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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people.
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On December 14 2011 19:43 Vari wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 19:42 cosmincontra wrote:On December 14 2011 19:37 CuSToM wrote: Haha why are people saying they want to refund their ticket etc? Naniwa wasn't going to go anywhere in Code S anyways so what is the big deal?
Don't disrespect Nestea and maybe this won't happen... because they dont want to support an organization that screws their favourite players he broke the rules and proved he doesn't deserve a spot. he's a child, not a professional he can grow up and earn another spot in the future
I'm sorry which rule? Could you quote it please? Thanks!
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When you are invited to a prestigious tournament with arguably the world's best competition, you play every single game with the best of your effort, no? GOMTV invited Naniwa not only based on his accomplishments but also for the fact they assume the players they invited will show the utmost respect to the organization and players. Other sponsored teams would kill to get a chance to send one of their players to compete in this tournament for the sheer exposure and a chance to show their professionalism.
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On December 14 2011 19:54 ShakAttaK wrote: Everyone who is upset about naniwa being punished is just butt hurt
He did something that almost everyone was disappointed seeing he didn't treat the other player with respect and what he did was really BM i thought Naniwa had moved passed his BM attitude but how he acted was immature . Like how would you like it hosting a tournament people are paying money to watch and then having one of the players just straight up lose on purpose cause he doesn't advance. Then the player said he is justified in what he was doing in a culture that is run on respect like wtf man? Then people saying they won't support a certain circle of eSports in the world even though they just punished one player? You guys are acting like kids grow up. Look at it from Gom's view Naniwa's actions reflected on GOM they want to show case that they have professionals who are acting the part and treating everyone with respect and give off an air of professionalism in a growing industry that is seen as childish to most of the world . Fucking grow up guys and look at the big picture
It is possible to not like nani at all and still be disgusted by gom, just sayin...
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On December 14 2011 19:53 Kizu wrote: for those of you saying that you won't buy a ticket just because of this decision, try to think about it from the Korean's point of view. if some one just made your nation's proudest competitive sport look like a joke, do you just stand by and do nothing or punishment him for it accordingly.
to be honest, the punishment isn't even that harsh. so Naniwa needs to stop being a girl and do what he is paid for.
How does he make it look like a joke? He makes it look like he takes it really serious and doesnt want to show anything but his best game. He knew he couldt do that so he didnt try...
You know what looks like a joke? Doing a half asses 4 gate just that people dont bother you anymore... naniwa is honest and just wants to show that he is the best, hes not there to play bad games no one cares about
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THIS IS STUPIDITY!!
well, when the next gsl is on air i will not tune in... simple as that
i won't watch some hypocrites with double standards. GOM now looks a little bit more kespa...
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On December 14 2011 19:54 JoeSchmoe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 19:52 Vardant wrote:On December 14 2011 19:49 LXR wrote: I don't understand how people view this as GOM making a joke out of themselves, if anything, it just shows their higher standards and a greater level of respect that i think are only necessary for e-sports... They forced a player to play a meaningless game for the first time. I could just as well say, that GOM was disrespectful towards Naniwa, because they forced him to play against Nestea, just so he can have his revenge. Might actually be true, I wouldn't believe that two days ago, but after what stunt they just pulled? Who knows... so disrespectful that GOM paid Naniwa $850 to play in the group stages. And he did...but never in the history of GSL were the players forced to play a game, that didn't matter, until now.
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On December 14 2011 19:55 Tofugrinder wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 19:53 Serpico wrote:On December 14 2011 19:52 iCemiLo wrote: lol @ the ppl thinking that probe rushing is the same as 6-pooling, 1-1-1-ing, and manner mule-ing... So intentionally trying to make fun of your opponent is more honorable than not trying to win? I'd say both are unacceptable. 111/6 pool are solid strategies, so no they are definately not unacceptable manner muleing etc is a different story and (in my personal opinion) should not be tolerated, but it looks like the koreans feel different about it Lets take away all emotion from this sport RIGHT NOW. Kespa here we come!
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HAHAHA
Next time GOM have to put in their rules that probe/drone/scv rushes are banned from the game xD or else u get banned for it and u cant get the opponent mad or the fans mad on u then u get the same treatment.
This is probbebly the biggest joke so far.
