EPTOn December 14 2011 22:07 eot wrote:
So, how did HERO play? He didn't exactly try his hardest when he was 0-3
So, how did HERO play? He didn't exactly try his hardest when he was 0-3
i think he at least microed
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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people. Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned! - Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM - Comparing people to Hitler - Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum. | ||
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lrofd
United States187 Posts
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Chickenlegs
Sweden451 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:07 oban wrote: I've seen people misbehaving plenty of times in the GSL. Not to mention Idra forfeiting games, but apparently it's fine when Americans and Koreans do it, probably due to their partnership with MLG. Idra even put Zenio in the same group as MC and laughed about it afterwards. And he gets invited back into code S? Do you call that sportsmanship? Gom is a joke organization. I'm sure racism is a big part of their decisions in the last few days. On behalf of swedish people I apologize for this one, I hope for all our sake that he is still young so we can rectify the mistakes and make him a normal human being. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51084 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:07 eot wrote: So, how did HERO play? He didn't exactly try his hardest when he was 0-3 at least he fucking tried. | ||
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anonymitylol
Canada4477 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:07 Generalul wrote: I for one pay and expect to see real games happening not for wannabe's like Naniwa spitting in the face of everyone cause he is not "in the mood". I mean nobody would have messed with him if he did a 4gate, cannon rush, proxy gates, or stuff like that, EVERYTHING to show he had a desire to at least put up a fight. And this even wasn't a 12 drone rush or something that had at least a tiny chance of succeding. So yeah, he got what was coming to him, no need to defend him. You are a PRO player, ACT like one! So if you were there at a tournament to win $34,000, went 0-3 in the group stages and had to play another player who was 0-3 in the group stages, you'd put on a show for the fans? If you just lost the opportunity to win up to $34,000 playing video games, you'd want to KEEP playing that game? The match between Nani and Nestea was 100% insignificant and should have never been played. | ||
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careohx
263 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:05 zHarveLi wrote: nani fully deserved his punishment. Rules are rules, no matter how good you are, if you can't abide to them, you should get booted right out of the competition. The problem is he didnt break any rules. Is there a rule against probe rushing? | ||
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pookadin
Australia422 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:08 Psychobabas wrote: As a GOM stream viewer and quite possibly a paying customer, he has a big say in it, thanks. I dont think thats accurate at all. You can take your sense of entitlement and GOM will kindly show you the door  | ||
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baoluvboa
743 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:09 DanceOnCreep wrote: Why is everyone Arguging with Korean Culture when the GSL trys so hard to be a international Tournament, GSL is nothing without the dedicated fans in the whole wide world. Back to Topic if this is the blizzard cup and not the gsl why u dont ban naniwa for future blizzard cups instead of taking his code s spot whats a different tournament? And where is the Punishment for the Korean "Pros" they are shitting disrespect and insults out of theyre mouths? Read other posts, Naniwa had no Code S spot. They just deemed him not worthy due to his behaviors and gave to Sen. He did not earn one from providence. | ||
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dakalro
Romania525 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:59 harobi wrote: its good to always have standard, nice job GOM. just ignore this "i won't buy next gsl ticket " or "i will never watch gsl again" haters gonna hate. Would be great if it was a standard but they bent a rule to punish him. That the exact opposite of standard. | ||
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trucane
United States553 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:06 ethos wrote: What is so difficult about this. Naniwa was disrespectful. Naniwa was sent to the corner. You shouldn't be sad for Naniwa, you should be sad that it seems that esports has to raise other people's children. You don't get on their stage and then in the middle of it decide not to play by their rules because your feelings are hurt, and then get away with it scot-free (this isn't even that big of a punishment, its only a month, unless I'm mistaken). Gom has to be sure that the decisions that they make for the sake of the fans (format) are adhered to by the players that take their stage, even when you get the shitty end of the stick. We all have to sacrifice sometimes. Such is (adult) life. Naniwa gets a free pass why? Because you like him? Because it is so adult to slander a player calling him a amateur money hunter when you are no better yourself inviting two players purely based on their fanbase and not on their achievments. Yes GOM is really professional | ||
