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The subject of this thread is not a license to roll out your inaccurate, misinformed, poorly conceived, tired, and downright offensive theories about race relations.
WarrickHunt
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom393 Posts
March 08 2012 22:22 GMT
#221
Racism... ON THE INTERNET? QUICK CALL THE CYBERPOLICE
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
March 08 2012 22:22 GMT
#222
On March 09 2012 07:21 Kuja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 07:16 Lixler wrote:
On March 09 2012 07:11 HorsemasterK wrote:
I hear orb swore at someone at a bar, is that revelant to this discussion?

Yes, I also heard that orb once cut someone off. Esports will never grow if big meanies are allowed to cast games.

I also heard there was this one time he didn't let a lady walk through the door first. God Forbid! burn the witch!


You have no idea. The first time I met Orb in person he had just got a speeding ticket. I was surprised he did not get a life in prison sentence for this.
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MercilessMonkey
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada150 Posts
March 08 2012 22:22 GMT
#223
At everyone saying close the thread or wondering why they saw this thread closed a while ago, it's because this whole thing spilled over into his casting feedback thread.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291451&currentpage=28#548
Nighthawks28
Profile Joined June 2011
United States232 Posts
March 08 2012 22:22 GMT
#224
I'm tired of this drama. Players like destiny says it all the time. And where are all those "pitchfork" threads (there has been a reddit thread before but people didn't really care).
MaGariShun
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria305 Posts
March 08 2012 22:22 GMT
#225
People are wasting their time to get orb fired by searching for replays and video archives where he flames people inappropriately? Whoever looked for that material must really hate the guy or have some weird sense of righteousness.

For all I care he can use the "n-word" (NIGGER) as long as he wants, I don't care. He just shouldn't do it while officially casting for whatever organization. What he does on his stream or in private while laddering should be his problem. It's not like he is openly being racist or anything, it's just shittalk. Get the sticks out of you asses

Nobody goes nuts over Idra when he calls people fags OH MY GOD STARUCRAFTU COMMUNITY HOMOPHOBE MUST MAKE THREAD NAO
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
March 08 2012 22:22 GMT
#226
How old are these screenshots exactly...?
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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
March 08 2012 22:22 GMT
#227
While I can't pretend to like Orb using the word nigger, the obvious problem is that he lied to the community, and worse in more practical terms, he lied to EG, which should (and probably will) have consequences.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
ForZe
Profile Joined March 2012
Norway1 Post
March 08 2012 22:23 GMT
#228
Please just close this thread, it will only result in hate and despite. It doesn't deserve it's own thread, and the situation is dealt with by EG. Please, chill down folks.
PantsB
Profile Joined January 2011
United States77 Posts
March 08 2012 22:23 GMT
#229
Wow, so fuck orb.

And yes using that word does mean you're racist. People who are not racist don't carry that word in just under the surface.
Kuja
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1759 Posts
March 08 2012 22:23 GMT
#230
On March 09 2012 07:20 Vincanity wrote:
BM is ridiculous, but who cares about racism? Niggers are the worst SC2 players ever, so he is right. Retarded Strats = Nigger strats.

Your not lasting long
“Who's to say that my light is better than your darkness? Who's to say death is better than your darkness? Who am I to say?”
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 08 2012 22:23 GMT
#231
Oh good, it felt like it had been awhile since a Drama bomb went off on TL, now I can stop wondering who it will be about.

Imo, this doesn't deserve the attention it is getting, i mean we have a WHOLE thread dedicated to people talking in exactly the same manner during games on Bnet and we don't go out and persecute all of them. To me what it comes down to, Did this happen during some kind of sponsored event? No. Was his stream in any way representing anyone other than himself? No. So whats the big deal? Ok so the N word is still a bit of a sore issue with some people and in some contexts can be very racist still. From the screen shots and conversation it's pretty clear this was just rage pure and simple with some poor word choice, definitely not the biggest deal.

I'm not very up on where Orb stands in the community (if hes on a team or w/e) so there is some issue there I suppose where he could be representing a group like that in his day to day activities, but besides that this just feels like an article in the SC2 tabloids. Should all blow over in a couple weeks.
I can take that responsibility.
frozenrb
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland389 Posts
March 08 2012 22:23 GMT
#232
Wondering if he use it in that kind of meaning i mean racist...
WallieP
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands425 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 22:26:15
March 08 2012 22:23 GMT
#233
On March 09 2012 07:18 SgtCoDFish wrote:
The issue is him lying, not the words imo. Although it'd probs be best if he cut the n-word out.

Not going to go mental over this though, I'm bored of this pseudo-drama shit.

The n-word? You mean nigger? Nigger is pretty much a normal thing to say tbh, its got nothing to do with racism, its just a word thats easier to say then black people.. just like niggers say whiteguy, it also isnt racism.. also niggers can say nigger to fellow niggers, while when a whiteguy says the same its all of the sudden racism? People saying that nigger cant be said should lighten up a bit

And about the lying part, who cares that Orb lies... (i dont even know him while i have the feeilng i know pretty much players in the sc2 community)

Now i think about it, this topic is pretty bad
i came i saw i conquered
Br3ezy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States720 Posts
March 08 2012 22:24 GMT
#234
lol that made me laugh. dumb nigger, still says people havent gotten over descrimination and racial remarks as dumb nigger is supposed to be a derogatory term, hence black people being inferior to whites
Check out my guide to mechanics http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319876
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
March 08 2012 22:24 GMT
#235
On March 09 2012 07:20 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 07:19 Prime Directive wrote:
1. He lied about it
2. People should just try to be decent to each other on bnet


1. He maybe panicked.
2. Yeah, right, like that's gonna happen.

And even Day9 and Artosis rage on ladder.


and yet he is a big enough dick to talk about jessica needing better pr ;p right in the middle of his own shitstorm.

doesnt sound like a panick to me if he just keeps on posting stuff.
sapht
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden141 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 22:28:00
March 08 2012 22:25 GMT
#236
You want to be a professional public figure, you should act like a professional public figure. If you won't, or can't, you go to the trashcan. Be it immaturity, anger management, racism -- the cause is secondary. Violate the social contract and you can't have a position as "good guy", which a caster must have.

It just happens to be that more people take offense from the word "nigger" than "faggot" or "dumbass". Remember the "kramer nigger" incident?
You can use control groups to train units without even looking at your base.
MooLen
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany501 Posts
March 08 2012 22:25 GMT
#237
On March 09 2012 06:16 pt wrote:
its just racist comments dawg... its only a big deal because other people make it a big deal.


this!!!!
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
March 08 2012 22:25 GMT
#238
Remember when Michael Richards (Kramer from Seinfeld) went on a rant?

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Did anyone think at that time that the backlash was uncalled for?

How is this different?
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
furcifer
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway54 Posts
March 08 2012 22:26 GMT
#239
Looks like EG removed the introductionvideo of orb on their youtube page.. :x
HellionDrop
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
281 Posts
March 08 2012 22:26 GMT
#240
lol @ this guy, he's just like any other nerds who rage when they get beat. definitively don't support this type of behavior, its annoying to be at the receiving end. i think its stupid to think your opponents don't deserve the wins when you make mistakes, but there are just too many angry kids on the internet what can you do about it?
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