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SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
December 14 2011 09:50 GMT
#41
I have no idea how people are siding with naniwa on this. He has always been so disrespectful and finally got punished for it, glad GOM dropped the hammer.
Who the fuck has a family of fucking trees? This song is so god damn stupid. Fuck you song, fuck you and your stupid trees. -itmeJP
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
December 14 2011 09:51 GMT
#42
On December 14 2011 18:45 Kazuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:40 Ruscour wrote:
NaNiwa did nothing wrong and should not be punished. If he gets punished in any sort of significant way because GOM had a stupid format I might stop watching GSL.


Sigh. You have not been watching any sc2 show have you.

I support of the punishment.

What kind of question is that? Because the hosts of SotG had a different opinion that makes me wrong? What matters is the facts. NaNiwa made a stupid decision, I don't think anyone could dispute that, but to be punished for something that broke no rules is ludicrous.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
December 14 2011 09:51 GMT
#43
so all those bitbybits that all in'd all season 1/2 then were never heard of again werent prize money hunters they were pro minded players?

i know code s didnt exist back then but gslopen was still the top tier of competition
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 09:51:28
December 14 2011 09:51 GMT
#44
I can understand. People pay good money for GSL, of which Naniwa reportedly received $800 just for those few games.

After I've just paid $100 for GSL (without GSTL) I don't have a lot of sympathy for that fact the he couldn't be arsed to show a good game.
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
December 14 2011 09:51 GMT
#45
I 100% did not like what Naniwa did but I also 100% disagree with what Gom has done. I really don't know what to think of the situation lol.
hahaimhenry
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada368 Posts
December 14 2011 09:51 GMT
#46
he didn't break any rules.
:]
AnTiX
Profile Joined April 2010
France29 Posts
December 14 2011 09:51 GMT
#47
Bye GSL.

Naniwa is a fucking competitor not a puppet show. You fucking don't get it. Fucking amateurish Kor.
Rather than love, than money, than faith, than fame, than fairness... give me truth.
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
December 14 2011 09:51 GMT
#48
On December 14 2011 18:49 lxxpxrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:44 Ruscour wrote:
On December 14 2011 18:43 Veldril wrote:
On December 14 2011 18:40 Archerylady wrote:
how incredibly unprofessional of gom. naniwa didn't break any rules. they should learn from their mistake and change their rules forbidding naniwas behavior, but instead they stoop far lower than naniwa did and do this.

twitter comfirmation: http://twitter.com/#!/Ethan_Ahn/status/146884383549308929


No, this is common for Korea culture. They take respect and pride as much as Japanese. If they don't do this, there is no way they can explain to Korean audiences.

They explain that he did not break any rules and that they will endeavor to make sure situations like this never occur.

You do NOT punish a player who broke no rules because what he did isn't part of their "culture". This is possibly one of the most unprofessional things I have ever heard of a company doing.


This. He broke no rules.

I will not be buying a new GSL ticket for next in protest. Not because it's Naniwa, but because this incredibly unprofessional and bad decision making, blaming someone else for their own lacking format.

Gom hasn't broken any rules either. He's having his invite revoked. It's their tournament, why should they help someone who doesn't have any respect for them?
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Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
December 14 2011 09:52 GMT
#49
On December 14 2011 18:40 Ruscour wrote:
NaNiwa did nothing wrong and should not be punished. If he gets punished in any sort of significant way because GOM had a stupid format I might stop watching GSL.


I MIGHT STOP WATCHING GSL!

Sorry


But yea, I think Nani deserved this. He got an invite Code S slot, and then he does something like this ... sure, it was a meaningless game, but Nani, if everyone did this, how the fuck do you think the game and tournaments would be.

Instead of staying in, playing your best shit and beating Nestea in an awesome game, which quite a lot of people believe you can do, and thus go out of the cup with a bang, you decide to be disrespectful to everyone.