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Focuspants
Canada780 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:05 drinkpepsi wrote: Flagrant racism from GOM, nothing more to it really. It's kind of disgusting that things like this can happen, but Eastern countries don't have the breadth of our modern equal rights institution. In a few years, when people finally get experienced enough with SC2 so that being an SC1 veteran doesn't count as much, I suspect the balance of power will shift to the US/EU, where nobody will be banned from tournaments for their skin color. This is the worst post I have ever read on TL. You are a joke buddy. | ||
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:05 bikefrog wrote: Yes, ignore a significant economic loss, Einstein. I don't think the 10 or 20 people that are making 100 posts about this count as a "significant economic loss." Especially when you take into consideration how outraged the korean viewers were at what naniwa did, and how they most likely would lose much more in korean subscriptions if they didn't do anything and let him get away with it. | ||
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pezit
Sweden302 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:02 hacky wrote: GOMTV hasn't lost support from me, nor from many other reasonable people here either. It's all too easy to get caught up in drama and make everything into hyperbole. Just because we aren't noisy and outraged, doesn't mean we're not here. I never claimed everyone would stop supporting them, just the reasonable ones (oh look I can act superior as well). | ||
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Pwnographics
New Zealand1097 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:10 careohx wrote: The problem is he didnt break any rules. Is there a rule against probe rushing? There's a rule against not trying. | ||
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LunaSea
Luxembourg369 Posts
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Sneakyz
Sweden2361 Posts
That may be the case but there was a tweet saying they would have given him the spot, so technically it's the same thing. | ||
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Xarles
459 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:09 Spidinko wrote: It's even better than I thought. They only removed his code S seed. So now he can go through code A AND think about not acting like a jerk. He still can't go through Code A January... Meaningless though, he never went through round 1 in the GSL in the past, no reason he should now. He should just forfeit any future attempts. =P | ||
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chillswithhippos
United States74 Posts
I've lived in Asian cultures half my life and American culture the other half, so lets get all this "Koreans are sensitive" talk out of the way. I hate the amount of respect that I'm forced to show to every person whose five plus years older than me while living in Asian. I equally hate the the amount of disrespect shown by most people here in America. It's a cultural difference and neither is wrong, so all bashing of that should just stop right now honestly -.- Also, remember that Naniwa was invited by GOM because they want to show off foreign talents, it's a great way to attract viewers. If you have a guy whose only games in Korea consisted of losses and even once rage quitting the game, now going for a 7 probe rush in a highly anticipated match then his appeal drops doesn't it? He has developed way too much of an anti-fan base in Korea due to his actions, and as Incontrol stated on SoTG, he is limiting the amount of opportunities being provided to him. He was brought in to increase viewers, the problem is that many Korean viewers, which is still the majority of GOMs audience, don't like him or care to watch him play. Therefore, GOM gains nothing from inviting Naniwa anymore. | ||
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Vardant
Czech Republic620 Posts
So why are there two distinct articles on the MLG website, that say otherwise? With the pedigree Naniwa displayed over the weekend, it's hard not to be excited about Naniwa's 2012 prospects in Code S and at Major League Gaming Events. http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/top-5-stories-from-mlg-providence/ In the last week, Naniwa has rage quit of of a GSL match, flown half-way around the world, defeated the two most successful Korean Starcraft 2 players back-to-back, sparked a rivalry with Nestea, been the center of controversy in a rematch against Nestea, let a National Championship slip through his fingers and earned a seat in Code S. http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/naniwas-ascensionOpen your eyes, GOM is lying to you. | ||
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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:00 Xax wrote: Please get your facts straight! http://twitter.com/#!/Ethan_Ahn/status/146935367524827136 "No baned. it's Misunderstanding! NaNi is Missed the opportunity to Code S." Dude, not handing out the code S spot he rightfully deserved from the MLG-GSL exchange-program and revoking his code S-status is the same damn thing. The only difference is semantics. | ||
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Pwnographics
New Zealand1097 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:11 LunaSea wrote: - Ban MC for the BM ceremonie at MLG with Idra Cause GOM runs MLG right son? | ||
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