• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:26
CEST 10:26
KST 17:26
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun5[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists19[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid25
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) WardiTV Spring Cup 2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament INu's Battles#14 <BO.9 2Matches>
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss
Brood War
General
JaeDong's ASL S21 Ro16 Post-Review BW General Discussion Leta's ASL S21 Ro.16 review ASL21 General Discussion [ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 2 [BSL22] RO16 Group Stage - 02 - 10 May [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro8 Day 1
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Diablo IV
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1802 users

Heart of the Swarm beta coming soon! - Page 108

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 106 107 108 109 110 144 Next
Do not use this thread to beg users for beta access or trade access with others. Thanks.
mataxp
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Chile538 Posts
September 04 2012 12:52 GMT
#2141
On September 04 2012 21:50 MavercK wrote:


ahahhahaha that was hillarious
Liquid.Hero Startale.Bomber MVP.Dongraegu
MavercK
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2181 Posts
September 04 2012 12:52 GMT
#2142
On September 04 2012 21:49 Tritanis wrote:
Do widow mines get bonus damage from attack upgrades?
Also, is their attack affected by armor? (if it is then a staker should survive the hit with 1 hp)


armor does not affect direct damage or splash at all.
upgrades do not affect it's damage.
Brood War Remake - SC2BW - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145316
Illiterate
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands49 Posts
September 04 2012 12:53 GMT
#2143
On September 04 2012 21:50 MavercK wrote:
http://youtu.be/ljX90DhLcPM


Hahahahaha that's golden!
It's better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50898 Posts
September 04 2012 12:53 GMT
#2144
On September 04 2012 21:45 MavercK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 21:43 Cyro wrote:
What is the activation range on the Widow Mine? Its very important, if its lower than 4, you can clear a field of them with a roach and an overseer


range 5
still hits air
it does 160 damage to it's target and then 35 splash damage in a 1.75 radius


pretty good, they one shot chongulingus on splash too.

they are also the key to switching from bio to mech in any matchup if you so choose to.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
MavercK
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2181 Posts
September 04 2012 12:53 GMT
#2145
On September 04 2012 21:49 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 21:47 stichtom wrote:
A question about the window mines.

Can u target a specific unit with them or is it only autocast?


I think the attack is autocast - it will pick its own target, but you can disable the autocast and manually target it


it's autocast only, cannot be disabled, cannot be manually targetted. you can only burrow/unburrow and move it. otherwise automated.
Brood War Remake - SC2BW - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145316
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
September 04 2012 12:53 GMT
#2146
On September 04 2012 21:50 MavercK wrote:
http://youtu.be/ljX90DhLcPM


That is amazing, thank you sir.
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
September 04 2012 12:53 GMT
#2147
Wow, I cringe so bad when I watch the swarm host, tempest and battle hellion. Warhound in its current state aswell because it just looks so big and ugly.

And I have a feeling that the mines won't work like spider mines when the game hits retail. Seeing how they have made the game even more noob friendly, people who haven't played BW and don't know how to handle mines will scream OP and shit. Just wait and see.

I wanna see a high master+ HotS mech game now.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
MavercK
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2181 Posts
September 04 2012 12:54 GMT
#2148
On September 04 2012 21:50 Rah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 21:47 Qikz wrote:
On September 04 2012 21:42 Lorch wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 04 2012 21:39 MavercK wrote:



Oh I'm so playing mech in this game, spider mines are back :D


Oh my god yes. This is exactly what they need to be like! THANKYOU BLIZZARD!

I've been playing mech in all the matchups for a month or two now and this is badly needed.

Widowmines! <3


That's sick, what would make it perfect though, can the mines be shot before they hit?


i dont think so. perhaps by point defense drone they can. they become a missile when they launch.
Brood War Remake - SC2BW - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145316
Aquila-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
516 Posts
September 04 2012 12:54 GMT
#2149
On September 04 2012 21:50 MavercK wrote:
http://youtu.be/ljX90DhLcPM


LMAO

Imagine 2 infestors that neural 2 vipers that abduct themselves...brrrzzz
Cabinet Sanchez
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia1097 Posts
September 04 2012 12:55 GMT
#2150
On September 04 2012 21:47 Rah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 21:29 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
On September 04 2012 21:28 Rah wrote:
On September 04 2012 20:34 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
On September 04 2012 20:20 Rah wrote:
I think I love warhound now just because of the panicking that it's causing in some of the protoss players on this thread. I don't know if I've ever seen a unit inspire so much terror except for maybe the new mine. Oh no terran's getting something good besides the marine, nerf it!! So funny. Immortal's still going to be as ridiculous as it is now vs mech, don't worry boys.


