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MavercK
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2181 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 12:49:35
September 04 2012 12:48 GMT
#2121
On September 04 2012 21:46 Brahoono wrote:
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On September 04 2012 21:39 MavercK wrote:



That I actually like a lot. Their range shouldn't be too high though and they HAVE to overkill.


i dont think they overkill
from what i can tell from playing around abit 2 widow mines will not go for the same target at the same time.
also they do not attack hallucinations/timed life units. this includes mules, broodlings, infested terrans, etc.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
September 04 2012 12:49 GMT
#2122
On September 04 2012 21:45 MavercK wrote:
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On September 04 2012 21:43 Cyro wrote:
What is the activation range on the Widow Mine? Its very important, if its lower than 4, you can clear a field of them with a roach and an overseer


range 5
still hits air
it does 160 damage to it's target and then 35 splash damage in a 1.75 radius


oooOOOooo
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Tritanis
Profile Joined November 2007
Poland344 Posts
September 04 2012 12:49 GMT
#2123
Do widow mines get bonus damage from attack upgrades?
Also, is their attack affected by armor? (if it is then a staker should survive the hit with 1 hp)
I live, I serve, I die for the Metal
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
September 04 2012 12:49 GMT
#2124
On September 04 2012 21:47 stichtom wrote:
A question about the window mines.

Can u target a specific unit with them or is it only autocast?


I think the attack is autocast - it will pick its own target, but you can disable the autocast and manually target it
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
September 04 2012 12:50 GMT
#2125
They may as well make swarm hosts spawn with a widow mine already fitted :/
The existence of a food chain is inescapable if we evolved unsupervised, and inexcusable otherwise.
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
September 04 2012 12:50 GMT
#2126
On September 04 2012 21:48 MavercK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 21:46 Brahoono wrote:
On September 04 2012 21:39 MavercK wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB2tqx1rlTM&feature=youtu.be



That I actually like a lot. Their range shouldn't be too high though and they HAVE to overkill.


i dont think they overkill
from what i can tell from playing around abit 2 widow mines will not go for the same target at the same time.


You can really see the zergling rag dolls as well, they don't just explode they keep their momentum as they die haha
Rah
Profile Joined February 2010
United States973 Posts
September 04 2012 12:50 GMT
#2127
On September 04 2012 21:47 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 21:42 Lorch wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 04 2012 21:39 MavercK wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB2tqx1rlTM&feature=youtu.be



Oh I'm so playing mech in this game, spider mines are back :D


Oh my god yes. This is exactly what they need to be like! THANKYOU BLIZZARD!

I've been playing mech in all the matchups for a month or two now and this is badly needed.

Widowmines! <3


That's sick, what would make it perfect though, can the mines be shot before they hit?
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wcr.4fun
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium686 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 12:56:15
September 04 2012 12:50 GMT
#2128
On September 04 2012 21:39 MavercK wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB2tqx1rlTM&feature=youtu.be


cool now make them fly a little bit less fast, make them killable during flight, let them only hit ground units and put them on the hellion or another unit and you've got yourself an epic unit.

Awesome improvement over the old mine though.

On September 04 2012 21:47 Rah wrote:
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On September 04 2012 21:29 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
On September 04 2012 21:28 Rah wrote:
On September 04 2012 20:34 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
On September 04 2012 20:20 Rah wrote:
I think I love warhound now just because of the panicking that it's causing in some of the protoss players on this thread. I don't know if I've ever seen a unit inspire so much terror except for maybe the new mine. Oh no terran's getting something good besides the marine, nerf it!! So funny. Immortal's still going to be as ridiculous as it is now vs mech, don't worry boys.


It's not about playing, I'm shit, I'll always be shit - I don't care about me.
I care about e-sports, I care about good matches being casted which are dynamic, exciting and interesting.
This unit genuinely looks like shit to esports to me, utter trash.


I get it the common consensus right now is that terran winning games without fighting an enormous uphill micro battle = bad for e-sports, but if this unit brings the matchup any closer to Broodwar TvP then consider e-sports improved.



