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MavercK
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2181 Posts
September 04 2012 12:24 GMT
#2081
On September 04 2012 21:22 mataxp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 21:20 MavercK wrote:

Imagine only 4 of those things behind your mineral line. I dont play zerg, buts that was crazy..


a few of these hiding in a mineral line, choke point.
i dont think you'd ever kill them with zerglings. ever.
Brood War Remake - SC2BW - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145316
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
September 04 2012 12:27 GMT
#2082
On September 04 2012 21:24 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
I wouldnt' be surprised if half the shit in this thread is from the SP campaign :/


Everything shown so far seems pretty consistent with all the announced multi-player stuff, they hadn't shown the different Nydus worms yet but they definitely talked about them.
Rah
Profile Joined February 2010
United States973 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 12:28:27
September 04 2012 12:28 GMT
#2083
On September 04 2012 20:34 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 20:20 Rah wrote:
I think I love warhound now just because of the panicking that it's causing in some of the protoss players on this thread. I don't know if I've ever seen a unit inspire so much terror except for maybe the new mine. Oh no terran's getting something good besides the marine, nerf it!! So funny. Immortal's still going to be as ridiculous as it is now vs mech, don't worry boys.


It's not about playing, I'm shit, I'll always be shit - I don't care about me.
I care about e-sports, I care about good matches being casted which are dynamic, exciting and interesting.
This unit genuinely looks like shit to esports to me, utter trash.


I get it the common consensus right now is that terran winning games without fighting an enormous uphill micro battle = bad for e-sports, but if this unit brings the matchup any closer to Broodwar TvP then consider e-sports improved.
Streaming on twitch. http://www.twitch.tv/rahsun86
GGDeMoN
Profile Joined April 2011
109 Posts
September 04 2012 12:28 GMT
#2084
how do i get the beta?
Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
September 04 2012 12:28 GMT
#2085
On September 04 2012 21:13 _vk_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 21:07 Umpteen wrote:
Actually, I saw a pretty cool suggestion on the battlenet forums: give Locusts cliff jump/climb (rebalancing health/damage as necessary). That way SH's actually can 'nibble' in small numbers from a direction other than right in front of the enemy's main army.


You say "rebalance as necessary" like it's easy.

Would you trust the current game design team at Blizzard to balance a unit with an ability to generate infinite quantities of cliffwalkers? So that it's useful but not OP?


Well, they seem to think it's OK to give Protoss a unit that can park 22-range away in the sky and generate 'infinite quantities' of unstoppable flying banelings (ok, without splash )

Yes, locusts would need to be considerably squishier and do less damage. But I'd be fine with that because there would still be a point to making swarm hosts in small numbers.
The existence of a food chain is inescapable if we evolved unsupervised, and inexcusable otherwise.
Cabinet Sanchez
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia1097 Posts
September 04 2012 12:29 GMT
#2086
On September 04 2012 21:28 Rah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 20:34 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
On September 04 2012 20:20 Rah wrote:
I think I love warhound now just because of the panicking that it's causing in some of the protoss players on this thread. I don't know if I've ever seen a unit inspire so much terror except for maybe the new mine. Oh no terran's getting something good besides the marine, nerf it!! So funny. Immortal's still going to be as ridiculous as it is now vs mech, don't worry boys.


It's not about playing, I'm shit, I'll always be shit - I don't care about me.
I care about e-sports, I care about good matches being casted which are dynamic, exciting and interesting.
This unit genuinely looks like shit to esports to me, utter trash.


I get it the common consensus right now is that terran winning games without fighting an enormous uphill micro battle = bad for e-sports, but if this unit brings the matchup any closer to Broodwar TvP then consider e-sports improved.



Make the other races deal with an uphill micro battle at the pro level don't dumb it down evenly instead :/
I like seeing cool shit that *I* could never do - you don't see enough (not to say I'm that good but you get me, I hope)

eg: recently squirtle did some slick as fuck warp prism zeppelin micro in a match, it was great.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
September 04 2012 12:30 GMT
#2087
On September 04 2012 21:28 Rah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 20:34 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
On September 04 2012 20:20 Rah wrote:
I think I love warhound now just because of the panicking that it's causing in some of the protoss players on this thread. I don't know if I've ever seen a unit inspire so much terror except for maybe the new mine. Oh no terran's getting something good besides the marine, nerf it!! So funny. Immortal's still going to be as ridiculous as it is now vs mech, don't worry boys.


It's not about playing, I'm shit, I'll always be shit - I don't care about me.
I care about e-sports, I care about good matches being casted which are dynamic, exciting and interesting.
This unit genuinely looks like shit to esports to me, utter trash.


I get that the common consensus right now is that terran winning games without fighting an enormous uphill micro battle = bad for e-sports, but if this unit brings the matchup any closer to Broodwar TvP then consider e-sports improved.