It's not about playing, I'm shit, I'll always be shit - I don't care about me.
I care about e-sports, I care about good matches being casted which are dynamic, exciting and interesting.
This unit genuinely looks like shit to esports to me, utter trash.


I get it the common consensus right now is that terran winning games without fighting an enormous uphill micro battle = bad for e-sports, but if this unit brings the matchup any closer to Broodwar TvP then consider e-sports improved.



Make the other races deal with an uphill micro battle at the pro level don't dumb it down evenly instead :/
I like seeing cool shit that *I* could never do - you don't see enough (not to say I'm that good but you get me, I hope)

eg: recently squirtle did some slick as fuck warp prism zeppelin micro in a match, it was great.


If Micro was all that could be interesting at a pro level, everyone would be watching WC3 right now. I'd like to see positional play be an option for other match ups besides TvT. Protoss breaking terran lines used to be tense to watch. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's dumbed down.



DOTA2 answers your post. It's micro intensive and it's popular.
Also War 3 is old - it still has a lot of fans and the awesome micro helps that.

TvT is the only good mirror matchup in the game, PvP is intense but repetitive and annoying.
Rimak
Profile Joined January 2012
Denmark434 Posts
September 04 2012 12:55 GMT
#2151
On September 04 2012 21:50 wcr.4fun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 21:39 MavercK wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB2tqx1rlTM&feature=youtu.be


cool now make them fly a little bit less fast, make them killable during flight, let them only hit ground units and put them on the hellion or another unit and you've got yourself an epic unit.

I second that and also there should be changes to mothership:
1. Should be produced from stargate and more than 1 per map.
2. Cost should be 100/350 and 4 food
3. Vortex renamed to Stasis
4. Skin changed
5. Renamed to Arbiter

And also swarm host
1. Instead of creating locust, should attack with the spikes
2. Should be morphed from hydralisk
3. Renamed to Lurker
2000 Jungler 66% Hecarim, 63% Volibear, 60% Jarvan IV
Illiterate
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands49 Posts
September 04 2012 12:57 GMT
#2152
Is anyone else pissing themselves in excitement?
It's better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
September 04 2012 12:58 GMT
#2153
On September 04 2012 21:51 Yonnua wrote:
I feel like if they took autocast off the warhound it would actually be a pretty decent unit. Encourages micro, but not too extensive as its essentially just spam click every few seconds and you get a decent reward for doing so.

EDIT: That said, banshees to force stalkers in to warhound would make for a really tough 1/1/1 to deal with...


Banshees already force stalkers (not enough), and they are already horrible against scv marine tank at the dangerous 1-1-1 timings, unless you mean a non-all-in variation?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 12:59:51
September 04 2012 12:58 GMT
#2154
On September 04 2012 21:52 SoleSteeler wrote:
Widowmine looks sick. Even better than spidermines since you can uproot and reburrow them somewhere else. ^^


That's the bonus to them being units in their own right.

New mothership core model looks awesome imo. Also did they make the abduct animation look less dumb or am I imagining things?
wcr.4fun
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium686 Posts
September 04 2012 12:59 GMT
#2155
On September 04 2012 21:55 Rimak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 21:50 wcr.4fun wrote:
On September 04 2012 21:39 MavercK wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB2tqx1rlTM&feature=youtu.be


cool now make them fly a little bit less fast, make them killable during flight, let them only hit ground units and put them on the hellion or another unit and you've got yourself an epic unit.

