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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28918 Posts
February 17 2006 02:24 GMT
#121
carnac you really can't have read his paint threads if that's how you feel..
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
February 17 2006 02:30 GMT
#122
fakesteve is funny.

I do agree that people who start shit in EVERY FUCKING THREAD they are in should be banned.

There are a few people here who seem to like to flame/argue all the time in every thread and never even attempt to see the other persons point of view at all. THen you have people who dont understand sarcasm at all, or who are apparently too stupid in interpert(sp) (ironY) a post properly and then attempt to flame a person afterwards.
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
February 17 2006 03:34 GMT
#123
On February 17 2006 11:24 Liquid`Drone wrote:
carnac you really can't have read his paint threads if that's how you feel..
Nowadays there are only very few threads I actually click on to read them in the general forum and the posts of Steve I read anywhere else certainly don't raise my will to click on threads started by Steve...

Almost anyone can make funny paint pictures though...
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CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
February 17 2006 03:47 GMT
#124
i never got why people took such issue with stimey. he's over the top, yeah, but he's one of the few people who reads posts. half the shit he gets flamed for are people catching a line or two out of his mammoth posts, and then responding to his statements taken out of context.
i can understand why he was frustrated. anyway, hope he comes back
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
tiffany
Profile Joined November 2003
3664 Posts
February 17 2006 04:10 GMT
#125
carnac steve has some real artistic and creative talent. should check those paint threads out, they're gems in the rough =]
radiaL
Profile Joined August 2003
Andorra2690 Posts
February 17 2006 04:34 GMT
#126
Mani, haven't talked to you in a while, but -
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Vi)Chris
Profile Joined January 2003
United States700 Posts
February 17 2006 05:20 GMT
#127
For some reason I feel impartial to most of this. Although creating a thread for the sole purpose of biting the hand that feeds... is well risky. Looks like Stimy crossed the line this time. But I'm a softy at heart, I couldn't keep anyone banned forever.
Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master.
FroST(TE)
Profile Joined September 2004
United States909 Posts
February 17 2006 05:27 GMT
#128
better off without him
PoorUser on LP
Syst[eM]atic
Profile Joined January 2006
61 Posts
February 17 2006 05:41 GMT
#129
uhjoo is a horrible moderator.

He banned me (Syst[eM]) after a discussion of politics. He didn't say a word or tell anyone that I was banned for what I said, because he knew that he would be flamed for his ridiculous abuse of power. He was the person calling the names, saying that I was an idiot, moron, etc. And he banned me when I accused him of putting words in my mouth (which he did) and of ignoring my questions by just asking more of his own (which he also did).

I PM'd Liquid'Meat on LiquidPoker, where I have also been a contributive poster and asked him to reconsider my ban and gave him several valid reasons why uhjoo was abusing his power. I still await a response.

In closing, uhjoo abuses and Liquid'Meat doesn't care.
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-02-17 05:49:11
February 17 2006 05:46 GMT
#130
On February 16 2006 23:50 ManaBlue wrote:
However, since I articulate my arguements in a sound and intelligent way mods like Drone, Twisted, Rekrul, and even Cyric have put up with my shit.


This either makes me out to be one of the more intelligent or one of the less tolerant mods.. which is it? (j/k btw)

As to Stimey, I eventually began to ignore him. It's the same ol thing over and over, and I don't think he'll ever rub me the right way with his antagonistic approach to expressing his views. I'm not going to pretend that I won't vehemently defend or promote an opinion I hold in a debate, but I think Stimey takes it further than most with the way he is always on the attack.

He can say all he wants about how he only argues so much against the way things are because he sees so much unrealized potential in regards to the forums, but it's really just him trying to impose his own view of how the forums should be on everyone else. It's just the nature of this site that it will be run according to the views of an assorted, numerous group of admins/mods, and I actually think that's what makes it what it is. There are ways in which the site could be improved, but again I will say that Stimey messed up in how he went about making his suggestions. His suggestions frequently reached the point of demands, and that rarely if ever works with anyone. This is particularly true when the people upon who the demands are being made are a group of people putting in work for little or no return or reward, as the TL.net staff is.

