EPTNBA Playoffs 2012 - Page 316
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On June 20 2012 12:57 XaI)CyRiC wrote: Quick thoughts: 1. Harden is losing this series for the Thunder. I don't think any elaboration is necessary. 2. That one play where Fisher chose not to pass the ball to Westbrook on the break and instead chose to drive right into the teeth of the MIA defense and get blocked was a huge mistake. It resulted in a 4 point turnaround and broke Westbrook's rhythm. 3. In line with the last one, who told Westbrook to stop recklessly attacking the basket at the end? I know Durant is the marquee player, but why insist on trying to get him the ball at the expense of going away from what had become a guaranteed basket every time down the court? 4. I know that we generally frown on complaining about refereeing, and definitely against using it as an excuse for a loss, but I can't help but feel that OKC got shafted by the refs this game. There were so many phantom fouls, ticky tack fouls, and no-calls that went against the Thunder all game, more than a few on key plays. The reffing wasn't the reason why the Thunder lost, but you can't ignore that the reffing was pretty one-sidedly bad this game. For point 4, just me or has it been prevalent the entire series? Not really complaining, but I keep feeling like it. edit: or maybe it's just crazy home court advantage. Well, OKC can't win playing this way anyway. | ||
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OreoBoi
Canada1639 Posts
As much hate a westbrook is gonna get, I don't think 2 rebounds for KD and 8 points for Harden is going to cut it. | ||
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Gladiator MG
United States178 Posts
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city42
1656 Posts
On June 20 2012 13:21 rabidch wrote: For point 4, just me or has it been prevalent the entire series? Not really complaining, but I keep feeling like it. Overall the calls have been skewed toward Miami (in my opinion), but Harden is a much bigger issue. This is a big time scorer off the bench who can carry the offense for big stretches. OKC can't exactly adjust to having him disappear, since he is the only bench offense they have. | ||
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TieN.nS)
United States2131 Posts
On June 20 2012 13:21 rabidch wrote: For point 4, just me or has it been prevalent the entire series? Not really complaining, but I keep feeling like it. Fouls generally go to the aggressor, which has been the Heat. Plus OKC likes to reach when they get beat, while Miami just lets them go and trusts the bigs to defend. On June 20 2012 13:24 city42 wrote: Overall the calls have been skewed toward Miami (in my opinion), but Harden is a much bigger issue. This is a big time scorer off the bench who can carry the offense for big stretches. OKC can't exactly adjust to having him disappear, since he is the only bench offense they have. I'd put this on Scott Brooks. Can't put Harden against LeBron and expect him to have any gas left for offense. | ||
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leo23
United States3075 Posts
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
On June 20 2012 13:23 Gladiator MG wrote: Harden had a terrible shooting night but the thing that seemed off to me was that KD only had two rebounds. Being 6'11, you would think he could grab at least five to seven but I guess he just doesn't play physical enough for that to happen. KD is 6'9" lol. It's only 2 inches' worth of difference but it's pretty huge. 6'9" is already quite tall though. Makes him seem very thin because he doesn't weigh that much and is really tall. On June 20 2012 13:25 leo23 wrote: lebrons three point was soooooo huge man... its going to be a gatorade commercial calling it Welcome back hehe. Dang I missed a lot of the highlights including that one I think...will havta go watch some recaps for sure. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
Also, they're in a tough spot with Lebron. You can't really double him off the dribble with his passing and he's having a great time posting up (weird!) players who play some really bad man defense in the post. | ||
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leo23
United States3075 Posts
anyways i think heat will take game 5 2012 NBA CHAMPS BABY | ||
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Gladiator MG
United States178 Posts
On June 20 2012 13:25 Aerisky wrote: KD is 6'9" lol. It's only 2 inches' worth of difference but it's pretty huge. 6'9" is already quite tall though. Makes him seem very thin because he doesn't weigh that much and is really tall. Welcome back hehe. Dang I missed a lot of the highlights including that one I think...will havta go watch some recaps for sure. Don't know why I thought he was 6'11 but still he should be able to grab more than two at 6' 9". | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
On June 20 2012 13:26 slyboogie wrote: It was less "phantom" calls than ticky-tack fouls that went against the Thunder and a lot of no-calls for the Heat. That's not an excuse though, The Thunder's defense was pretty spotty tonight - this is the one team where they can't cover up their flaws with length and athleticism. Also, they're in a tough spot with Lebron. You can't really double him off the dribble with his passing and he's having a great time posting up (weird!) players who play some really bad man defense in the post. I don't think it's that weird, there was even this big SI article about how LBJ wanted to reinvent himself or whatever during the offseason, talked to Olajuwon about the Dream Shake and posting up and all that stuff. But of course I guess that's the point--he wanted to make himself just that much harder to deal with and perhaps it's working. But yeah, Thunder's defense really was pretty weak for several stretches. On June 20 2012 13:29 Gladiator MG wrote: Don't know why I thought he was 6'11 but still he should be able to grab more than two at 6' 9". Yeah I know, I agree that he probably should have been able to grab some more boards. | ||
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Leyra
United States1222 Posts
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TieN.nS)
United States2131 Posts
On June 20 2012 13:29 Gladiator MG wrote: Don't know why I thought he was 6'11 but still he should be able to grab more than two at 6' 9". 6'10" with shoes (most players listed with shoes), 7'4" wingspan too. Westbrook with a great response to a question about media criticism in his presser tonight: "No. Let me get this straight. What you guys say doesn't make me happy, doesn't make me sad. Doesn't do anything. It's all about my team and us winning a game. I don't have a personal challenge against you guys, and it's not me against the world. It's not the world against me. It's me and my teammates trying to win." | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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Candadar
2049 Posts
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On June 20 2012 13:37 Ace wrote: I wonder when someone in the media (of course not) is going to bring up Miami players going off whenever Durant guards them. Never, unless he pulls a Lebron and leaves for a big-market team and announces his decision through a tv show. | ||
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TieN.nS)
United States2131 Posts
On June 20 2012 13:37 Ace wrote: I wonder when someone in the media (of course not) is going to bring up Miami players going off whenever Durant guards them. Of course not. Durant is the best player in the world and was robbed of an MVP. So what if he's not as good (as in, not even in the same league) of a defender, rebounder, playmaker, and is less efficient on offense compared to LeBron? LeBron has no 4th quarter!!! Here's Rio's response to a question about the Thunder putting Durant on him tonight: "I took that as a little sign of disrespect." | ||
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thuracine
United States582 Posts
On June 20 2012 13:29 Gladiator MG wrote: Don't know why I thought he was 6'11 but still he should be able to grab more than two at 6' 9". This is where the OKC length should have a advantage, there not boxing out and being aggressive on the boards. Soon as they realize they are the better team no one will stand a chance. OKC blew there chance to sweep and let Miami steal 3 games. Can OKC still win it? Yes. Will they? Not looking good. Who will stop them next year? Good Luck | ||
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BlackJack
United States10496 Posts
On June 20 2012 13:23 Gladiator MG wrote: Harden had a terrible shooting night but the thing that seemed off to me was that KD only had two rebounds. Being 6'11, you would think he could grab at least five to seven but I guess he just doesn't play physical enough for that to happen. He does grab 5-7. His career average is 6.6 and his career playoff average is 7.8. | ||
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