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Sorkoas
Profile Joined May 2010
549 Posts
August 01 2012 08:16 GMT
#21
On August 01 2012 16:18 Synapze wrote:
Is there a reason blizzard doesn't let you set a control group modifier to something other than alt/ctrl? These keys are the main reason people get carpal tunnel. Control especially. If blizzard let us use mouse 5 for example, people would be injured much less.

The use of Shift/Ctrl/Alt keys in combination with number keys are what cause these issues, and they should seriously look into a different approach.

Got any source for your claims?
CaptainAmerica
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States89 Posts
August 01 2012 08:21 GMT
#22
you can also swap the space bar with your control key (or any other two keys) outside of sc2. like right now i am typing this with the ctrl key as my space bar which slows me down, but then in-game the space is my ctrl key =D. i use a razer marauder and can swap the key functions within the razer software. then, the key swap is about three clicks away. there are other ways to do this as well if you don't own a razer keyboard...i think. gl hf
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VATO_Gandair
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States232 Posts
August 01 2012 08:36 GMT
#23
I thought it was your cubital tunnel that affected that side of the hand? I've had cubital tunnel issues since november. Carpal is the thumb and index finger side of the hand. Cubital is pinky and ring from what I'm told.
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Synapze
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada563 Posts
August 01 2012 08:38 GMT
#24
On August 01 2012 17:21 CaptainAmerica wrote:
you can also swap the space bar with your control key (or any other two keys) outside of sc2. like right now i am typing this with the ctrl key as my space bar which slows me down, but then in-game the space is my ctrl key =D. i use a razer marauder and can swap the key functions within the razer software. then, the key swap is about three clicks away. there are other ways to do this as well if you don't own a razer keyboard...i think. gl hf


Thanks, I will try and see of my laptop keyboard can reprogram.. it's designed by steel-series so there hopefully is some functionality.
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bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
August 01 2012 09:04 GMT
#25
You realize the pinky finger has nothing to do with carpal tunnel right? xD
buckKeefe
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States63 Posts
August 01 2012 09:11 GMT
#26
why not remap capslock to control? you dont need capslock anyway, and its pretty easy to do in any operating system, especially OS X. i can't imagine playing any other way, although i guess that could be a problem at LANs if you can't set it up the way you want.
MilesTeg
Profile Joined September 2010
France1271 Posts
August 01 2012 09:16 GMT
#27
What I would've loved to do but couldn't with a razer mouse is use a ctrl+click macro for the middle mouse button. I feel this would help so much, especially for a Zerg struggling to select zerglings and such. Is anyone doing that?
Arcanefrost
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium1257 Posts
August 01 2012 09:24 GMT
#28
You are wrong, carpal tunnel is caused by an abnormally high repetition of movements. Ctrl/shift have nothing to do with it.
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SpeaKEaSY
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1070 Posts
August 01 2012 09:33 GMT
#29
I have CTRL mapped to capslock via a switch on my keyboard, makes it a lot more comfortable.
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Detri
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom683 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 09:53:50
August 01 2012 09:41 GMT
#30
As someone with CTS, I find this OP nonsense. Do you even know what CTS is? Or what causes it?


<edit> realised my post wasn't useful at all, CTS is a repetitive strain injury caused by repetitive movement, ie spamming ANY keys this is why I play with about 80ish apm, because I try my best not to over spam keys when I play. Your mouse hand is far more prone to it than your keyboard hand. It affects the thumb and 2 forefingers on the right side on your left hand, not your pinky finger. It's an entirely different nerve.

The median nerve whats effected by CTS, pressure builds up in the carpal sheath due to scar tissue/odema(swelling) so its actually more to do with your wrist than you fingers.

Misinformation like this is dangerous, you should atleast try to google something to make sure you have your facts straight before making a thread on a site populated entirely by gamers.

I hope no-one takes this shit seriously!

</edit>
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xwoGworwaTsx
Profile Joined April 2012
United States984 Posts
August 01 2012 09:45 GMT
#31
Agree. Cltr and Alt should be customized as well
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
August 01 2012 09:48 GMT
#32
On August 01 2012 16:21 eScaper-tsunami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2012 16:18 Synapze wrote:
Is there a reason blizzard doesn't let you set a control group modifier to something other than alt/ctrl? These keys are the main reason people get carpal tunnel. Control especially. If blizzard let us use mouse 5 for example, people would be injured much less.