With Stimey it's always been about how he said/did things, not necessarily what he said/did. Ever since his first ban, he has seemed to develop a self-destruct tendency where he would get whatever persona he had created after some time had passed. Guess it was time for "mitsy".

As to FakeSteve, I believe it's only a temp ban?
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Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
February 17 2006 05:52 GMT
#131
Don't turn this into a discussion about how specific bans in the past were unfair, Syst[em]atic...
You acted like an angry moron in http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=9&topic_id=36107 and started lashing out at everyone.
Syst[eM]atic
Profile Joined January 2006
61 Posts
February 17 2006 06:01 GMT
#132
Don't turn this into a discussion about how specific bans in the past were unfair, Syst[em]atic...
You acted like an angry moron in http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=9&topic_id=36107 and started lashing out at everyone.


I don't know what you were reading. I was arguing with only Rpf and uhjoo, which last I checked, isn't
everyone
. My posts were at least as well thought out as theirs, especially since RPF says this gem,
I personally don't know how it works, but all I know is that it's complete bullshit.


The fact is that he attacked something without knowing what it was, and I defended it. He decided that I should give him a definition and I told him it was retarded for him to argue without answering any questions (he later said the above quote, which explains why he didn't answer anything).

I wish you'd pay attention a little more.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
February 17 2006 06:33 GMT
#133
Again, all you ever did in that thread was flame, and make very generalized statements that were never backed up with any facts.

I'll quote what I said before

On January 25 2006 16:07 KOFgokuon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2006 15:35 Syst[eM] wrote:
It is correct, and rpf is a moron for not responding to anything I said. All he did was tell me what I didn't say and tell us what we already know.

Why should I have to explain how it works? Can't you go read up on it? Everything I've said has been factual and the fact that I haven't explained every little detail of every little thing doesn't mean that I don't know how they work.

P.S. You and Uhjoo still aren't responding to what I say, you are responding to what I don't.


Half of your initial post was a complete flame of rpf, the other half was you saying that the electoral system works fine, but then you state that

Show nested quote +
On January 23 2006 13:20 Syst[eM] wrote:
The majority of votes has lost before because of electoral voting, and it has gone both ways. Just because you're ignorant and you think that Americans are idiots along with the fact that you seem to thing a majority of us are


Then later you state that you think there should be a change in the electoral college system. What are they supposed to respond to when all you're doing is flaming them, then flip flopping?
The only things you keep saying are "you're stupid" and "that's completely wrong." How are they supposed to respond with anything other than flaming?


If I remember the thread right (It's been a month and I don't feel like re-reading the thread) you never backed up your "superior knowledge of the electoral college system," or however you said it. All you would repeat is that you knew more than them over and over again, which isn't really helping at all, now is it?
Broken.Mind
Profile Joined December 2005
United States364 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-02-17 07:13:44
February 17 2006 06:54 GMT
#134
The moderators may not get a charge out of banning/flamming people... but I honestly believe that fakesteve did it because he could. Fakesteve thought as long as he had his guitar, nobody could touch him.. come on ... he's fakesteve... well uhh wake up steve... you're banned?!?
Nobody should feel like they are above anyone on this site with the exception of maybe the admin/moderators.(they must keep order after all). And when you disagree with someone's point of view, opinion, attack the idea not the person. Back up your ideas with facts if possible.. Makes you more credible.... there should be a special thread where people can be debased for people's amusement... We always talk about how quality threads have good debate and many different perspectives that are explored. Flame is just garbage... Ohh and about the special treatment to those who contribute greatly to the tl.net forums: I agree to a certain point. I believe they should have more lienancy when posting, however I do not believe that being a great contributor to the forums gives you license to flame people. And again I say, attack people's opinions, bring in counter arguments etc... and leave the flaming for some other newb forum. Attacking a person accomplishes nothing, you have not proved your point other than the fact that you are too dull witted to come up with something better.
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new_construct
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Canada1041 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-02-17 06:59:50
February 17 2006 06:56 GMT
#135
Syst[eM]atic, if you want "justice" you need to act less aggressive to other posters by not saying "idoit or moron" to show the contrast between the bully and the victim ( but then you will not be banned in the first place). I agree ujhoo might have been unreasonble to ban you, but the fact that u got banned is also partly becaue of your disrespect to other posters. You have to show respect to other people if you want supports from them.
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10708 Posts
February 17 2006 07:52 GMT
#136
So much bitching about Fakesteve being banned, he had it comming, he is funny indeed, but somehow one day he woke up and decided he was the owner of TL.NET, and he became pathetic, every thread he made was a lame attempt for attention, i hope this temp ban serves him as a slap in the face for him to wake up.

