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Hagg
Sweden27 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:34 baoluvboa wrote: What Naniwa did was personally motivated and unprofessional. Korean culture is different from western values. Yes, I'm not denying that, but the way they handled this was not "korean culture", it was a quick and personal punishment without proper justification that even included a personal attack, when the situation was far from clear. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:32 TheWonderbread wrote: Insulting the Swedish people as a whole is a great way to further the discussion. Also if Naniwa was a Korean progamer then he would have been raised in the Korean culture most likely and he'd be well aware of the cultural issues that got him here in the first place. Meh, it's generally seen as bad to be patriotic in Sweden, EXCEPT when it comes to sports. And wellfare. And bashing America. But yeah, sports. Swedes are pretty nationalistic about sports. | ||
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vjee32
Finland3 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:35 bluQ wrote: Nani didn't broke any rules. GOM just bends their wishy-washy-you-can-interpret-it-as-you-want rules to have a basis to punish nani. If you relaly think it was against the rules why did it took them so long to figure that out? He lost a game on purpose in a professional sport. You tell me how that's not against the rules? (And to make this easier you can name any other sport where this is acceptable.) | ||
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Bibbit
Canada5377 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:36 bbm wrote: Pretty muich this. As much as I'd like to protest about naniwa's treatment by boycotting GSL, I want to watch GSL.  Heh same. I know they're sure as shit not (directly) getting my money though. Was gonna buy the big super pass thing but not anymore. | ||
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Taeng
37 Posts
- During a match, a player shall not offend the opponent or audience with abusive behaviours Abusive behaviour? No.Offended the opponent/ audience? Nope (paranoid fans maybe) Im sure Naniwa and Nestea were already feeling down being eliminated. And playing a meaningless game after that. | ||
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tribulator
774 Posts
Remember, you're TV stars, not athletes with real emotions. Channel your inner actor. | ||
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bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
If I break a rule for example: chatting during a broadcasted game. Im pretty sure they would punish you within the next hour. If I don't break any rule and they first need to sit together to discuss which rule they could apply, because there isnt any exact rule on that, then they will need 24+ hours to elaborate a bended-rule. | ||
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Philipd122
Australia776 Posts
Don't get swayed by the boycotters, they'll all return eventually when they realise there is no better sc2 league than the GSL. | ||
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ReaperX
Hong Kong1758 Posts
fuck no. | ||
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hjop
Netherlands10 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:04 billz wrote: If this was any other sport then lawyers would be consulted right now about lodging legal proceedings against Gom. Pretty scandalous behaviour from them - can you really imagine Manchester United getting banned from a tournament for fielding a weakened team in a game that doesn't matter? Great comparison, except a 6 probe rush has a ZERO % chance of winning at all, where as a WEAKENED Manchester United team always has a chance of winning AND they are giving lesser experienced players an opportunity to get some experience. I think you'd be better off comparing it to Manchester United not showing up at all, because then they'd have a ZERO % chance of winning. Such an out of place comparison. Naniwa could have just proxy 2 gated, cannon rushed or 4 gated. | ||
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iglocska
Norway589 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:27 ptrpb wrote: It was a different situation, anyone who thinks they're the same situation is frankly a fool. CoCa vs Byun was for a potential Code A seed Nani vs Nestea was a pointless match that had no tangible reward for winning or losing If Coca vs Byun was a pointless match that had no affect on anything to do with GSL placings or prize money, yes I would be upset. Coca vs Byun was a pointless match for coca since he was code S. Also, it was a lower round of a minor tournament. | ||
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Host-
New Zealand459 Posts
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forSeohyun
504 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:32 vjee32 wrote: All you babies crying that punishment is too harsh and nani did nothing AGAINST THE RULES. Name any other professional league in any sport where trying to lose as fast as possible is not punishable? Not going to argue, just provide and example that it could be otherwise - As far as I know: Professional cycling! You have people slow pedaling, you have people riding only 3 days out of a week long race and then calling it quits just for the sake of training, you have agreements in the peloton where you don't attack and teams helping each other with favours. You have show races where the riders are paid and the winner's are agreed upon beforehand. And pretty anything goes, except buying real races (latest controversy Vino vs Kolobnev) and doing PED (although it is probably prevalent amongst some). And it is accepted because everyone is doing it. Naniwa should've known better though. | ||
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onemanlan
United States13 Posts
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Biane
Australia645 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:36 Eineez wrote: Since the rule is so unspecific, you could basically apply it to all sorts of "bm", eg manner mules, leaving without gg, 6pools or whatever. At least 6 pool has a chance of winning. If i recall, didn't Naniwa not gg once before against fxolucky or something? | ||
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
At least Slasher will have something to talk about...... | ||
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arQ
1033 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:30 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Im pissed off that people think 'prize hunter' is a negative thing. While I agree, I think everyone who knows anything about Nani knows that money means nothing to him in this context. Watch the "inside team dignitas" video from MLG. It's all about the competition, and being the best. Warn him, sure, but this is disgusting. | ||
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Remb
United States190 Posts
Gretech is a commercial organization, and in capitalism, you vote with your money. GOMTV lost my vote. | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:33 vtbarrera wrote: Given Korean culture I'm not surprised. Everyone talking about boycotting Gom is liar because you know they'll tune in to watch IdrA battle it out in Code-S. Because we don't have to pay for it. | ||
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Yami_no_cosmos
Sweden59 Posts
But I most say that I'm super exited to see Mr Idra. ♥ <3 EG fan what can you expect hu? I secretly wish that this happens again so that I can see Jinro in code S. Don't tell anyone.... xD | ||
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