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MostGroce
Profile Joined April 2011
United States104 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 13:42:18
September 09 2012 13:41 GMT
#61
I feel there are two ways of fiixing this problem, you can switch to toss, or terran. I picked toss.
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
September 09 2012 13:48 GMT
#62
People use baneling rain against stalkers and come out ok. Although roaches are cheaper keep in mind: roaches cannot blink,and they have enough less health for 1 less baneling to kill them I'm pretty sure? I don't see why not. Protoss can remake stalkers even faster too with wg+chrono
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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
September 09 2012 13:49 GMT
#63
one of the best threads of a hilarious troll.
good job.
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Phattyasmo
Profile Joined October 2011
United States69 Posts
September 09 2012 13:53 GMT
#64
I don't know where the OP is going with this. Is this supposed to be a help thread, or are you just qqing and trolling? Have you tried the idea(s) you're proposing in an actual game? Try it yourself...after some testing, you may find why the metagame currently is what it is, and thus answer your own question(s). Unless you've tried this and come up with some ideas/analysis/data of some sort, this does not really warrant it's own thread imho.
Doubting
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada981 Posts
September 09 2012 13:54 GMT
#65
go Mutas
go Ling Infestor
go Roach/Hydra
go Hydra/Infestor
go Roach/Infestor

there are plenty of unit compositions to use in ZvZ. All these are viable below GM level.
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Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
September 09 2012 13:58 GMT
#66
--- Nuked ---
Fusa
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada148 Posts
September 09 2012 14:04 GMT
#67
I would have to say, you just need more roachs, and upgrades, then more roachs.
fer
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada375 Posts
September 09 2012 14:15 GMT
#68
LOL

Why is this thread not deleted yet... The OP is clearly just fooling around
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SeraKuDA
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada343 Posts
September 09 2012 14:23 GMT
#69
Lol, I'm enjoying this. Especially the people taking him seriously.
AtlasMech
Profile Joined September 2010
United States105 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 14:47:22
September 09 2012 14:46 GMT
#70
On September 09 2012 22:58 Barrin wrote:
Sounds more like a crisis management tactic (sickest plays material) than something to aim for.


Imagine queens popping up to snipe overseers..

And then the person is like "what a fool, he brought his queens out here?" I'm enticed to chase these queens...

The queens lure roaches over perfectly spread baneling mines over an area...

then... explode...

The thing that is most frustrating about zerg is not being able to use banelings in the most efficient manner possible, perhaps, in other words, not being able to get a perfect spread.

Some times I wish there were buttons for auto formations... but mainly for the baneling.
Heaven is a day dream, Hell is a nightmare
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
September 09 2012 14:47 GMT
#71
On September 09 2012 16:55 AtlasMech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 16:53 Antimatterz wrote:
Really the reason why everyone goes Roach/Infestor in ZvZ is that it is the most efficient use of resources for the current metagame. You can viably go Mutas vs. Roach/X strats, but you have to be EXTREMELY careful to prepare just in case they allin.


So in this game of rock paper scissors, if he goes rock... there is A CHANCE that I can hit him from above with paper...

Thank god, I almost thought that this game was somewhat weak in dynamics for a second.

I have been having some good fun playing rock paper scissors with my girlfriend lately though...

I think starcraft 2 is just too advanced for me.


If you don't want help why are you asking for it? What the fuck.
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DontNerfInfestors
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain280 Posts
September 09 2012 14:58 GMT
#72
Guys,its kyfoid trolling.
just KT;DR all his threads on TL AND battlenet like i do
Please dont nerf them.Infestors are fine.
DontNerfInfestors
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain280 Posts
September 09 2012 15:00 GMT
#73
Kyfoid Thread on Battle.net
this is a kyfoid thread,and my KT;DR
Please dont nerf them.Infestors are fine.
Steelo_Rivers
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1968 Posts
September 09 2012 15:02 GMT
#74
soooooooooo why is this still open? i figured this wouldve been closed a couple of hours ago.
ok
AtlasMech
Profile Joined September 2010
United States105 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 15:13:26
September 09 2012 15:11 GMT
#75
So get this... Imagine if there was a formation button for banelings...

So you take your set of banelings and they space them self apart properly according to splash...

Now, you know that if you were to lure roaches over your banes using queens and explode those banes.. that your not going to get roach kills, and he will run back and burrow, and burrow..heal up... you know that your banes were a complete waste.

But with the formation button, you could layer two sets of banes perfectly on top of each other getting both higher damage and optimum efficiency of cost.