Make the other races deal with an uphill micro battle at the pro level don't dumb it down evenly instead :/
I like seeing cool shit that *I* could never do - you don't see enough (not to say I'm that good but you get me, I hope)

eg: recently squirtle did some slick as fuck warp prism zeppelin micro in a match, it was great.


If Micro was all that could be interesting at a pro level, everyone would be watching WC3 right now. I'd like to see positional play be an option for other match ups besides TvT. Protoss breaking terran lines used to be tense to watch. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's dumbed down.


Wc3 is still pretty huge (china) and was incredibly entertaining to watch. The only reason wc3 pro scene declined is because sc2 came out with incredible prize money and wc3 lost sponsors etc. And the Orc vs undead match up was a pretty uphill battle for undead on the pro level. People love to watch micro. DOTA is all about micro of one hero.
CreatureSC2
Profile Joined July 2010
United States156 Posts
September 04 2012 12:50 GMT
#2129
On September 04 2012 20:12 MavercK wrote:


Can't wait to feedback those full energy vipers as toss. I think a full energy viper dies in one shot to a feedback.
MavercK
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2181 Posts
September 04 2012 12:50 GMT
#2130
Brood War Remake - SC2BW - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145316
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 12:53:59
September 04 2012 12:51 GMT
#2131
New widow mine looks awesome. Mothership core looks kinda cool too.

Still really dislike Swarm host and viper. Swarm host because zerg doesn't need another 'send lots of annoying free pathing blocking crap', and Viper because abduct just seems and looks ridiculous. So much for rewarding good positioning.

Tempest still looks awkward, gimmicky and useless. Don't know about the oracle, depends on range of mineral goop, though its still pretty boring and uneventful to just see someone shift queue goop then have opponent a-move their workers. Its very squishy so too short a range and 1 turret will shut it down.
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 12:52:41
September 04 2012 12:51 GMT
#2132
I feel like if they took autocast off the warhound it would actually be a pretty decent unit. Encourages micro, but not too extensive as its essentially just spam click every few seconds and you get a decent reward for doing so.

EDIT: That said, banshees to force stalkers in to warhound would make for a really tough 1/1/1 to deal with...
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PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
September 04 2012 12:51 GMT
#2133
On September 04 2012 21:50 Rah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 21:47 Qikz wrote:
On September 04 2012 21:42 Lorch wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 04 2012 21:39 MavercK wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB2tqx1rlTM&feature=youtu.be



Oh I'm so playing mech in this game, spider mines are back :D


Oh my god yes. This is exactly what they need to be like! THANKYOU BLIZZARD!

I've been playing mech in all the matchups for a month or two now and this is badly needed.

Widowmines! <3


That's sick, what would make it perfect though, can the mines be shot before they hit?

Probably not but that would be sick lol
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 12:52:47
September 04 2012 12:51 GMT
#2134
Wait,did they just make a spider mine in the end and renamed it lol?
Why even bother renaming it XD
Cackle™
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
September 04 2012 12:51 GMT
#2135
I think Terran will be able to play both mech and bio in any MU. That's amazing.
HDgBober
Profile Joined March 2012
25 Posts
September 04 2012 12:52 GMT
#2136
When EU users will invite?
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 12:53:28
September 04 2012 12:52 GMT
#2137
Wow, instant widowmines makes me excited for HotS again :D :D :D Really hope they won't change them during beta (outside of tweaking numbers ofc.)
Romanes eunt domus
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
September 04 2012 12:52 GMT
#2138
Remember the widow mine is most a single target unit. The video shows zerglings but in the case of other units, it would be so powerful since its AOE damage is just 35. The long range of the widow mine is necessary since it's not a true AOE damage. It does 160 damage only to the one primary target.
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
September 04 2012 12:52 GMT
#2139
On September 04 2012 21:50 MavercK wrote:
http://youtu.be/ljX90DhLcPM


hahahahha its so cute OMG ! I loled so hard , everyone was waiting what will happend
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SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5420 Posts
September 04 2012 12:52 GMT
#2140
Widowmine looks sick. Even better than spidermines since you can uproot and reburrow them somewhere else. ^^
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