I hope you get your confidence back, and I hope you learn from this.
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 09:53:35
December 14 2011 09:52 GMT
#50
I love the Byun, Coca, and Choya arguments even though they all got banned from the GSL for their behavior. Even rain got officially banned for 2 months for not telling them he was dropping out ahead of time. I'll continue to support GOM for being professional and not getting walked over by a diva who thinks he can get away with this shit for the rest of his career.
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
December 14 2011 09:52 GMT
#51
On December 14 2011 18:51 turdburgler wrote:
so all those bitbybits that all in'd all season 1/2 then were never heard of again werent prize money hunters they were pro minded players?

i know code s didnt exist back then but gslopen was still the top tier of competition


At least the games were not 1 minute and 24 seconds long.
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
December 14 2011 09:52 GMT
#52
I'm gonna buy the yearly ticket now to support Gom, glad that they have standards. Gom fighting!
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Darneck
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1394 Posts
December 14 2011 09:52 GMT
#53
Such a horrible decision by GOM, couldn't have made a worse move than this. No rules were broken or anything.
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
December 14 2011 09:52 GMT
#54
On December 14 2011 18:50 SC2Phoenix wrote:
I have no idea how people are siding with naniwa on this. He has always been so disrespectful and finally got punished for it, glad GOM dropped the hammer.



Not siding with nani just against gom making up rules that only apply in cases they want them to apply to but ignoring blatant win trading and throws by other players.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
Qwix
Profile Joined October 2010
531 Posts
December 14 2011 09:53 GMT
#55
On December 14 2011 18:50 TheWonderbread wrote:


Start at 18:50.

Makes me sick that everyone is saying that Naniwa is an amateur prize hunter or only in it for the money. It's very clear what his goals are and what he wants out of the game. I understand the difference in culture here but in a culture that prides themselves so very much on respect they need to stop saying such fucking disrespectful things about Naniwa,

Yes, NaNiwa and CatZ make an amazing duo!
ggahSoO
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States191 Posts
December 14 2011 09:54 GMT
#56
On December 14 2011 18:45 Kazuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:40 Ruscour wrote:
NaNiwa did nothing wrong and should not be punished. If he gets punished in any sort of significant way because GOM had a stupid format I might stop watching GSL.


Sigh. You have not been watching any sc2 show have you.

I support of the punishment.


Or you haven't? Most hosts have been saying that they don't feel that a banning is a necessary punishment.
firebathero x bisu
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
December 14 2011 09:54 GMT
#57
On December 14 2011 18:51 hahaimhenry wrote:
he didn't break any rules.

You don't need written rules for basic/common etiquette.
It's certainly not a rare occurrence for officials to make a personal judgement for fines/punishments for player actions in other sports.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
December 14 2011 09:54 GMT
#58
On December 14 2011 18:44 Subversive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:43 Veldril wrote:
On December 14 2011 18:40 Archerylady wrote:
how incredibly unprofessional of gom. naniwa didn't break any rules. they should learn from their mistake and change their rules forbidding naniwas behavior, but instead they stoop far lower than naniwa did and do this.

twitter comfirmation: http://twitter.com/#!/Ethan_Ahn/status/146884383549308929


No, this is common for Korea culture. They take respect and pride as much as Japanese. If they don't do this, there is no way they can explain to Korean audiences.

Exactly. He's an invite to their tournament and he was really disrespectful. This is what you get.


He was not an invite.

Gom set out a list of what tourneys people had to win or place in to qualify and NaNi qualified through MLG providence.
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
MenschFeind
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden12 Posts
December 14 2011 09:54 GMT
#59
I can understand punishment, but not punishment outside the rules. As far as I know (haven't actually been able to find the rules on the net so I could read them first-hand, anyone got a link?), he's not breaking any rules. He is however not behaving well.

The professional solution would in my opinion be to condemn his behaviour for now, and change the rules for the future. Not make decisions outside the rules.

(This is all assuming there's no actual rule against what naniwa did)
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 09:59:22
December 14 2011 09:54 GMT
#60
On December 14 2011 18:45 Tryxtira wrote:
This is actually outrageous. We have a very clear rule that there should be no punishment without law (in this case without a rule). It's really, really fucked up.


I agree, nullum crimen sine lege. I really think that they are overreacting way too much, yes he threw away a game and "robbed" viewers of a potential exciting game, but really, taking his Code S spot away for that? Terrible decision.

Then again one could argue it's part of a customary law. In that case, yeah the punishment would be lawful.
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