The use of Shift/Ctrl/Alt keys in combination with number keys are what cause these issues, and they should seriously look into a different approach.


Which finger do you use to press ctrl and alt?


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Detri
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom683 Posts
August 01 2012 09:55 GMT
#33
On August 01 2012 17:21 CaptainAmerica wrote:
you can also swap the space bar with your control key (or any other two keys) outside of sc2. like right now i am typing this with the ctrl key as my space bar which slows me down, but then in-game the space is my ctrl key =D. i use a razer marauder and can swap the key functions within the razer software. then, the key swap is about three clicks away. there are other ways to do this as well if you don't own a razer keyboard...i think. gl hf



just change your ingame hotkeys. seems like alot of annoyance for no reason.
The poor are thieves, beggars and whores, the rich are politicians, solicitors and courtesans...
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
August 01 2012 09:57 GMT
#34
On August 01 2012 18:48 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2012 16:21 eScaper-tsunami wrote:
On August 01 2012 16:18 Synapze wrote:
Is there a reason blizzard doesn't let you set a control group modifier to something other than alt/ctrl? These keys are the main reason people get carpal tunnel. Control especially. If blizzard let us use mouse 5 for example, people would be injured much less.

The use of Shift/Ctrl/Alt keys in combination with number keys are what cause these issues, and they should seriously look into a different approach.


Which finger do you use to press ctrl and alt?


Thumb

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Giku
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands368 Posts
August 01 2012 10:00 GMT
#35
On August 01 2012 17:13 Ercster wrote:
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On August 01 2012 16:24 intense555 wrote:
For some reason I don't have any problems with Carpal Tunnel, I keep my hands elevated above my elbows about 1-2 inches and my hands in an angle like this / \

I've seen a physical therapist for possible carpal tunnel, it turned out to be pulled nerves instead, but he was saying that the best posture one should use is 90 degrees. So you have your wrists straight and elbows at 90 degree angles, then your knees should be at 90 degrees too.
Like this:
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This has to be common knowledge for sure?
I've had this setup for about 10 years, it also feels the best if you sit like this, sure I might hang back when I'm watching a youtube/movie-clip (as in, my whole chair hangs backwards) but my basic posture is this.
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
August 01 2012 10:05 GMT
#36
On August 01 2012 18:48 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2012 16:21 eScaper-tsunami wrote:
On August 01 2012 16:18 Synapze wrote:
Is there a reason blizzard doesn't let you set a control group modifier to something other than alt/ctrl? These keys are the main reason people get carpal tunnel. Control especially. If blizzard let us use mouse 5 for example, people would be injured much less.

The use of Shift/Ctrl/Alt keys in combination with number keys are what cause these issues, and they should seriously look into a different approach.


Which finger do you use to press ctrl and alt?


Thumb

Feels amazing

Haha, HuK does that as well.
Kroml
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 10:11:25
August 01 2012 10:09 GMT
#37
Blizzard is killing Nervus Medianus, thus players, thus e-sports...
CaptainAmerica
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States89 Posts
August 01 2012 10:20 GMT
#38
On August 01 2012 18:55 Detri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2012 17:21 CaptainAmerica wrote:
you can also swap the space bar with your control key (or any other two keys) outside of sc2. like right now i am typing this with the ctrl key as my space bar which slows me down, but then in-game the space is my ctrl key =D. i use a razer marauder and can swap the key functions within the razer software. then, the key swap is about three clicks away. there are other ways to do this as well if you don't own a razer keyboard...i think. gl hf



just change your ingame hotkeys. seems like alot of annoyance for no reason.


NO, this is different. you can't make "space + 1" = create control group 1. only "alt," "ctrl," and "shift" can serve the function of "space" in that equation...so remap any other key, using external software, to the function of alt, ctrl, or shift and THEN change your in-game hotkeys. OR, not.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
August 01 2012 12:03 GMT
#39
this isn't threadworthy.
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