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The subject of this thread is not a license to roll out your inaccurate, misinformed, poorly conceived, tired, and downright offensive theories about race relations.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
March 08 2012 22:15 GMT
#181
I don't think Orb is racist, just immature. And he deserves a chance as pro commentator and well, grow up.

However, if I were EG, I'd be more pissed that he lied directly to his manager's face.
pedalpusher
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom56 Posts
March 08 2012 22:15 GMT
#182
What a ridiculous thread.

"Ohh my, he said the N-word, let's burn him at a stake"

The apartheid in South Africa was racism, so what the genocide in Rwanda. This is the use of one word being taken entirely out of context. I'm sure most rational people will agree with me here.
We make a living with the things we are given, we make a life by what we give ~ Winston Churchill
Gheed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States972 Posts
March 08 2012 22:15 GMT
#183
Saying faggot and nigger makes you neither a racist nor a homophobe. Those are just the most socially unacceptable thing a rager can come up with. If he went on a diatribe about how the Jews were controlling the media than yeah, I'd see something wrong with that. But this is just a gamer talking shit online.
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
March 08 2012 22:15 GMT
#184
This is a great opportunity to make a meme: put Orb in the stand in a Phoenix Wright game and make him break down!
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
AngryFarmer
Profile Joined June 2011
United States560 Posts
March 08 2012 22:16 GMT
#185
I don't get how saying "nigger" is racist. He's not discriminating against anyone in any way. He's just calling someone a bad word. I feel like associating the use of "nigger and racism is pretty dumb. This is how small stories blow up into a huge cluster fuck.

Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7316 Posts
March 08 2012 22:16 GMT
#186
To people who say that orb is racist, please insert 'shit,' 'fuck,' or any variation of those words where nigger might be and see if the context is really all that different, because words only hold as much meaning as their context.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
biomech
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany380 Posts
March 08 2012 22:16 GMT
#187
ORB 2012

oh wait.. that's something different.
frozenrb
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland389 Posts
March 08 2012 22:16 GMT
#188
Didn't realize his intelligence is so low. He is from 88, just like me. He is fucking 23 ( 24 ) years old...


People like this shouldn't be in community. Yea everyone is raging I agree. But using words like "nigger clan" is rly low league and clas... You can call someone f*** idiot but not dumb nigger

People on internet should start get punished for that kind of shit.. Wonder if he is so retarded in real life too... calling other people niggers...

There should be some standards... eSports... wonder if he would cast for TV station... how their decision woluld be.
Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
March 08 2012 22:16 GMT
#189
Hmm I didn't even know Orb was affiliated with EG. Anyways, I would have had no idea about this if not for this thread so I for one am glad this thread was made.

Regardless, it's pretty unprofessional of him. To people saying "who cares", I care. His actions are distasteful and set a poor example for others.
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
March 08 2012 22:16 GMT
#190
On March 09 2012 07:15 pedalpusher wrote:
What a ridiculous thread.

"Ohh my, he said the N-word, let's burn him at a stake"

The apartheid in South Africa was racism, so what the genocide in Rwanda. This is the use of one word being taken entirely out of context. I'm sure most rational people will agree with me here.

Its not about him insulting people one or a couple of times. Its him lying in front of the whole community saying this didn't happen often, it was another player on his account.
K_Dilkington
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden449 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 22:17:01
March 08 2012 22:16 GMT
#191
Hate to break it but all of your sc2 heroes have raged on ladder at some point or another. I find it hard to be upset about this, even if it's always tiring seeing people using "nigger" in this day and age.
Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by the age of 18
Lixler
Profile Joined March 2010
United States265 Posts
March 08 2012 22:16 GMT
#192
On March 09 2012 07:11 HorsemasterK wrote:
I hear orb swore at someone at a bar, is that revelant to this discussion?

Yes, I also heard that orb once cut someone off. Esports will never grow if big meanies are allowed to cast games.
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
March 08 2012 22:16 GMT
#193
i dont really care but he shouldnt lie in the first place
IM & EG supporter
TheWorldToCome
Profile Joined January 2012
United States452 Posts
March 08 2012 22:17 GMT
#194
It seems like everyone is missing the point. Most people are mad because of the fact he lied and tried to cover it up rather than just admitting it was him and apologizing.

If he had just come out and said: yes it was me and I'm sorry I didnt mean it in a racist context, I will now not continue using this kind of language, then the community would have gotten over this a while ago.
Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one.
CounterOrder
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada457 Posts
March 08 2012 22:17 GMT
#195
This community is so sensitive. A total of 5 threads is made over a guy raging. Seriously?
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 08 2012 22:17 GMT
#196
Wasn't this thread closed already ? oO
I saw Chill close it like 20min ago.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
March 08 2012 22:17 GMT
#197
On March 09 2012 07:04 shabby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 06:59 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
On March 09 2012 06:15 BabyGiraldo wrote:
Wow SC2 players are so sensitive... Get on any other console/game and that's completely normal. (If you don't believe me play COD for 5 minutes). It's nice that this is a gm community but jesus this doesn't need it's own thread...



and that's a good thing? why should we accept racism?


Why should we accept attacks on homosexuality? Or attacks on a persons intellect? Or attacks on ones bodily or facial features? You're drawing a line that suits you, racism isnt "worse" than talking smack about anything else you're born with and can't change.


The history of profound violence and sorrow tied up with racism and racist language is WORLDS removed from, say, being left handed. I found your statement silly.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
March 08 2012 22:17 GMT
#198
On March 09 2012 06:17 Tenks wrote:
I don't see why everyone is complaining about this thread. It is a nice summary of what has happened. I'm also surprised people are saying "He raged, who cares?" When do you think it is ever appropriate to use racist language like that? Never. If you are trying to represent the community you simply cannot do it. Almost reminds me of the guy last week from the FGC that said sexism is an inherit part of the FGC and should be embraced.

I get frustrated on the ladder like everyone else but every game ends with me saying "GG." I don't even represent the community. I'm not saying he has to be calm after every loss but using language like this should be unacceptable.

If he had used the word faggot (which he did actually according to some of those pics) nobody would have said anything. But yeah, only the "nigger" part is relevant because he is showing blatant "racism".

Either the whole community doesn't accept any kind of inapropriate language coming from public figures (and so everybody just stop saying faggot every now and then), or the community agrees on the idea that some people can rage some time and just get over one or two insults in a ladder game.

Is nigger a common insult in america ?
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
SgtCoDFish
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1520 Posts
March 08 2012 22:18 GMT
#199
The issue is him lying, not the words imo. Although it'd probs be best if he cut the n-word out.

Not going to go mental over this though, I'm bored of this pseudo-drama shit.
AngryFarmer
Profile Joined June 2011
United States560 Posts
March 08 2012 22:18 GMT
#200
On March 09 2012 07:16 Tarotis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 07:15 pedalpusher wrote:
What a ridiculous thread.

"Ohh my, he said the N-word, let's burn him at a stake"

The apartheid in South Africa was racism, so what the genocide in Rwanda. This is the use of one word being taken entirely out of context. I'm sure most rational people will agree with me here.

Its not about him insulting people one or a couple of times. Its him lying in front of the whole community saying this didn't happen often, it was another player on his account.


I think that the lying came from how people made the situation sound so serious. I mean seriously.. Being called a racist much worse than being called a rude person
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