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The subject of this thread is not a license to roll out your inaccurate, misinformed, poorly conceived, tired, and downright offensive theories about race relations.
OGzan
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States289 Posts
March 08 2012 22:10 GMT
#161
I for one support the idea of a Starcraft 2 reality TV show
(Zan) :: http://www.twitch.tv/byzantiumsc :: Terran Player currently teamless ::
achristes
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Norway653 Posts
March 08 2012 22:11 GMT
#162
Well, I like watching orb but I must admit his rage is hillarious, but I can see why this would be pretty bad when you are representing a company like EG...

IDK about Destiny though, he brings in a lot of viewers (~2500) almost every time he streams, and un-featuring could MAYBE (please note this word) have minor backlash at TL.
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ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
March 08 2012 22:11 GMT
#163
On March 09 2012 07:04 ToD wrote:
geting mad after a game is standard, the n word shouldnt be used ever


"the n word". It's not like we are in 2012.

Racism will exist as long we behave like there is a boundary. I am white, he is black and the other one is yellow. We are all people. Saying a fact about a skin color shouldn't be taken as an insult even if it's addressed like one. Would you get mad if I called you "You mammal"?

Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 22:12:31
March 08 2012 22:11 GMT
#164
Oh no, Orb said "nigger". I'm definately losing sleep over this. Right after I figure out how to convince hiphop singers (including non-blacks) to stop throwing the word in half their sentences.

Oh no wait, it's out of context in rap/hiphop. Wasn't it here???
HorsemasterK
Profile Joined August 2010
United States606 Posts
March 08 2012 22:11 GMT
#165
I hear orb swore at someone at a bar, is that revelant to this discussion?
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
March 08 2012 22:11 GMT
#166
I have never heard about orb. Why is Evil Geniuses here to tell something, is orb a member of EG?
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Klondikebar
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2227 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 22:13:15
March 08 2012 22:12 GMT
#167
On March 09 2012 07:10 ReturnStroke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 06:18 1sz2sz3sz wrote:
Racist pig. I find it disgusting how he uses this king of language on the ladder


I REALLY doubt he's racist. This is definitely childish and he never should have lied about it, if that's what happened, especially to his team management. Now for using this language, I think EG did a great job giving him a one-time, stern, warning. What EG does for lying about it, if he did, I think should be more severe. IDK, maybe he didn't think about it coming back to bite him at the time. That's fair. I just hope he didn't lie to his team about it. I wouldn't want to be in his situation either, but don't dig the hole deeper, man.



You know that using racial slurs is like...the modus operandi of a racist right?

If it talks like a racist it's probably a racist. Especially since it seems like non racists manage to make it through the day without using those words.

I find this site very humorous and helpful. And you can submit your own questions if you're not sure!

http://yoisthisracist.com/

Has anyone ever heard of the BET litmus test for racism?
#2throwed
keioh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France1099 Posts
March 08 2012 22:12 GMT
#168
On March 09 2012 07:05 Pharnax wrote:
> Calls random people "dumb nigger" and "faggot" on Bnet
> Lies to EG about it
> Lies to Public about it
> Lies about only saying "nigger" once

> Pointing this out is "baseless slander"
> Pointing this out is "illogical"
> Pointing this out makes you a "hater"
> Racism and homophobia is perfectly normal and should be tolerated
> Lying about it is totally excusable and should be tolerated

TL community logic herpdiderp

User was warned for this post

User was temp banned for this post.


OOOOh I was THAT close to answer with some >implying there ever was logic on teh intarwebz but the Fate has protect me to post such simple post.

So I'll argue the following : orb (seemingly) used prohibited (reasons are not the point here) words in a private game. In public apparition it seems he never uses the power of rage or of non politically correct insults. This is what matters. Because you have the right to be what you want in your private sphere. If he is reported to Blizz, then he'll face the consequence (which shall never be the same again). I personnally don't give a damn about those words he said in a game where he raged. I do think his stream his rated M for mature (language at least) and as long as he stay "professional" on public streamage, there is no problem there. /rant
GIMME ALL THE BELGIAN WAFFLES I CAN GET FOR THIS MONEY !!!!!! BELGIAN WAFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLEEEEEEEEES
Gecko4lif
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States42 Posts
March 08 2012 22:12 GMT
#169
On March 09 2012 07:11 Psychobabas wrote:
Oh no, Orb said "nigger". I'm definately losing sleep over this. Right after I figure out how to convince hiphop singers (including non-blacks) who enjoy throwing the word in half their sentences.

Oh no wait, it's out of context in rap/hiphop. Wasn't it here???

Clearly a stiff white guy ^
aristarchus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States652 Posts
March 08 2012 22:12 GMT
#170
For all the people complaining about all the attention... Do you not realize that this would be a much smaller thread if how bad it was was universally accepted? It would be "Orb says racist stuff online - EG suspends him for 2 weeks and says he'll be fired if he does it again." And there'd be a page or two of comments that are roughly "oh, that sucks".

