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The subject of this thread is not a license to roll out your inaccurate, misinformed, poorly conceived, tired, and downright offensive theories about race relations.
snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
March 08 2012 22:26 GMT
#241
If he was some random rager on the internet, it would be fine. But orb is a well known professional, and should act like it. This kind of behavior is unacceptable, especially with his association with EG.
My religion is Starcraft
Cres
Profile Joined November 2008
United States227 Posts
March 08 2012 22:27 GMT
#242
I've never really followed orb, but I can see that the situation is not uncommon.

He is beginning a career that he would really enjoy. Then he is accused. At this point, there is a really big incentive for him to try and just deny allegations because he is afraid of what will happen. To be honest, I really doubt he thought that there would be so much evidence against him. This is a typical mindset to have, I'll just deny it and let it blow over.

I'm not defending orb for his actions, they clearly were mistakes; however, when the consequences are like "removed from our world", I can't say I agree with the decision.

Anyway, I think everyone makes mistakes and that orb has enough passion for SC2 to not purposely do anything that would negatively affect him.
Fae
Atlas247
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada318 Posts
March 08 2012 22:27 GMT
#243
I don't know whether it's true or not but it sucks to be Orb. He just got set up at the EG house right? Sad story if he gets immediately thrown out.
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frozenrb
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland389 Posts
March 08 2012 22:27 GMT
#244
The truth is... it's just low intelligence and class.... don't care if it was racist or not... it's just low standards...
ReturnStroke
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States801 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 22:32:44
March 08 2012 22:28 GMT
#245
On March 09 2012 07:23 PantsB wrote:
Wow, so fuck orb.

And yes using that word does mean you're racist. People who are not racist don't carry that word in just under the surface.


It's a terrible word, but I think it makes you a racist about is much as sitting in a garage makes you a car. I think it just makes you childish and they need to grow up a little. It's just what happens when children think of the most hurtful word they can and use it. If there was a more hurtful word they could think of, they'd use it.
anycolourfloyd
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia524 Posts
March 08 2012 22:28 GMT
#246
this has only turned into a shitstorm because he's acting like a kid about it

if he just apologised from the get go and said he didn't intend to offend anybody then most people wouldn't care
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
March 08 2012 22:28 GMT
#247
On March 09 2012 07:23 WallieP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 07:18 SgtCoDFish wrote:
The issue is him lying, not the words imo. Although it'd probs be best if he cut the n-word out.

Not going to go mental over this though, I'm bored of this pseudo-drama shit.

The n-word? You mean nigger? Nigger is pretty much a normal thing to say tbh, its got nothing to do with racism, its just a word thats easier to say then black people.. just like niggers say whiteguy, it also isnt racism.. also niggers can say nigger to fellow niggers, while when a whiteguy says the same its all of the sudden racism? People saying that nigger cant be said should lighten up a bit

And about the lying part, who cares that Orb lies... (i dont even know him while i have the feeilng i know pretty much players in the sc2 community)

Now i think about it, this topic is pretty bad

I hope you're joking. Also, Orb was pretty popular even back in beta (he played in the HDH), so obviously you don't know as much about the SC2 scene as you think.
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
March 08 2012 22:28 GMT
#248
"and this is your behaviour and you continue to act this way, then you will be very, very quickly removed from our world."

LOL

someone raged on ladder, not sure what orb's gonna do now that he's removed from sirscoots' world

obviously not smart/nice to do it, esp since you're kind of a public person, but as others said, he raged on ladder, everybody (sadly does), not much else to it
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15742 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 22:29:06
March 08 2012 22:28 GMT
#249
On March 09 2012 07:26 furcifer wrote:
Looks like EG removed the introductionvideo of orb on their youtube page.. :x


Sounds like its game over and rightfully so. This is just too much.
ozzy1346
Profile Joined November 2011
United States38 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 22:30:52
March 08 2012 22:29 GMT
#250
guess what, nobody gives a flying fuck! are you offended? dont watch his stream and dont support him. whats the difference if he called the guy a nigger or a fucking asshole. MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIVES AND STOP SCRUTINIZING A PLAYER FOR RAGING. and even if he is racist, is that your business?

if he was black would he be talked down by using the word nigger?

what if he called the guy on ladder a cracker? would he hate whites?

fucking loser people claiming racism need to get a life when it comes to this shit, your not the world police