And wouldn't two sets of banes layered over each other with + 1 attack be just the perfect set up to get the group of roaches dead?
Heaven is a day dream, Hell is a nightmare
DontNerfInfestors
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain280 Posts
September 09 2012 15:15 GMT
#76
AltasMeCH gets bites on TL but not battlenet
hmmmmmmmmmm
Please dont nerf them.Infestors are fine.
AtlasMech
Profile Joined September 2010
United States105 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 15:19:51
September 09 2012 15:18 GMT
#77
What if the queen actually had this formation command?

Like the commander of a mob... The banelings are too stupid to do it themselves, but the queen had the power of the overmind to call the formation if he is in the vicinity....

That way we aren't making it a noob friendly thing that the other races some how deserve...

We have a queen, and our queen is not fulfilling his overmind duty...
Heaven is a day dream, Hell is a nightmare
AtlasMech
Profile Joined September 2010
United States105 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 15:23:58
September 09 2012 15:22 GMT
#78
http://www.spaceandmotion.com/philosophy/simplicity-discovery-of-the-obvious.htm

Familiar things happen and mankind does not bother about them. It takes a very unusual mind to undertake the analysis of the obvious. (Alfred North Whitehead, Science in the Modern World)

We are like people looking for something they have in their hands all the time; we're looking in all directions except at the thing we want, which is probably why we haven't found it. (Plato, 380BC)

The unapparent connection is more powerful than the apparent one. (Heraclitus)

I deal with the obvious. I present, reiterate and glorify the obvious - because the obvious is what people need to be told. (Dale Carnegie)

There is nothing as deceptive as an obvious fact. (Sir Arthur Conan Doyle)

The best place to hide a needle is in a stack of needles. (Robert Heinlein)

No question is so difficult to answer as that to which the answer is obvious. (George Bernard Shaw)

That's the way things come clear. All of a sudden! And then you realize how obvious they've been all along. (Madeleine L'Engle)

The obvious is that which is never seen until someone expresses it. (Kahlil Gibran)

Nothing evades our attention as persistently as that which is taken for granted. (Gustav Ichheiser)

Because it’s familiar, a thing remains unknown. (Hegel)

Most human beings have an almost infinite capacity for taking things for granted. (Aldous Huxley)

Experience has shown that science frequently develops most fruitfully once we learn to examine the things that seem the simplest, instead of those that seem the most mysterious. (Marvin Minsky)

The aspects of things that are most important for us are hidden because of their simplicity and familiarity. (One is unable to notice something - because it is always before one's eyes). The real foundations of his enquiry do not strike a man at all. Unless THAT fact has at some time struck him. And this means: we fail to be struck by what, once seen, is most striking and most powerful. (Ludwig Wittgenstein)

What I call the 'normal syndrome' that humans do not notice that which is normal. e.g.

Gravity - How remarkable it is that we are stuck to the Earth, that the earth orbits the sun, which orbits the milky way galaxy and so on ... as gravity exists across the observable universe. Yet there is no obvious connection between these things - we just call it gravity and forget about it.

Space - We all exist in three dimensional space, yet we never seem to think about Space! though it obviously surrounds us every where we go!

Light - The fact that we can see stars across the observable universe, which means that we are somehow interconnected with all this other matter many billions of light years away in Space. It is obvious that this is true when we look at the night sky - but how few people really think about this (it is just 'normal')!
Heaven is a day dream, Hell is a nightmare
roca
Profile Joined May 2012
Spain6 Posts
September 09 2012 15:22 GMT
#79
On September 09 2012 20:00 AtlasMech wrote:


about the same way the tank counters the marauder?

This got me.
Macro some shit up.
NoisyNinja
Profile Joined February 2011
United States991 Posts
September 09 2012 15:26 GMT
#80
On September 09 2012 16:38 Sepheren wrote:
what... is... this...?

is this a troll, a non-native speaker... or a crazy person?

banelings aren't good vs. roaches at all, i don't care what other unit they're with. Upgrade your lings or go muta if you don't want to play roach vs. roach.

Look up muta builds, I know you said they were to late in tech, but that's the only common practice. Even then, you switch back into roaches. I guess you could all in with ling/bane every game.


He's a troll on the battle.net forums using the same name. His kind of trolling is the kind where he just spews random bullshit out until he gets banned. This is the second account he's used on the battle.net forums (the other got banned). Everyone usually just posts KT;DR (Kyfoid thread;didn't read).
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