Instead, there are a bunch of posts that are like "What? Why is it bad to be racist?" and we have to have a huge debate over whether it's actually bad. It's bad. The fact that a bunch of other people do it online doesn't make it any better. You should be happy that the Starcraft community is big and broad enough to include people who have a problem with it.
KingOfAmerica
Profile Joined April 2011
United States246 Posts
March 08 2012 22:13 GMT
#171
Said the same thing on the orb stream thread before this was reopened, but the summary:

This behavior is completely unacceptable in any social setting. Doesn't mean Orb is a racist, or bad person. But it does mean he is someone I don't want to associate with, and it does mean he has some personality issues to work through.

People defending this as "its just ladder it happens" need to take their heads out of the sand. Rationalize your own BM how ever you want, but socially healthy people don't behave like this in any setting. And now that he is a professional, the "personal stream" defense is completely out of play. This is the real world, learn to live in it and accept consequences.
The nukes gonna land on his aarrrrmmmmyyy AHHHHH
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
March 08 2012 22:13 GMT
#172
On March 09 2012 07:10 legaton wrote:
Katu, Orb, IEM drama about the hostel, it is amazing how such a small community as the SC2 fans can create so much drama on so little time. it's like a never-ending influx of Joseph Kony like causes. I'm sure SC2 is going to disappear as an industry. Not only the community is small, but it is so full of itself, uptight and self-righteous, it would be crazy to put any money on it. Tournament organizers and sponsors get burned constantly and must make wonders (SC2 standards for tournaments are several times higher that for any other game) just to satisfy a mere 20 000/40 000 viewers.


IEM drama? Do you call anyone talking about anything drama? It was just players saying they had small hotel rooms. No drama.

I'd rather have a community full of people who actually care when public figures start spewing out words like nigger and faggot while streaming to the public than a community of people who dont care at all.

Plus if you think there are only 20,000 viewers you are pretty oblivious.
Maruprime.
Kuja
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1759 Posts
March 08 2012 22:13 GMT
#173
On March 09 2012 07:11 Psychobabas wrote:
Oh no, Orb said "nigger". I'm definately losing sleep over this. Right after I figure out how to convince hiphop singers (including non-blacks) to stop throwing the word in half their sentences.

Oh no wait, it's out of context in rap/hiphop. Wasn't it here???

Exactly, these hip-hop singers use these words all the time and its SO much bigger then esports, maybe we should take a page out of their book.
“Who's to say that my light is better than your darkness? Who's to say death is better than your darkness? Who am I to say?”
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
March 08 2012 22:13 GMT
#174
I'm confused. I swear this was in the closed threads section 5 minutes ago because Chill and Semioldguy closed it...
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
March 08 2012 22:14 GMT
#175
On March 09 2012 07:11 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 07:04 ToD wrote:
geting mad after a game is standard, the n word shouldnt be used ever


"the n word". It's not like we are in 2012.

Racism will exist as long we behave like there is a boundary. I am white, he is black and the other one is yellow. We are all people. Saying a fact about a skin color shouldn't be taken as an insult even if it's addressed like one. Would you get mad if I called you "You mammal"?



If mammal were derogatory, yes. What a strange argument.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
March 08 2012 22:14 GMT
#176
why do people feel the need to constantly bring this crap up? EG will deal with this himself.

and many EG members on record use these racial slurs. Huk does often lets get mad guys!
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
March 08 2012 22:14 GMT
#177
wow I will never view Orb the same. How pathetic.
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
March 08 2012 22:14 GMT
#178
Not ok, period.
I am not young enough to know everything.
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
March 08 2012 22:14 GMT
#179
On March 09 2012 07:12 Gecko4lif wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 07:11 Psychobabas wrote:
Oh no, Orb said "nigger". I'm definately losing sleep over this. Right after I figure out how to convince hiphop singers (including non-blacks) who enjoy throwing the word in half their sentences.

Oh no wait, it's out of context in rap/hiphop. Wasn't it here???

Clearly a stiff white guy ^


Are you racist? The correct word is Euro-Caucasian.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
March 08 2012 22:15 GMT
#180
On March 09 2012 07:11 HorsemasterK wrote:
I hear orb swore at someone at a bar, is that revelant to this discussion?


Please don't post without reading the OP. It clutters the thread. If you actually read the OP, you'd notice that this wasn't a single, isolated incident where Orb was not streaming. In fact, it has been shown that he's done this while streaming as well. This was proven *after* Orb lied to both Alex Garfield and the community, saying this was the only time he'd used racial slurs. So Orb does not only do this in private, which your post implies. He also lied to EG about the incident.
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