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The subject of this thread is not a license to roll out your inaccurate, misinformed, poorly conceived, tired, and downright offensive theories about race relations.
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
March 08 2012 22:18 GMT
#201
I don't look at such things as racist.
It's not like Orb hates black guys cuz he calls sum1 a nigger.

It's very very immature, and not acceptable from a community caster that's for sure.

But racist? nah
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 22:22:03
March 08 2012 22:18 GMT
#202
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
March 08 2012 22:18 GMT
#203
On March 09 2012 07:17 CounterOrder wrote:
This community is so sensitive. A total of 5 threads is made over a guy raging. Seriously?


Yes because people are bored and want to play jury duty from the comfort of their home. Also, bm is exactly that...bad manners when you rage. It's meant to hurt the receiver.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
gh0un
Profile Joined March 2011
601 Posts
March 08 2012 22:18 GMT
#204
Wow orb raged during a game and used the n word, that definitely makes him a racist.
Way overblown, everyone rages and says stuff they dont mean and they especially dont make anyone racist.
Its a competitive game, and in competitive environments, shit is being talked.

If Eg feels the need to put ramifications on orb, then they should start with idra first, otherwise they are just being hypocritical.
Idra used similar words in live tournaments (fuck you vs huk), and its as bad as the n word, because im quite sure that orb isnt using the word literally, its just an insult completely unrelated to whether he is racist or not.

If he had said something like "i hate black people" then i would understand all this rufus, but he didnt do that.
Way overblown.
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
March 08 2012 22:19 GMT
#205
So has he been banned from the universe yet? I don't have time to read through all these threads.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
Prime Directive
Profile Joined December 2011
United States186 Posts
March 08 2012 22:19 GMT
#206
1. He lied about it
2. People should just try to be decent to each other on bnet
NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
March 08 2012 22:20 GMT
#207
People don't get that he lied to the organisation that invited him to their house, associated their name with his and even took stand for him when he assured them it was not him.
He makes EG look bad after what they did for him, and above all he thinks you are all retarded enough to gobble up the shit he makes up.

If anything you should feel insulted he thinks you are that stupid.
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
March 08 2012 22:20 GMT
#208
I don't really care about the drama but this definitely puts orb in the white redneck douche bag category for me.. people still use nigger as an insult these days?
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Vincanity
Profile Joined March 2012
5 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 22:34:44
March 08 2012 22:20 GMT
#209
--nuked--

User was banned for this post.
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
March 08 2012 22:20 GMT
#210
If Orb just would have told the truth, almost nobody would have given a shit. Instead by piling lies on top of lies he made the situation ten times worse. This is a mess completely of his own doing.
IreScath
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada521 Posts
March 08 2012 22:20 GMT
#211
I wonder how many people we would get all up in arms at in the NHL, NFL, NBA about for trash talking during a game.... I just wonder how many times something terrible gets said every few SECONDS in those games...

really....

It would be different IMO if this was during an even where he was representing anyone but himself.... But come on....

There are hundreds of things we could be puting this effort towards... How about we close the thread and go help out all that Kony stuff... Lets get that guy the F out of commision. WHat do you all say?
IreScath
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
March 08 2012 22:20 GMT
#212
On March 09 2012 07:13 Corrosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 07:10 legaton wrote:
Katu, Orb, IEM drama about the hostel, it is amazing how such a small community as the SC2 fans can create so much drama on so little time. it's like a never-ending influx of Joseph Kony like causes. I'm sure SC2 is going to disappear as an industry. Not only the community is small, but it is so full of itself, uptight and self-righteous, it would be crazy to put any money on it. Tournament organizers and sponsors get burned constantly and must make wonders (SC2 standards for tournaments are several times higher that for any other game) just to satisfy a mere 20 000/40 000 viewers.


IEM drama? Do you call anyone talking about anything drama? It was just players saying they had small hotel rooms. No drama.

I'd rather have a community full of people who actually care when public figures start spewing out words like nigger and faggot while streaming to the public than a community of people who dont care at all.

Plus if you think there are only 20,000 viewers you are pretty oblivious.