Broodwar TvP was very largely about the Siege tank, and vultures, which required careful positioning and micro and the main force of your army was very immobile, the concern with HOTS "mech" is that it SEEMS like is not immobile at all, there seems to be very little reason to build siege tanks vs protoss when battlehellion/warhound will do better for lower costs AND be more mobile, and you can just blob and amove them without any micro, control, positioning or specific timing whatsoever
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cabinet Sanchez
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia1097 Posts
September 04 2012 12:32 GMT
#2088
On September 04 2012 21:30 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 21:28 Rah wrote:
On September 04 2012 20:34 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
On September 04 2012 20:20 Rah wrote:
I think I love warhound now just because of the panicking that it's causing in some of the protoss players on this thread. I don't know if I've ever seen a unit inspire so much terror except for maybe the new mine. Oh no terran's getting something good besides the marine, nerf it!! So funny. Immortal's still going to be as ridiculous as it is now vs mech, don't worry boys.


It's not about playing, I'm shit, I'll always be shit - I don't care about me.
I care about e-sports, I care about good matches being casted which are dynamic, exciting and interesting.
This unit genuinely looks like shit to esports to me, utter trash.


I get that the common consensus right now is that terran winning games without fighting an enormous uphill micro battle = bad for e-sports, but if this unit brings the matchup any closer to Broodwar TvP then consider e-sports improved.


Broodwar TvP was very largely about the Siege tank, and vultures, which required careful positioning and micro and the main force of your army was very immobile, the concern with HOTS "mech" is that it SEEMS like is not immobile at all, there seems to be very little reason to build siege tanks vs protoss when battlehellion/warhound will do better for lower costs AND be more mobile, and you can just blob and amove them without any micro, control, positioning or specific timing whatsoever


Prettymuch this. It seems like teir 2 units are just so completely decimated by teir 1 units en masse, without major micro.
I mean this isn't a blanket rule but I get that overall impression.

The only unit which seems fucking fearful when it comes out to me is a BC or a BL.
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
September 04 2012 12:34 GMT
#2089
On September 04 2012 21:28 GGDeMoN wrote:
how do i get the beta?


-_- read the thread... ?
I hate people that just post on last site of thread with question , and they dont read the rest of it.
SC 2 -LingsLover- EU -- Jaedong , NesTea , Nerchio , DRG , Moon , Oz , Tarson , Scarlett -- Dota 2 Pallad EU- NaVi - LGD
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
September 04 2012 12:34 GMT
#2090
On September 04 2012 21:23 pallad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 21:22 Linwelin wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/NiDKN.jpg

What did I break? : (


Dont instal in same place that WoL , delete old sc2 1.5 beta folder if you have one in past.. and you should be fine.


I'm not installing same place as WoL and I don't have other sc2 folders with beta/arcade or whatever else
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
September 04 2012 12:35 GMT
#2091
On September 04 2012 21:24 MavercK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 21:22 mataxp wrote:
On September 04 2012 21:20 MavercK wrote:
http://youtu.be/0UeEQPqEMG4

Imagine only 4 of those things behind your mineral line. I dont play zerg, buts that was crazy..


a few of these hiding in a mineral line, choke point.
i dont think you'd ever kill them with zerglings. ever.


finally zergs can not crush everything terran has with mass zergling....
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
robhoward
Profile Joined February 2011
79 Posts
September 04 2012 12:35 GMT
#2092
On September 04 2012 21:34 pallad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 21:28 GGDeMoN wrote:
how do i get the beta?


-_- read the thread... ?
I hate people that just post on last site of thread with question , and they dont read the rest of it.


You honestly expect people to go back and read 105 pages of posts?
DuckNuked
Profile Joined June 2012
France60 Posts
September 04 2012 12:36 GMT
#2093
It could change if Blizzard buffs the tanks to something like WoL Beta. Alongside you can nerf other mech units like the warhound.

Only Match-up were Tanks in Mech are very interesting right now is TvT. In TvZ past 2-2 mech upgrades, Thor are better, even in killing Roaches. And I don't talk about TvP.
Terran Forum "TvP HELP", Protoss Forum "PvZ HELP!", Zerg Forum: "What use for Hydra???"
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
September 04 2012 12:36 GMT
#2094
On September 04 2012 21:35 robhoward wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 21:34 pallad wrote:
On September 04 2012 21:28 GGDeMoN wrote:
how do i get the beta?


-_- read the thread... ?
I hate people that just post on last site of thread with question , and they dont read the rest of it.


You honestly expect people to go back and read 105 pages of posts?


You can at least read the last 10 pages or so
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
September 04 2012 12:37 GMT
#2095
On September 04 2012 21:20 MavercK wrote:
http://youtu.be/0UeEQPqEMG4

@_@
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
MavercK
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2181 Posts
September 04 2012 12:39 GMT
#2096
Brood War Remake - SC2BW - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145316
bhfberserk
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada390 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 12:42:39
September 04 2012 12:40 GMT
#2097
^ THAT LOOKS COMPLETELY EPIC!!! edit:* I was referring the Hell Lions

New Widow mine looks and feels much better than 10 secs counter.
malaan
Profile Joined September 2010
365 Posts
September 04 2012 12:40 GMT
#2098
about time terran had some fearsome units... zerg lategame pretty much laughs in the terrans face right now. Not anymore :p
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
September 04 2012 12:40 GMT
#2099
SPIDERMINES ARE BACK IN FULL FORCE AND THEN SOME
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
September 04 2012 12:41 GMT
#2100
The animation for the widow mines looks absolutely amazing I've gotta say.
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