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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people. Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned! - Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM - Comparing people to Hitler - Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum. | ||
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GeNeSiDe
United Kingdom354 Posts
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:07 eot wrote: So, how did HERO play? He didn't exactly try his hardest when he was 0-3 Uh he played really well. | ||
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sekritzzz
1515 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:05 zHarveLi wrote: nani fully deserved his punishment. Rules are rules, no matter how good you are, if you can't abide to them, you should get booted right out of the competition. Thanks for letting us know that probe rushing is not allowed in gom's rule book.... oh wait. Good thing hero building cannons at the watch tower is not in the rule book. | ||
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purpose
Sweden1017 Posts
And that of course is just so fucking funny! When the discussion get going you end up with people on both sides that simply get more caught up by the discussion then by what actually happend. | ||
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nukde
United States3 Posts
This is a excerpt from his interview. "So if you suffer a bad loss in the groups early on, do you think you can bounce back? It doesn't matter to me in other games if I win or lose the previous match, I just treat each match like it's the same thing, and give it my best. " Also, comparing a ling rush vs a probe rush is moronic. A game can't be won off a probe rush. So now nani is banned from GSL for 1 month. I say good job to Gom. They have a certain set of standards. I hope nani learns from this and trains even harder to become the the GSL champion in the GSL after. | ||
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Deadeight
United Kingdom1629 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:47 Deadeight wrote: I disagree. First off, the list at the end of your post. Those things do not mean that people didn't see a good, competitive game. Probe rushing has never been a competitive strategy. If MC does a throat slash after a game, it's just some light-hearted fun, but the Nestea vs Naniwa game basically didn't happen, I'm disappointed in him for not trying to show a good game not because I think he BMd nestea. Whilst I think GOM was in a difficult decision, I personally think that he did need punishing. Maybe losing his code S spot completely is a bit harsh, maybe not paying him at all for Blizzard cup would have been more appropriate. But he agreed beforehand to play all those games, and he didn't really play that last one, HuK never got punished for trying too hard in that all-star game. I completely sympathise with that situation, especially when Jinro vs Fruitdealer opened with a reall game with them both trying hard. But it's not the same situation. Actually, I apologise. I think I've changed my mind a bit; if this had happened at Dreamhack everyone would just have lol'd and Day[9] would have made some great jokes and TotalBiscuit would probably have satirically cast it as a super exciting match or something. So I think you're kinda right on the culture thing. Putting this one in context Naniwa should certainly have known better, and he was still completely wrong to do it. But I do think possibly a fine or something would have been better than losing his code S spot. Apparently many in korea were calling for 3-6 month ban which is ridiculous. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50612 Posts
does not apply to providence. | ||
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MasterBlasterCaster
United States568 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:07 Zzoram wrote: You're kidding right? Even foreigners know Naniwa has a ridiculously bad attitude, possibly the worst of any of the top gamers. No, I would say that the tweets I read displayed a FAR worse attitude. | ||
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NHY
1013 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:01 Goshawk. wrote: I personally think the removal of naniwa is fully justified. However, my main problem is the nature of the other Code S invites; where they are just inviting popular players with no concrete reasons behind them. Everyone knew Nani earned his spot from MLG, but the other invites are just for popular players who GOM favour. Naniwa got 2nd at MLG Providence and was going to be invited based on that. How is that differenct from Idra/Sen getting invited for 1st at IEM Guangzhou/3rd at Blizzcon. | ||
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tw!tch
United States563 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:02 hacky wrote: GOMTV hasn't lost support from me, nor from many other reasonable people here either. It's all too easy to get caught up in drama and make everything into hyperbole. Just because we aren't noisy and outraged, doesn't mean we're not here. This is well said. With all of the drama in the last few months, its easy to forget that there are plenty of level-headed people out there not losing sleep over issues like this. | ||
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drinkpepsi
United States16 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:08 DigitalisDestructi wrote: Can someone explain to me why some people are bringing up racism? What the hell? If it was a Korean, the punishment would've been way harsher, probably banned for 2-3 seasons and no entry allowed to other GomTV tournaments. All NaNiwa got was a denial of direct Code S spot; he can still participate in the Code A qualifiers if he wants to. And yet the evidence has shown us that there is no punishment for Koreans who actually shirk the rules, let alone someone who does nothing wrong and decides to probe rush. Please, don't just make things up. Thanks. | ||
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Spidinko
Slovakia1174 Posts
about not acting like a jerk. | ||
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Raidern
Brazil3811 Posts
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max1337
Germany51 Posts
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:08 HappyChris wrote: Naniwa won his spot like DRG and MMA did before him. What did Idra and Sen win to win claim that Code S spot? Idra won IEM. Sen beat Naniwa to take 3rd place at Blizzcon behind MVP and Nestea. | ||
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Moxi
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DanceOnCreep
Germany22 Posts
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Xarles
459 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:54 zanga wrote: *Ban MC from all the (seemingly FUNNY, previously that is) things he's done. Including Thumbs down, Dancing outside the booth, Waving his finger at the camera.. and many more. *Ban Bomber for having such a BM game against MC in some MLG (dont remember which). Putting down tons of command centers in the middle of the map, doing an "orange" with 10+ CC Scans and dropping mules so many times over. *Ban NesTea since in the Blizzcon finals he so obviously threw his game away and was just trolling around. *Ban Coca for match-fixing. He didnt get disqualified as far as I know - he simply left the spot because of decisions in their team. I can assume GOM would've cared, but so far had theyve said anything? ..more examples? His team pressured him to forfeiting his spot and has disallowed him from participating in GSL in the nearest future untill they see fit to do otherwise. This was done before GOMTV could actually intervene. | ||
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Pwnographics
New Zealand1097 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:08 bittman wrote: Sooooo, I'm starting to gather that this entire thread is a shitstorm created out of nothing? Can someone please give me some cold hard facts here? All I feel I'm reading is rumour and confusion =/ Thread won't slow down for long enough for facts to properly come out though, freaking drama generators! D= Naniwa was a favourite to be invited into code S. He showed bad attitude. Mr. Chae now says he will not be invited into Code S due to this. | ||
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dicex
127 Posts
Imagine this would happen in any kind of sport. One basketball team just sitting in the corner of the field for example, because the game was not an important one. Fans would be going nuts because of bad sportsmanship, and the league would definitely draw their consequences. This is not "the Koreans imposing their will on other cultures", this is a normal consequence for bad sportsmanship. | ||
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