EPTNBA Playoffs 2012 - Page 65
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7908766/a-rare-interview-former-no-1-overall-pick-greg-oden-injury-plagued-career Additional interesting read about the injuries to Oden and other Blazers players (Roy and Przybilla), suggesting that Portland's medical staff may be partly to blame for the "bad luck" regarding injuries: http://zigsports.wordpress.com/2012/04/05/greg-oden-brandon-roy-what-what-happened/ It will be interesting to see what happens with the injuries to Aldridge and Batum. I know people were suggesting that the Blazers onlys at those guys to tank for a higher draft pick, but I have my doubts (especially Batum who was playing hurt for a few games). Sounds like Portland is the anti-Phoenix in terms of medical staff, which is a shame since they obviously have access to the same technology and techniques. | ||
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Daozzt
United States1263 Posts
On May 10 2012 04:04 krndandaman wrote: to be fair the 3 shots before the last 3 were all 3pointers (2 of them pretty tough) and the last 3 shots were all very difficult shots I think everyone knows that Kobe bricks a lot of game winners. It's just that there's a lot of hype when Kobe's taking the last shot, and it's always exciting to watch even if it's an iso leading to a contested 3 over two defenders. | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
that and I'm sure its nice to recover in arizona without much weathet fluctuation compared to portland, the rainiest city in the nba now that seattle and vancouver are out. | ||
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Coolness53
United States668 Posts
On May 10 2012 05:58 Daozzt wrote: I think everyone knows that Kobe bricks a lot of game winners. It's just that there's a lot of hype when Kobe's taking the last shot, and it's always exciting to watch even if it's an iso leading to a contested 3 over two defenders. Well Kobe still is really awesome in the 4th. The amount of points they were behind was to hard to catch back up from. There defense was awful in game 5. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On May 10 2012 06:33 krndandaman wrote: to be fair the 3 shots made before the last 3* sorry forgot to include that lol kobe made 3 threes in a row within 2 minutes i dont see why people would call that anti-clutch if he made all 6 shots he'd be a god. Hold on .. Kobe isnt God ? | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
On May 10 2012 04:22 XaI)CyRiC wrote: Interesting read about Oden that gives a glimpse into the life of a player who few people know much about: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7908766/a-rare-interview-former-no-1-overall-pick-greg-oden-injury-plagued-career Additional interesting read about the injuries to Oden and other Blazers players (Roy and Przybilla), suggesting that Portland's medical staff may be partly to blame for the "bad luck" regarding injuries: http://zigsports.wordpress.com/2012/04/05/greg-oden-brandon-roy-what-what-happened/ It will be interesting to see what happens with the injuries to Aldridge and Batum. I know people were suggesting that the Blazers onlys at those guys to tank for a higher draft pick, but I have my doubts (especially Batum who was playing hurt for a few games). Sounds like Portland is the anti-Phoenix in terms of medical staff, which is a shame since they obviously have access to the same technology and techniques. Simmons has some weird points he likes to press, but I would like to see Oden with a Phoenix Suns caliber training staff. There was an espn story that explores (and demystifies) the Suns' training staff. They have a weekly schedule of making measurements of small stabilizer muscles, so they're able to prevent a lot of future injuries by adapting the athlete's training routines. http://valleyofthesuns.com/2012/04/05/secret-behind-phoenix-suns-elite-training-staff/ If there's a chance that a really good training staff could salvage an elite level talent's career, I want to see it. And frankly, the things they do sound like exactly like what would help him play basketball, if it is possible. | ||
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Bonzinator
Slovenia862 Posts
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
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justinpal
United States3810 Posts
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VENDIZ
1575 Posts
On May 10 2012 08:07 igotmyown wrote: And by the way, I'd like to ask for a re-evaluation for everyone who said throwing in Eric Gordon was way too steep a price to pay for Chris Paul. What was the argument, he wouldn't be quite as good, but he still had good value/potential for his salary? Recant your blasphemy. Not that I was one of those who said so, but iirc the CP3 trade went through before the Clippers picked up Billups? If that is the case, then I imagine people would be afraid of the SG position where they had no proper starter, but Billups came in and was able to fill the gap fairly well ..but like I said, I'm not 100% certain, but to me that would sound somewhat logical | ||
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Bonzinator
Slovenia862 Posts
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justinpal
United States3810 Posts
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Bonzinator
Slovenia862 Posts
On May 10 2012 08:37 justinpal wrote: This commentary is putting me to sleep. Gosh i miss Jeff Van Gundy and Mark Jackson  | ||
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Bonzinator
Slovenia862 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
On May 10 2012 08:07 igotmyown wrote: And by the way, I'd like to ask for a re-evaluation for everyone who said throwing in Eric Gordon was way too steep a price to pay for Chris Paul. What was the argument, he wouldn't be quite as good, but he still had good value/potential for his salary? Recant your blasphemy. The argument most people had for being against the inclusion of Gordon in the deal was that the Clippers were already giving up more than any other team could offer the Hornets in terms of youth and picks. The assumption was that present value wasn't going to cut it since Stern allegedly vetoed the Lakers-Rockets trade because he thought it was better for the Hornets to go young with picks (ironically, implying that the league approved with the tanking-to-improve strategy). Once you took out any deals not involving present value, the Clippers had virtually no competitors for CP3 since no other team could offer a better deal with regards to to picks and youth. The bullshit was that the Hornets would almost certainly have taken the non-Gordon version of the deal (if I remember correctly, the original position was Gordon OR the pick), but that they were able to get Gordon included only because Stern was forcing the Clippers to give up more with his recently-demonstrated veto power. The commissioner of the NBA making personnel decisions for a league-owned team that was supposed to be run independently in the midst of the CBA negotiations centered around handicapping big market teams (like those in LA) was an egregious abuse of a blatant conflict of interest by itself, but Stern took it one step further by providing the Hornets with bargaining power/leverage against the Clippers that would not have existed but for that abuse. So not only did he screw the Lakers (and Rockets to some extent) by vetoing an agreed-upon trade between parties who negotiated fairly without any sign of collusion or improperity, which had NEVER happened before, he also screwed the Clippers by forcing them to include Gordon in the trade for CP3 when all signs prior were that the Hornets would've accepted a non-Gordon version of the trade. Again, it cannot be stressed enough that the Hornets had absolutely NO leverage at all because CP3 was guaranteed to walk next season and everyone knew it. So, to address your post, the question we should be asking is how much MORE dangerous the Clippers would be if they had been able to field a roster this season that included Paul, Gordon and Griffin. Look at what Paul has been able to accomplish with Foye playing SG next to him, and consider how much more he'd bea ble to accomplish with Gordon. | ||
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heliusx
United States2306 Posts
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justinpal
United States3810 Posts
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