I second that and also there should be changes to mothership:
1. Should be produced from stargate and more than 1 per map.
2. Cost should be 100/350 and 4 food
3. Vortex renamed to Stasis
4. Skin changed
5. Renamed to Arbiter

And also swarm host
1. Instead of creating locust, should attack with the spikes
2. Should be morphed from hydralisk
3. Renamed to Lurker


I second this.
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
September 04 2012 12:59 GMT
#2156
On September 04 2012 21:55 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 21:47 Rah wrote:
On September 04 2012 21:29 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
On September 04 2012 21:28 Rah wrote:
On September 04 2012 20:34 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
On September 04 2012 20:20 Rah wrote:
I think I love warhound now just because of the panicking that it's causing in some of the protoss players on this thread. I don't know if I've ever seen a unit inspire so much terror except for maybe the new mine. Oh no terran's getting something good besides the marine, nerf it!! So funny. Immortal's still going to be as ridiculous as it is now vs mech, don't worry boys.


It's not about playing, I'm shit, I'll always be shit - I don't care about me.
I care about e-sports, I care about good matches being casted which are dynamic, exciting and interesting.
This unit genuinely looks like shit to esports to me, utter trash.


I get it the common consensus right now is that terran winning games without fighting an enormous uphill micro battle = bad for e-sports, but if this unit brings the matchup any closer to Broodwar TvP then consider e-sports improved.



Make the other races deal with an uphill micro battle at the pro level don't dumb it down evenly instead :/
I like seeing cool shit that *I* could never do - you don't see enough (not to say I'm that good but you get me, I hope)

eg: recently squirtle did some slick as fuck warp prism zeppelin micro in a match, it was great.


If Micro was all that could be interesting at a pro level, everyone would be watching WC3 right now. I'd like to see positional play be an option for other match ups besides TvT. Protoss breaking terran lines used to be tense to watch. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's dumbed down.



DOTA2 answers your post. It's micro intensive and it's popular.
Also War 3 is old - it still has a lot of fans and the awesome micro helps that.

TvT is the only good mirror matchup in the game, PvP is intense but repetitive and annoying.

zvz is ok. compared to pvp its amazing lol
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3396 Posts
September 04 2012 12:59 GMT
#2157
So still no word on streams or NDA status?
Would prefer to see those units in practice.
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
September 04 2012 13:01 GMT
#2158
The mines look amazing.
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
September 04 2012 13:01 GMT
#2159
Can someone test, does Widow Mines trigger against locusts/infesteds/broodlings ?
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 13:04:28
September 04 2012 13:02 GMT
#2160
On September 04 2012 21:59 pmp10 wrote:
So still no word on streams or NDA status?
Would prefer to see those units in practice.

Beta has not started and servers are not up, people are making the videos with the map editor, and can only play vs AI, so no streams. Blizz said that the Beta won't be under NDA once it starts, so I expect people to stream it then.

edit: also can you disable the autocast on the mines to trigger them manually? since they deal mostly single target damage it would be so much better if we could control them manually to blow up on big units and not Zealots/lings.
Romanes eunt domus
Prev 1 106 107 108 109 110 144 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 4m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 192
ProTech131
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 8608
Zeus 411
Hyuk 354
Leta 154
Mini 128
Dewaltoss 106
sSak 76
hero 57
Shinee 48
Aegong 48
[ Show more ]
actioN 40
soO 35
Bale 23
Noble 17
ZergMaN 9
Dota 2
XaKoH 273
resolut1ontv 206
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1224
shoxiejesuss913
allub263
Other Games
Happy187
XBOCT164
Mew2King80
Livibee57
amsayoshi31
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick692
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream108
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos848
• Stunt552
Upcoming Events
GSL
1h 4m
Rogue vs Percival
Zoun vs Solar
Replay Cast
15h 34m
GSL
1d 1h
Cure vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Bunny
KCM Race Survival
1d 1h
Big Gabe
1d 3h
Replay Cast
1d 15h
Replay Cast
2 days
Escore
2 days
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
IPSL
3 days
Ret vs Art_Of_Turtle
Radley vs TBD
BSL
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
BSL
4 days
IPSL
4 days
eOnzErG vs TBD
G5 vs Nesh
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Jaedong vs Light
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Snow vs Flash
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-28
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W5
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.