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The subject of this thread is not a license to roll out your inaccurate, misinformed, poorly conceived, tired, and downright offensive theories about race relations.
eNbee
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium487 Posts
March 08 2012 22:31 GMT
#261
Orb made it 100x worse by lying about it. People know what he's like so no one was believing him anyways...
hmmmm
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14056 Posts
March 08 2012 22:32 GMT
#262
reddit Drama threads always bring out the horrible posters.

This doesn't need to be a thread there are other threads that would serve the same goal.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
March 08 2012 22:32 GMT
#263
Ok this is going too far. Leave him alone. ffs talk about witchhunt
allerion
Profile Joined December 2011
62 Posts
March 08 2012 22:32 GMT
#264
What, someone said "nigger" on the internet?

nigga you serious?

Oh, its from reddit, MAYBE that's why this is stupid. just maybe.

Hes a caster who actually isn't pants-on-head bad like most casters, who cares if he calls someone a dumb nigger? To be fair, how stupid do you have to be to attack a protoss up a ramp?
Razuik
Profile Joined October 2010
United States409 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 22:35:00
March 08 2012 22:32 GMT
#265
Even ignoring the racial slurs, his behavior is completely unacceptable as a high ranking community member. Do you see any other caster or community figure acting this extremely childish way? I know 14,15, and 16 year olds who have better manners than this guy. And don't say Idra acts just like him.. it's not anywhere near the same level of bm. It sucks that such a good caster doesn't have the ability to clean his act up and own up to his mistakes after such a long time of being in the spotlight (good and bad spotlight). Also, people keep posting about "how this is just how the Internet works." Try to stop and think about how many things Orb actually represents... and it's not just himself.
frozenrb
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland389 Posts
March 08 2012 22:32 GMT
#266
Wonder how many times, you called something gay, even if you didn't have anything homophobic in mind...

It's childish like hell still... He is so stiupid:D
darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
March 08 2012 22:32 GMT
#267
HE SAID NIGGER



we have a lot of work to do here ladies and gentleman, thats at least 3 citations of nigger, so we know the punishment must be grave

let's get him fired and harass all of his current and previous employers with comments about it

let's make sure he leaves esports forever

let's make sure to comb over every game or vod or replay of him so he loses all sense of privacy and security

let's be certain his friends and family know so that they hate him as much as we do, the all powerful, all seeing internet

let's repost it in every thread and social network so everyone knows



Okay good, now i'm sure nobody will ever use the word nigger on the internet again. That'll show them.
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
March 08 2012 22:32 GMT
#268
Don't really care about the rage, just the superiority complex and lying about it after-the-fact.
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
LuckyCharms45
Profile Joined April 2011
United States37 Posts
March 08 2012 22:33 GMT
#269
For me at least, the sensitivity and pride the SCII community has for the people who represent it is what interested me in the first place. I personally don't see anything wrong with having high standards of those who have been lucky enough to be a public figure of the community. As far as orb is concerned, I hope all can agree that his behavior should not be endorsed, and I do hope EG comes to the same conclusion. Whether or not it is the community's job to drag people like orb into the spotlight for scrutiny is a separate issue. I hope EG goes about this tactfully and carefully and I hope it teaches community members to try and keep their emotions in check even when they are "raging". Just my two cents.
laugoatse
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany40 Posts
March 08 2012 22:33 GMT
#270
wow, seriously? so much drama over a few insults on the ladder? orb gets mad after losing? big fucking deal.
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
March 08 2012 22:33 GMT
#271
On March 09 2012 07:23 WallieP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 07:18 SgtCoDFish wrote:
The issue is him lying, not the words imo. Although it'd probs be best if he cut the n-word out.

Not going to go mental over this though, I'm bored of this pseudo-drama shit.

The n-word? You mean nigger? Nigger is pretty much a normal thing to say tbh, its got nothing to do with racism, its just a word thats easier to say then black people.. just like niggers say whiteguy, it also isnt racism.. also niggers can say nigger to fellow niggers, while when a whiteguy says the same its all of the sudden racism? People saying that nigger cant be said should lighten up a bit

And about the lying part, who cares that Orb lies... (i dont even know him while i have the feeilng i know pretty much players in the sc2 community)

Now i think about it, this topic is pretty bad


I don't know where you're from, but I dare you to go around saying that. Here's some advice, don't.

