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Huge misinformation that I have translated. Therefore I have edited the post. I am deeply sorry about this.
Please refer to : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=294943
Also Mr.Chae mentioned that David Kim will come to the finals of Blizzcup.
T/N : When GOM announced the new format of GSL tour 2012. They planned out total 2 seeds to Code S and 2 seeds to Code A. Two seeds are sponsor seeds which are given to Idra and Sen. Two seeds are up/down seeds that will be given out to top performing non-Korea players. Therefore Idra and Sen did not suddenly get in that Naniwa's punishment is a separate issue.
T/N 2 : There is a rule about players' behaviours, whether Naniwa broke it or not is up to your discussion
Warning or disqualification
- 경기중에 과격한 행동으로 상대 게이머나 관중들에게 위협을 가할 때
- During a match, a player shall not offend the opponent or audience with abusive behaviours
Poll: Do you think the decision of taking code S from Naniwa is reasonable?No (1273) 55% Yes (1032) 45% 2305 total votes Your vote: Do you think the decision of taking code S from Naniwa is reasonable? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
Poll: People are not reaching the middle ground, why would that be?Cultural Clash (736) 39% Naniwa's fans are just ignorant (597) 32% Koreans are just being ridiculous (477) 25% Others (73) 4% 1883 total votes Your vote: People are not reaching the middle ground, why would that be? (Vote): Cultural Clash
(Vote): Koreans are just being ridiculous
(Vote): Naniwa's fans are just ignorant
(Vote): Others
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NaNiwa did nothing wrong and should not be punished. If he gets punished in any sort of significant way because GOM had a stupid format I might stop watching GSL.
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how incredibly unprofessional of gom. naniwa didn't break any rules. they should learn from their mistake and change their rules forbidding naniwas behavior, but instead they stoop far lower than naniwa did and do this.
twitter comfirmation: http://twitter.com/#!/Ethan_Ahn/status/146884383549308929
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Fuckin idiots, bye bye GSL.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On December 14 2011 18:40 Archerylady wrote:how incredibly unprofessional of gom. naniwa didn't break any rules. they should learn from their mistake and change their rules forbidding naniwas behavior, but instead they stoop far lower than naniwa did and do this. twitter comfirmation: http://twitter.com/#!/Ethan_Ahn/status/146884383549308929
No, this is common for Korea culture. They take respect and pride as much as Japanese. If they don't do this, there is no way they can explain to Korean audiences.
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GOM TV, sinking to Naniwa's level. Sweet sweet drama.
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To me, the worst part of this is the way that GOM completely sidesteps any responsibility. When naniwa and Hero threw their games, it was due to the flawed format of the tournament. Having a bad tournament-system produces perverse incentives. We saw the result of that. GOM fails to acknowledge their own part in what has happened, and instead puts all blame on one player. That is not the way to do it.
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On December 14 2011 18:43 Veldril wrote:No, this is common for Korea culture. They take respect and pride as much as Japanese. If they don't do this, there is no way they can explain to Korean audiences.
They explain that he did not break any rules and that they will endeavor to make sure situations like this never occur.
You do NOT punish a player who broke no rules because what he did isn't part of their "culture". This is possibly one of the most unprofessional things I have ever heard of a company doing.
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On December 14 2011 18:42 Jiddra wrote:
Fuckin idiots, bye bye GSL.
cya dont let the door hit u on the way out
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On December 14 2011 18:43 Veldril wrote:No, this is common for Korea culture. They take respect and pride as much as Japanese. If they don't do this, there is no way they can explain to Korean audiences.
Exactly. He's an invite to their tournament and he was really disrespectful. This is what you get.
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Well played GOM. You needed to make an example of Naniwa and show people that pathetic displays like that aren't acceptable.
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On December 14 2011 18:44 m0ck wrote:
To me, the worst part of this is the way that GOM completely sidesteps any responsibility. When naniwa and Hero threw their games, it was due to the flawed format of the tournament. Having a bad tournament-system produces perverse incentives. We saw the result of that. GOM fails to acknowledge their own part in what has happened, and instead puts all blame on one player. That is not the way to do it.
when did hero throw a game ?
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Terrible decision by GSL, and I love you guys (I was at the live Blizzcon finals in Anaheim and have watched nearly every season). Also, I'm not even a huge fan of Naniwa to be honest but the kid doesn't deserve a ban considering he didn't break any official rule.
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This is actually outrageous. We have a very clear rule that there should be no punishment without law (in this case without a rule). It's really, really fucked up.
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Mr. Chae #1. Happy to see this.
Don't go to Korea and act like a moron when you're a representative of the foreigner community.
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On December 14 2011 18:40 Ruscour wrote:
NaNiwa did nothing wrong and should not be punished. If he gets punished in any sort of significant way because GOM had a stupid format I might stop watching GSL.
Sigh. You have not been watching any sc2 show have you.
I support of the punishment.
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On December 14 2011 18:45 krews wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 18:44 m0ck wrote:
To me, the worst part of this is the way that GOM completely sidesteps any responsibility. When naniwa and Hero threw their games, it was due to the flawed format of the tournament. Having a bad tournament-system produces perverse incentives. We saw the result of that. GOM fails to acknowledge their own part in what has happened, and instead puts all blame on one player. That is not the way to do it. when did hero throw a game ?
Against DRG in group A, when he was already eliminated. He clearly didn't play to win.
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Can we just be happy that we get IU for Blizzcup?
:D
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Honestly, this is absolutely disgraceful from GOM.
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EPT
