 GMT
#2
Seems logical to me...
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 00:15:21
November 08 2012 00:14 GMT
#3
This is a good approach to balance. Basically they're saying, we know that infestor builds have holes or weaknesses and we're just waiting for the community to find them. Please don't nerf stuff you know isn't OP. That said, fungal was changed from its original design, so it may very well be too good. Only david kim and co know for sure.
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
November 08 2012 00:15 GMT
#4
took them a while
Zeborg
Profile Joined November 2010
107 Posts
November 08 2012 00:15 GMT
#5
The point isn't that fungal growth is overpowered, the point is that it's boring and uninspiring to watch. Just like force fields.
Maxd11
Profile Joined July 2011
United States680 Posts
November 08 2012 00:15 GMT
#6
He said nothing. Not even close. He acknowledged that infestors see a lot of use and said that blizzard will change any units that need changing. Same as always.
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multiversed
Profile Joined December 2010
United States233 Posts
November 08 2012 00:16 GMT
#7
if we were just going off these statements out of context, i would bet the person saying these things didn't actively play starcraft.
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Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
November 08 2012 00:17 GMT
#8
On November 08 2012 09:15 Zeborg wrote:
The point isn't that fungal growth is overpowered, the point is that it's boring and uninspiring to watch. Just like force fields.

Buuuut you miss the point it's all about those numbers >_<. As long as winrates are in the 45-55% range it's all good, doesn't matter if the game is terrible.
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
November 08 2012 00:19 GMT
#9
I just think its silly that what is supposed to be a support caster is the preffered massable unit. Its not uncommon to see anywhere between 16-24 infestors at once late game.
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SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
November 08 2012 00:21 GMT
#10
Infestors are just too good, There is never ever a situation where you wouldn't want an infestor the only time they are bad is when they have no energy. Infested Terrans are also really damn good just go see Leenock just tear apart every Terran with infested Terrans and retreat with fungals and never losing an Infestor. They have been dominate now for a long time so I would welcome a few tweaks.
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sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
November 08 2012 00:22 GMT
#11
On November 08 2012 09:19 ReachTheSky wrote:
I just think its silly that what is supposed to be a support caster is the preffered massable unit. Its not uncommon to see anywhere between 16-24 infestors at once late game.


It's also not uncommon to see 15-20 Sentries early-mid game.
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 00:24:44
November 08 2012 00:23 GMT
#12
Browder and DK keep talking as if this infestor domination is a recent thing. It has been going for a pretty long time.

On November 08 2012 09:22 sitromit wrote:
It's also not uncommon to see 15-20 Sentries early-mid game.


Wat. What league are you watching?
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AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 00:24:30
November 08 2012 00:24 GMT
#13
Still being patient. I guess that makes sense. The infestor is our core unit, and the community is slow to move out of its comfort zone and innovate. A prime example would be ghosts. It was blatantly obvious that they were OP as all hell against protoss, but they were never used for far too long.
I can't help but wonder, though, when does patiently waiting for change turn into delaying a much needed balance patch?
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sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
November 08 2012 00:26 GMT
#14
On November 08 2012 09:23 AndAgain wrote:
Browder and DK keep talking as if this infestor domination is a recent thing. It has been going for a pretty long time.

Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 09:22 sitromit wrote:
It's also not uncommon to see 15-20 Sentries early-mid game.


Wat. What league are you watching?


Next time you see a Sentry/Immortal all in, count... One recent example off the top of my head, Finale vs Jaedong on Abyssal City, Finale had 17 Sentries at the time of the attack.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10695 Posts
November 08 2012 00:26 GMT
#15
On November 08 2012 09:22 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 09:19 ReachTheSky wrote:
I just think its silly that what is supposed to be a support caster is the preffered massable unit. Its not uncommon to see anywhere between 16-24 infestors at once late game.


It's also not uncommon to see 15-20 Sentries early-mid game.


... 15-20 sentries early - mid game? lol. Nah man, 1,500 - 2k gas early - mid game worth of sentries, not happening.

On topic : I think if they nerf fungal they should give Neural parasite a little buff like back in the beta / early release when you used to be able to neural parasite while burrowed.
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8245 Posts
November 08 2012 00:27 GMT
#16
On November 08 2012 09:22 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 09:19 ReachTheSky wrote:
I just think its silly that what is supposed to be a support caster is the preffered massable unit. Its not uncommon to see anywhere between 16-24 infestors at once late game.


It's also not uncommon to see 15-20 Sentries early-mid game.

Um... when do you see 15 to 20 Sentries in the early to mid game... Never have I seen that many...
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
November 08 2012 00:28 GMT
#17
Thank goodness they waited to see how the community would respond to thors without energy, or snipe, or blue flame...
malaan
Profile Joined September 2010
365 Posts
November 08 2012 00:29 GMT
#18
It's just fungal growth that needs looking at... everything else is fine.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
November 08 2012 00:31 GMT
#19
On November 08 2012 09:27 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 09:22 sitromit wrote:
On November 08 2012 09:19 ReachTheSky wrote:
I just think its silly that what is supposed to be a support caster is the preffered massable unit. Its not uncommon to see anywhere between 16-24 infestors at once late game.


It's also not uncommon to see 15-20 Sentries early-mid game.

Um... when do you see 15 to 20 Sentries in the early to mid game... Never have I seen that many...


http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls4/vod/70595

13 minutes in game clock, Finale has 17 Sentries. Kills Jaedong's entire army barely losing anything.
MrF
Profile Joined October 2011
United States320 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 00:32:51
November 08 2012 00:32 GMT
#20
On November 08 2012 09:26 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 09:23 AndAgain wrote:
Browder and DK keep talking as if this infestor domination is a recent thing. It has been going for a pretty long time.

On November 08 2012 09:22 sitromit wrote:
It's also not uncommon to see 15-20 Sentries early-mid game.


Wat. What league are you watching?


Next time you see a Sentry/Immortal all in, count... One recent example off the top of my head, Finale vs Jaedong on Abyssal City, Finale had 17 Sentries at the time of the attack.

That doesn't mean its common to see that many, you were exaggerating, don't dig yourself a hole by trying to back up a blatantly ridiculous claim, 7-10 is common maybe a couple more 15+ sentries at one time is not common. Just because it happened once or twice doesn't mean its not uncommon.
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