On topic, I've never really liked orb.
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
March 08 2012 22:33 GMT
#272
Ugh, I thought the internet was practically free from political correctness. So what if someone happens to spew out some unnecessary words while raging? He can't even possibly know if the opponents are black so why is it so upsetting? There's no real intent behind the words except rage.
ReturnStroke
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States801 Posts
March 08 2012 22:34 GMT
#273
On March 09 2012 07:31 eNbee wrote:
Orb made it 100x worse by lying about it. People know what he's like so no one was believing him anyways...


I agree completely. He shouldn't have done it, but it probably wouldn't be such a big deal if he didn't lie about it.
Iroh
Profile Joined February 2011
England48 Posts
March 08 2012 22:34 GMT
#274
I agree that this has been brought up elsewhere so bringing it up again is just a waste. All these people just saying "This is just ladder BM this doesn't matter" "Just play COD and you will see the same thing" are being stupid though. Do you not realize that behavior like this is what destroys gaming communities, and can stop sponsors. There IS difference between ladder rage (calling people bad, useless, rubbish at the game etc) and being down right racist and offensive. Orb was building himself up, becoming a better and better caster. Someone who is as big as a player going to tournaments and casting tournaments that rely totally on sponsors can not act this way. Gamers have it rough in the first place, don't give reasons for companies and sponsors more reason to. Just because an FPS community does it doesn't make it ok, really that is why they are a total joke and will not go anywhere further than they have.

And it doesn't matter if its ladder or at a tournament, should make no difference. He is now in the eyes of all his followers as he has grown, he should now take responsibility in everything he does. I want eSports to pick up as much as the next guy, and it is stuff like this that needs to change.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4553 Posts
March 08 2012 22:34 GMT
#275
On March 09 2012 07:28 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 07:23 WallieP wrote:
On March 09 2012 07:18 SgtCoDFish wrote:
The issue is him lying, not the words imo. Although it'd probs be best if he cut the n-word out.

Not going to go mental over this though, I'm bored of this pseudo-drama shit.

The n-word? You mean nigger? Nigger is pretty much a normal thing to say tbh, its got nothing to do with racism, its just a word thats easier to say then black people.. just like niggers say whiteguy, it also isnt racism.. also niggers can say nigger to fellow niggers, while when a whiteguy says the same its all of the sudden racism? People saying that nigger cant be said should lighten up a bit

And about the lying part, who cares that Orb lies... (i dont even know him while i have the feeilng i know pretty much players in the sc2 community)

Now i think about it, this topic is pretty bad

I hope you're joking. Also, Orb was pretty popular even back in beta (he played in the HDH), so obviously you don't know as much about the SC2 scene as you think.


I'm from Belgium, studying in the UK. In Belgium people don't really care much about the n-word, as WallieP describes.
In the UK though, everyone is damn sensitive about it!
I guess it's different everywhere.
Klondikebar
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2227 Posts
March 08 2012 22:34 GMT
#276
On March 09 2012 07:32 frozenrb wrote:
Wonder how many times, you called something gay, even if you didn't have anything homophobic in mind...

It's childish like hell still... He is so stiupid:D


The fact that you think the term "gay" can be used to describe something you don't like is inherently homophobic.
#2throwed
Spec
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Taiwan931 Posts
March 08 2012 22:34 GMT
#277
The irony of a color blind dishing out racial slurs.
Eye for an eye make the world go blind - Gandhi
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
March 08 2012 22:34 GMT
#278
funny how people just drop the n word like its nobodys business. thats the interwebs for you, bunch of ethugs.
-Exalt-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States972 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 22:35:30
March 08 2012 22:35 GMT
#279
If I was black, I would have just lost a lot of respect for TL from this thread.

He's a "professional" commentator, if you want the e-sports scene to be taken at least SOMEWHAT seriously from the rest of the world, there needs to be a higher standard than this (this, also referring to the countless people in this thread saying who cares).

If he was some no-name on ladder, then yeah I wouldn't care.. but guess what? He isn't some no-name. He is, like it or a not, a representative of OUR community because of the viewers he gets. So an example needs to be set by EG, or whoever, so that it doesn't continue and our community improves. That said, let the guy continue commentating.
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
March 08 2012 22:35 GMT
#280
Orb 2012.

Really? Big deal.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
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