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FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
March 08 2012 22:29 GMT
#251
i woke up and said to myself.. WHO THE HELL IS ORB?
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
Tanukki
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland579 Posts
March 08 2012 22:29 GMT
#252
ROFL, poor guy got owned by the Reddit inquisition. So he got caught up in a bit of BM, and lying about it. Should EG kick him out of their house because of this? Probably not. Orb should learn how to BM properly though. "nigger" isn't particularly inspired or witty.
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
March 08 2012 22:29 GMT
#253
There are always differant standards for people who work on a public level and one of those standards is if an action offends just a small minority, then that action should be avoided. What makes this really bad, and really stupid, is he lied about it. Then after lying about it, he used the word on stream. On stream. Like how stupid do you have to be? Anyways, Ord should be suspended.
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
esaul17
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada547 Posts
March 08 2012 22:29 GMT
#254
On March 09 2012 07:27 Cres wrote:
I've never really followed orb, but I can see that the situation is not uncommon.

He is beginning a career that he would really enjoy. Then he is accused. At this point, there is a really big incentive for him to try and just deny allegations because he is afraid of what will happen. To be honest, I really doubt he thought that there would be so much evidence against him. This is a typical mindset to have, I'll just deny it and let it blow over.

I'm not defending orb for his actions, they clearly were mistakes; however, when the consequences are like "removed from our world", I can't say I agree with the decision.

Anyway, I think everyone makes mistakes and that orb has enough passion for SC2 to not purposely do anything that would negatively affect him.

Just because he didn't realize typing racist slurs and lying about it would come back to bite him doesn't make it any more forgivable.
WallieP
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands425 Posts
March 08 2012 22:29 GMT
#255
This topic needs some southpark!
http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/28606/55b66a17/wheel_of_fortune.html

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i came i saw i conquered
MercilessMonkey
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada150 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 22:30:38
March 08 2012 22:30 GMT
#256
On March 09 2012 07:29 ozzy1346 wrote:
guess what, nobody gives a flying fuck! are you offended? dont watch his stream and dont support him. whats the difference if he called the guy a nigger or a fucking asshole. MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIVES AND STOP SCRUTINIZING A PLAYER FOR RAGING. and even if he is racist, is that your business?


I would imagine that EG's sponsors will give a flying fuck.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
March 08 2012 22:30 GMT
#257
On March 09 2012 07:29 ozzy1346 wrote:
guess what, nobody gives a flying fuck! are you offended? dont watch his stream and dont support him. whats the difference if he called the guy a nigger or a fucking asshole. MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIVES AND STOP SCRUTINIZING A PLAYER FOR RAGING. and even if he is racist, is that your business?


The problem is more that he lied if anything.
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MaGariShun
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria305 Posts
March 08 2012 22:30 GMT
#258
On March 09 2012 07:28 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 07:26 furcifer wrote:
Looks like EG removed the introductionvideo of orb on their youtube page.. :x


Sounds like its game over and rightfully so. This is just too much.

Yeah after all those terrible things he has done it's time to put an end to his career!!!!!!
KicKDoG
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden765 Posts
March 08 2012 22:31 GMT
#259
Who cares? I don't care if orb says i'm a nigger in a videogame. If he does .... funny for him... And if someone goes rage-mode on me while laddering. I'm not the one wasting something doing it.. it's him...not me... He wastes energy and just being stupid... Even if orb did this it's his own personal problem ranting on people. And if he keeps telling lies that's just sad.. Be a man and confess if it's you and just move the fuck on? :-)
http://www.twitter.com/KicKDoG_LoL baylife plox?
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15742 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 22:31:55
March 08 2012 22:31 GMT
#260
On March 09 2012 07:29 ozzy1346 wrote:
guess what, nobody gives a flying fuck! are you offended? dont watch his stream and dont support him. whats the difference if he called the guy a nigger or a fucking asshole. MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIVES AND STOP SCRUTINIZING A PLAYER FOR RAGING. and even if he is racist, is that your business?


Did you miss the part where this is a 13 page thread? How about the part where his boss asked him about it and he lied to him? I think a lot of people care and you should calm down. EG is a very big presence in the e-sports scene and represents us a lot. Orb is very bad for sponsorship and does our community an injustice. How many other casters do you see with this kind of stuff coming out? None? Thought so. Ever wonder if there is a reason?

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