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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people. Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned! - Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM - Comparing people to Hitler - Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum. | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:11 hALLE wrote: hahaha WOW really? They banned a guy for typing a p less then was allowed? Koreans are a bit crazy I think. no, they dont"ban" they make him lose a game not a set and not a ban, AND it was already changed ANY ammount of "p" is ok so its can be "p" pp ppp pppp ppppp pppppppppppp...... | ||
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JOJOsc2news
3000 Posts
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BigKahunaBurger
Australia334 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:09 Keidy wrote: This is so wrong The argument that the korean culture is like this is fine, if they are living by their own rules. But how can they do this to Nani saying his behaviour was unproffessional, when GSL themselves are beeing soooooo fucking unproffessional when they call him "amateur money hunter" So much for the korean culter. Terrible decision, and I have no respect for GSL/Korea atm Oh. Flaming an entire country and culture for the actions taken by one company. Thats going to make you look like the true "proffessional" here. NaniWa was invited to the Blizzard Cup, and was paid to play and provide games. He didn't do so and spat in the face of the fans as a result. Did anyone read the LR after it happened? On December 13 2011 21:06 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: No respect to viewers, producers, casters and anyone else involved in making this tournament a success. If there were betting lines out of these matches it's absolutely unacceptable regarding that as well. I doubt Naniwa researched that so it's morally the same decision. | ||
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m0ck
4194 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:11 mTw|NarutO wrote: Competitive spirit is a funny thing to mention when you throw a game on purpose. Even if it doesn't win you anything to actually win the game. Oh, come on, you know very well that naniwa is very driven and certainly competitive. Part of the reason why he's so emotional is that he wants to win so badly. I'm guessing you have some experience with naniwa being a bit of a dick in germany, but a lack of passion doesn't really seem to fit the bill. | ||
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baoluvboa
743 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:12 ander wrote: Few people are defending naniwa; most are upset with GSL's ridiculous, ambiguous, and over the top reaction. ridiculous - was in their rule ambiguous - correct in term of their rules but historical analogies set by brood war time and past incidents have established a pretty clear definite of what proper conducts are for progamers. over the top - same as ridiculous | ||
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Vari
United States532 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:13 Ace.Xile wrote: I think it's funny that pro-gamers advocate giving up competition in order for entertainment, as if pro gamers are entertainers who just happen to be competitors.. where does it say anything about giving up competition? | ||
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Biane
Australia645 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:12 MooMooMugi wrote: From Naniwa's twitter: "people are so mad i probe rushed nestea in a pointless game. it couldnt change anything in the tournament" "neither of us had anything at stake and wouldnt play our best. sorry fans that expected more" Naniwa choosing to probe rush was a bad decision? lol Include "i really practiced my 7 probe rush. i should have won that game ez!" if that isn't any indication that he wasn't thinking of the consequence of his decision, i don't know what is | ||
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RedEyeJedi
6 Posts
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ReboundEU
508 Posts
If i want to watch the best of the best i will wait for MLG...not GSL. I evaded the bigest waste of money i could have possibly made. They won...they wanted a "korean wonderland" and they got it. Good luck with your viewer database. | ||
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scares
Germany239 Posts
During a match, a player shall not offend the opponent or audience with abusive behaviours That normally has to include Manner Mules Marine dancing and nearly all ceremonies so i don't think the reasoning is valid | ||
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Weemoed
Netherlands741 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:13 tSxWorld wrote: why not giving the spot to Stephano ??? I don't get it ! Stephano doesn't want to play in the GSL (see his post-Blizzard Cup interview). | ||
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Asturas
Finland587 Posts
Excuse me, but how is that fair, where is the justice in this? I wanted to buy premium for new season. No way after this I will. Joke! | ||
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Eviscerador
Spain286 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:11 Excelle wrote: I would do the same, if i was playing 3 games that was very close for me to win, and then i know im out.. why and from where would i get my motivation to win a meaningless game?.. And why dont GOM just tell the players before what happens if they do stuff like that.. AND no im not saying this because im from Sweden... just saying this because i think its just so shitty by GOM.. Yeah, that is western behaviour. If you don't get any profit just go home and do something else more productive. But I think our asian friends don't like it. They prefer to say "yes" or "maybe" when they should clearly say "no". | ||
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jyisvip
Canada209 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:08 ToasteR_ wrote: I don't buy to see one player I buy because it was the highest level tourney around. But after this over reaction and "sponsor seeds" which are incredibly stupid and just a way for more foreign views the GSL just doesnt seem as legit anymore. Mind letting us know which tournaments are more legit than? | ||
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w1nter
Lithuania73 Posts
And those who chose "not to watch gsl any longer" well... lol. | ||
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Horp
Sweden164 Posts
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Pwnographics
New Zealand1097 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:11 labbe wrote: I cannot even begin do describe my disappointment with gom for doing this. It rubs me the wrong way for SO many different reasons. And I'm not even going to go into the whole "Was Naniwa right or wrong" debate. 1. The punishment is WAY to harsh. He earned that Code S spot fair and square. Sure, take a away his price money from the Blizzard Cup and give him a warning, but Code S is a totally different event, and should not be affected by this. 2. To make the GSL even more of a farce, they just randomly invites Sen to Code S? What has he done to deserve that? I did not realize that professional Starcraft was a popularity contest, but as of late it sure seems like it is. What about all the players in Korea working their asses off dreaming to play in Code S, and Gom just randomly gives people free invites to foreigner on a whim. At least have the decency to hold some sort of qualifier to that Code S spot if you necessarily have to go and ban people. 3. The "rule" that they are referring to that Naniwa supposedly broke, if the most vague thing I have ever seen, and could be used for banning any player, at any time, should Gom feel like it. This is not a professional way to go about things. If you are going to punish someone, at least give a good fucking reason to do so. Sigh. I don't want to rant any more, but I just thought that GomTV would be more professional than this. They had the perfect opportunity to take the high road, and show everyone that they don't care about pointless drama, but instead they chose to abuse their power and take it down to a lower level than I even thought possible. Good job making professional starcraft a farce. 1. Hardly harsh at all, just because Naniwa fought exceptionally hard to earn Code S does not make his punishment more harsh. Had he been a Korean he probably would have been perma banned. 2. They are trying to promote the global aspect, Sen has done well in the Korea vs World tournament before. 3. They probably wouldn't have enforced that rule if they didn't receive the amount of complaints that they did. | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
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baoluvboa
743 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:14 ReboundEU wrote: Good thing i didn't buy the GSL season ticket....i will never support competitions that take childish and racist decisions based on personal grudges and to please certain players (like nestea). No fairness..no honor...no respect...just insults. If i want to watch the best of the best i will wait for MLG...not GSL. I evaded the bigest waste of money i could have possibly made. They won...they wanted a "korean wonderland" and they got it. Good luck with your viewer database. If anything they accommodated and lessen their professionalism by accommodating foreign players who were not as skillful to be in the GSL. | ||
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
Revokes Naniwas Code S Spot; when he did nothing wrong. Then they invite IdrA and Sen for Free Code S Spots like WTF this is such a embaressment. GOM needs to Rescind their Decision. | ||
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