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On December 14 2011 19:55 Serpico wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 19:53 valaki wrote: LorangerChris Chris Loranger if it was a korean player, they would be out of gsl for months, kicked out of team house, and etc. is he perma baned or just this season? 33 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
yupp So he's right because? There's already precedence to say he's wrong (Choya). choya did get a ban though
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On December 14 2011 19:52 Executor1 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 19:50 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:On December 14 2011 19:46 Clefairy wrote:On December 14 2011 19:42 Suc wrote: If that translation of the rule is completely accurate, "offend" seems like a bit of a stretch compared to what went down and imo the rules shouldn't be open to that much interpretation.
I still don't understand why people are so mad about it. I don't know... Look at NesTea's face after the game. He looks pretty damn offended and furious. He was also in a really pissy mood when Naniwa beat him twice in two days. Guy needs to get some thick skin and not be so sensitive. No matter who you are (if your playing for a game for pride) you are going to be offended by naniwa's action.Its like "i dont respect you enough to actually give you a chance to beat me"
How nice of you to speak for everyone.
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On December 14 2011 19:54 JoeSchmoe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 19:52 Vardant wrote:On December 14 2011 19:49 LXR wrote: I don't understand how people view this as GOM making a joke out of themselves, if anything, it just shows their higher standards and a greater level of respect that i think are only necessary for e-sports... They forced a player to play a meaningless game for the first time. I could just as well say, that GOM was disrespectful towards Naniwa, because they forced him to play against Nestea, just so he can have his revenge. Might actually be true, I wouldn't believe that two days ago, but after what stunt they just pulled? Who knows... so disrespectful that GOM paid Naniwa $850 to play in the group stages. Yea alot of ppl dont realise that he was still getting paid to play those matches. Pretty disrespectful.
I support goms decision even if i dont agree with it entirely.
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Wow, really?!?!?!? Such a quick judgement. Ridiculous.
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Well, cbf GSL anymore if they consider probe all in abusive. Where is it written in their rules? What other all ins are abusive?
Their choice but it has no support for this one. They should add it for following offenses.
He didn't rage, scream, shout or insult anyone. He just decided the MONEY IS NOT IMPORTANT (lol Mr Chae ) and gambled his last game that had no meaning outside of money. I don't see a money hunter here, just disappointment about failing to perform.
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This is so stupid I feel really bad for naniwa I am not watching the coming season of gsl
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On December 14 2011 19:54 theBALLS wrote:Poll: Should he have been banned?Yes, he had it coming. (103) 52% No, it is too harsh. (94) 48% 197 total votes Your vote: Should he have been banned? (Vote): Yes, he had it coming. (Vote): No, it is too harsh.
Please clarify this. His Code S seed was revoked--he can still play in future GSLs by qualifying through the normal channels.
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On December 14 2011 19:55 SeriouR wrote: D: It feels so wrong, so so wrong, that someone loses a sead just because some people were "offended" by a way of playing. I'm sorry Gom but traditional Korean way of thinking has no place in the occidental society, not buying any more season tickets.
you're clueless. Try offending your boss and see what happens
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On December 14 2011 19:54 Arcanefrost wrote: This is ridiculous. Even though I don't approve of it itt's naniwa's decision, if he doesn't want to play he can probe rush. Other than people seem to think he owes us nothing. really? because the money he makes is because people exist to watch his games. we are the reason there's a payout for a tournament. without viewers there's no show.
gom owes us something and the players owe us something. if the players won't provide it, breaking the rules in the process, gom has every right to do what they deem necessary to fix that problem.
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On December 14 2011 19:54 ShakAttaK wrote: Everyone who is upset about naniwa being punished is just butt hurt
He did something that almost everyone was disappointed seeing he didn't treat the other player with respect and what he did was really BM i thought Naniwa had moved passed his BM attitude but how he acted was immature . Like how would you like it hosting a tournament people are paying money to watch and then having one of the players just straight up lose on purpose cause he doesn't advance. Then the player said he is justified in what he was doing in a culture that is run on respect like wtf man? Then people saying they won't support a certain circle of eSports in the world even though they just punished one player? You guys are acting like kids grow up. Look at it from Gom's view Naniwa's actions reflected on GOM they want to show case that they have professionals who are acting the part and treating everyone with respect and give off an air of professionalism in a growing industry that is seen as childish to most of the world . Fucking grow up guys and look at the big picture
No shit people are hurt when they're upset...
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GOM actively trying to become Kespa 2.0
There's not much else to say. Very childish reaction from GOM and the Koreans in general. Maybe they looked at their Northern brothers for what to do when someone does something u don't like.
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