About Stimy omfg fish i dont think i need to elaborate in here... His "genius" apparently was only percieved by Eri, but he sucks, he has always sucked and he will always suck.

I think the only reason for him to stay longer is that rea wanted a mini-me in the forum




For fucks sake... im HERE!, a living proof that moderators are not trigger happy at all.
Im back, in pog form!
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 17 2006 07:54 GMT
#137
Hahaha, baal, have you ever been banned?
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baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10708 Posts
February 17 2006 08:07 GMT
#138
On February 17 2006 16:54 NeoIllusions wrote:
Hahaha, baal, have you ever been banned?


Once, Eri banned me (he doesnt love me back), but i totally deserved it, i was trolling every thread and insulting everyone even more than today heh.

I wrote an apology and mensrea said it was the best "mea culpa" he has read, flattering coming from him i guess, and i was back
Im back, in pog form!
uhjoo
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)1740 Posts
February 17 2006 08:42 GMT
#139
On February 17 2006 14:41 Syst[eM]atic wrote:
uhjoo is a horrible moderator.

He banned me (Syst[eM]) after a discussion of politics. He didn't say a word or tell anyone that I was banned for what I said, because he knew that he would be flamed for his ridiculous abuse of power. He was the person calling the names, saying that I was an idiot, moron, etc. And he banned me when I accused him of putting words in my mouth (which he did) and of ignoring my questions by just asking more of his own (which he also did).

I PM'd Liquid'Meat on LiquidPoker, where I have also been a contributive poster and asked him to reconsider my ban and gave him several valid reasons why uhjoo was abusing his power. I still await a response.

In closing, uhjoo abuses and Liquid'Meat doesn't care.


the reason i banned you was not that politics thread

your dumbass posts there just indicated to me you might be a candidate to get banned, and once i looked at all your posts, i made the apparently right decision to ban you, since it's obvious you still haven't learned a damn thing

i should ban you again, but one more chance for you, make it count
i want bubbles the warrior monkey back
maareek
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2042 Posts
February 17 2006 09:03 GMT
#140
Hmm, I think I jumped on the hate stimy bandwagon a bit too early. Anybody eri thinks of that highly (he's said good things about him everytime I can remember the subject being brought up) must have some good points. I honestly can't think of a person that eri has "defended" that I can't see good in.

Even (especially) Corbalt. I saw just how bad he was when he was countered on a subject and just how much I totally disagreed with everything he thought about damn near everything...and then I met him on b.net. And found out that I actually really like the guy. I still strongly disagree with him on everything just about but that just means I avoid all that stuff. I owe him a debt of gratitude, really, as watching reps with him of him v tsu was really helpful to me when I was learning the game. Say what you want about him (and I know you guys probably will) he is, or at least was, a good BW player.

Point of that was to say that I don't know stimy. At all, the only thing I have to go by is his posts in the strategy section (which is basically the only place I go here), and I didn't see anything remotely useful in any of them that I remember. What I did see was him getting flamed and flaming back every 2 seconds, which is almost exactly the same as corb. So, maybe he really is a good guy at heart and just became insanely cynical (again, like corb) because of the way he was treated in the past (I have no clue whether this was caused by him [like corb] or not [as eri seems to believe]). But either way I think I need to jump back off the bandwagon.

Still think he's stupid for doing what he did this time. But it's certainly conceivable that earlier events could have been handled differently to avoid the situation altogether. But I don't know whether that means a moderation problem or a community at large problem.

And to those making public statements about being wrongly banned. It's hard to believe if you're handling it in that way. Doing something like that publicly shows a severe lack of maturity and hardly makes your case believable. If you're wrongly banned and allowed back or come back just act right and try to handly your problems through PM's, never ever into the public eye. That's just common sense. :|
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