NBA Playoffs 2012 - Page 66

On May 10 2012 09:42 justinpal wrote:
I have commentary on mute. My neighbors were complaining about loud slurping noises.

On May 10 2012 09:32 XaI)CyRiC wrote:


The argument most people had for being against the inclusion of Gordon in the deal was that the Clippers were already giving up more than any other team could offer the Hornets in terms of youth and picks. The assumption was that present value wasn't going to cut it since Stern allegedly vetoed the Lakers-Rockets trade because he thought it was better for the Hornets to go young with picks (ironically, implying that the league approved with the tanking-to-improve strategy). Once you took out any deals not involving present value, the Clippers had virtually no competitors for CP3 since no other team could offer a better deal with regards to to picks and youth.

The bullshit was that the Hornets would almost certainly have taken the non-Gordon version of the deal (if I remember correctly, the original position was Gordon OR the pick), but that they were able to get Gordon included only because Stern was forcing the Clippers to give up more with his recently-demonstrated veto power. The commissioner of the NBA making personnel decisions for a league-owned team that was supposed to be run independently in the midst of the CBA negotiations centered around handicapping big market teams (like those in LA) was an egregious abuse of a blatant conflict of interest by itself, but Stern took it one step further by providing the Hornets with bargaining power/leverage against the Clippers that would not have existed but for that abuse.

So not only did he screw the Lakers (and Rockets to some extent) by vetoing an agreed-upon trade between parties who negotiated fairly without any sign of collusion or improperity, which had NEVER happened before, he also screwed the Clippers by forcing them to include Gordon in the trade for CP3 when all signs prior were that the Hornets would've accepted a non-Gordon version of the trade. Again, it cannot be stressed enough that the Hornets had absolutely NO leverage at all because CP3 was guaranteed to walk next season and everyone knew it.

So, to address your post, the question we should be asking is how much MORE dangerous the Clippers would be if they had been able to field a roster this season that included Paul, Gordon and Griffin. Look at what Paul has been able to accomplish with Foye playing SG next to him, and consider how much more he'd bea ble to accomplish with Gordon.

On May 10 2012 10:24 justinpal wrote:
What I don't understand is why the Knicks don't keep Novak on the floor. He spaces the defense so well and he can guard Batier or Miller on defense. If the Heat do fall asleep on him, he is a guy who can make a shot.

On May 10 2012 10:27 Ace wrote:


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Have you seen what the Heat did to Novak?

On May 10 2012 10:24 justinpal wrote:
What I don't understand is why the Knicks don't keep Novak on the floor. He spaces the defense so well and he can guard Batier or Miller on defense. If the Heat do fall asleep on him, he is a guy who can make a shot.

On May 10 2012 10:30 Bonzinator wrote:


No defense, can't rebound much. And he ain't getting much of the shots off with Miami really playing him tight.
You could say that would open space for others, but they just throw the ball to Melo and stand there. He throws its up, lots of contested ones as well and thats about it. Hence Amare'e has 7 attempts. 7? Melo has 28. That's just bad basketball.

On May 10 2012 10:30 justinpal wrote:


So you think its better for them to just ignore Bibby or Fields when they are standing on the perimeter? Allowing them to easily help in the paint. Novak keeps them away from the paint and the offensive glass. Not everything is about scoring. Just my two cents.