Hope you enjoyed your Joseph Kony action kit

But it could actually work, let's imagine a better world, a world without racism, we could do it if we all up-voted the newly created Facebook page: "say no to racism in E-sports" and liked the youtube video: "Pro-gamers against racial slurs". TL could even sell t-shirts and pins. I would love a "saying n**** hurts e-sports" t-shirt.
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
March 08 2012 22:20 GMT
#213
On March 09 2012 07:19 Prime Directive wrote:
1. He lied about it
2. People should just try to be decent to each other on bnet


1. He maybe panicked.
2. Yeah, right, like that's gonna happen.

And even Day9 and Artosis rage on ladder.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Denizen[9]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States649 Posts
March 08 2012 22:20 GMT
#214
why would he continue saying it after he got cought, its obviously fake
Jaedong, Baby | Idra, Marineking, Tester, Nada
antihobo
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada121 Posts
March 08 2012 22:20 GMT
#215
Hey orb, quit it.

Love orb, really hope he stays with EG.

The only way I find this offensive is in the sense that I didn't know he raged like a COD player. They're are way better ways to rage orb. You're a smart guy, quit it.
takin yer ladder points
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
March 08 2012 22:20 GMT
#216
Even if you're raging, it's dumb to say shit like that. Especially if you are representing a big organisation like EG. I'm usually not to bothered by stuff like this but I hope EG deals with it.
ShamTao
Profile Joined September 2010
United States419 Posts
March 08 2012 22:20 GMT
#217
The day TL shuns internet drama is the day I celebrate another step in legitimizing eSports.

While I agree that issues like this need to be brought up, it's the VOLUME that gets to me. EVERY DAY it seems like there's some silly situation that gets way too overblown.

Orb said some racist stuff, attempted to cover it up. That's two no-nos. EG needs to reprimand him, and then it's done. We don't need multiple posts on reddit, we don't need two threads on TL, so the community can move on.

It's stuff like this that makes communities like ours appear more childish than their worth.

But hey, here's yet another opinion being thrown into the bag. I guess I'm not helping, either.
In the game of drones, you win or you die!
Kuja
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1759 Posts
March 08 2012 22:21 GMT
#218
On March 09 2012 07:16 Lixler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 07:11 HorsemasterK wrote:
I hear orb swore at someone at a bar, is that revelant to this discussion?

Yes, I also heard that orb once cut someone off. Esports will never grow if big meanies are allowed to cast games.

I also heard there was this one time he didn't let a lady walk through the door first. God Forbid! burn the witch!
“Who's to say that my light is better than your darkness? Who's to say death is better than your darkness? Who am I to say?”
Parodoxx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States549 Posts
March 08 2012 22:21 GMT
#219
Look im sorry but so many ppl are hyper sensative and take things way to far. this entire thing should just be left alone. Orb got a warning and thats that.
ReturnStroke
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States801 Posts
March 08 2012 22:21 GMT
#220
On March 09 2012 07:12 Klondikebar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 07:10 ReturnStroke wrote:
On March 09 2012 06:18 1sz2sz3sz wrote:
Racist pig. I find it disgusting how he uses this king of language on the ladder


I REALLY doubt he's racist. This is definitely childish and he never should have lied about it, if that's what happened, especially to his team management. Now for using this language, I think EG did a great job giving him a one-time, stern, warning. What EG does for lying about it, if he did, I think should be more severe. IDK, maybe he didn't think about it coming back to bite him at the time. That's fair. I just hope he didn't lie to his team about it. I wouldn't want to be in his situation either, but don't dig the hole deeper, man.



You know that using racial slurs is like...the modus operandi of a racist right?

If it talks like a racist it's probably a racist. Especially since it seems like non racists manage to make it through the day without using those words.

I find this site very humorous and helpful. And you can submit your own questions if you're not sure!

http://yoisthisracist.com/

Has anyone ever heard of the BET litmus test for racism?


I also doubt that every 12 year old is a racist. They hear this mean word, they use it. I find it hard to believe that everyone who uses, or has used, this word believes that one race is superior than another. That's why I said it's just childish to use hurtful words like that without giving it much thought. I played XBL for a long time. There's no way that most XBL kids are racist, but if that's what you go on, that would be the conclusion. 90% of the time these words are used, the thought of race or sexual orientation probably doesn't enter their head.
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