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Let's face it, at some point they just overdid it with the Terran nerfs and Protoss/Zerg buffs. It might still be balanced for (current) top level play, but everything below that... TvP for example is ridiculously hard between Platinum and High Masters imho. Heck, even top European and American Terrans are doing poorly against P and Z at the moment.
That's probably not the only reason less and less people play Terran, but I imagine a lot of people reach their limit* somewhere between Platinum and Masters. If that's the case you can get very frustrated very quickly knowing that you have to put in a lot more effort(mechanics, coordination, game plan, etc.) than your opponent to win non-mirror matches.
And let's be honest here, no matter how many people claim to have equal fun whether they win or lose, everybody likes winning more than losing.
*as in they won't get much better than that without hardcore practice
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On December 16 2011 00:30 cmen15 wrote:
Blue flamed hellions are amazing vs's zealots and no one uses them lol.
lol, no they are not. chargelots destroy everything
On December 16 2011 00:30 cmen15 wrote:
Drops are still amazing in this match up and all of a sudden terrans are not mass dropping anymore, Why?... i have no fckin idea.
Because every toss who's not completely incompetent will make observers to see when you move out and until then he'll have his army spread around so you can't drop.
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I'm actually going to learn Terran, and I've been playing Zerg since the release. I'm excited.
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On December 16 2011 00:30 cmen15 wrote:
Let thy marine tears fall onto thyself. Six months ago terran was raping protoss with the same fckin build all day and finally protoss's figure out how to counter the mmm ball. Most terrans have not changed their build at all in this match up from the first season... Blue flamed hellions are amazing vs's zealots and no one uses them lol. Drops are still amazing in this match up and all of a sudden terrans are not mass dropping anymore, Why?... i have no fckin idea.
Lol, nice try goldie. Blue flame hellions were nerfed to hell. Mech is stupid in TVP and does not work, read Goody's reactions to it (arguably the best mech terran in the world). So no, thanks for the spill on how terran is still imba. (sarcasm) Terran players have always been just better players, the pros playing terran right now were sub par Broodwar pros and are really, really good. Any pro protoss, other than arguably Huk (I am a big fan of Huk) and Hero are the only good pro protoss players, just based on mechanics, where they have gone, etc. Every other pro protoss is a sad sight and was never good in broodwar. (Well, Noni, but Tyler is not at par right now).
EDIT: O and they never learned just got better doing the same build, as well. Then terran tried doing blue flame and every single toss screamed OP and cried,(terran lost their only way to go mech against toss), sad day.
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On December 16 2011 00:38 dde wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 20:03 darkness wrote:On December 15 2011 18:55 dde wrote:
I have been waiting for a thread like this lol. Because everytime i won as terran in a tournament my opponent goes I won because i played terran. =(. I been mainly offracing as protoss on ladder and i got in top 16 GM :S. Proof you're logged on as that GM account or it didn't happen why not check sc2ranks.com LOL
XFD
On a related note, SlayerS_Dragon is at least dabbling in Protoss these days. These higher up Terrans switching makes me sad. 
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So basically, what terrans are saying is that it is impossible to win as terran, so people switch races?
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On December 16 2011 00:51 allerion wrote:
So basically, what terrans are saying is that it is impossible to win as terran, so people switch races?
No, its not impossible, its just pointless to try because next week (aka whenever they are doing the next patch) terran is getting another nerf and protoss and zerg are getting buffed. GG
EDIT: BTW, you can see in almost all of the patches blizzard releases there is a clear, crystal clear, very (that is how clear it is) that there is an obvious protoss love/advantage/bias in almost every patch. Boom! Look at every patch note and tell me when protoss was nerfed, and then had to learn a new style of play. Beta?
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On December 16 2011 00:41 bLah. wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 00:30 cmen15 wrote:
Blue flamed hellions are amazing vs's zealots and no one uses them lol. lol, no they are not. chargelots destroy everything Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 00:30 cmen15 wrote:
Drops are still amazing in this match up and all of a sudden terrans are not mass dropping anymore, Why?... i have no fckin idea. Because every toss who's not completely incompetent will make observers to see when you move out and until then he'll have his army spread around so you can't drop.
Nah man, BF Hellions OWN chargelots.... you just need 500 APM to kite with them while also controlling your ghosts, stutter stepping your bio, and microing your vikings. Don't forget to stay on top of your macro and production. Meanwhile, Toss has 50 APM because chargelots pretty much do work without any user input necessary.
It's so frustrating how Protoss are all in some sick denial about the state of TvP. Terrans have exhausted almost all options in this matchup from sky terran, pure mech, bio mech, ghost pushes, a wide variety of all-ins and NOTHING works. The pros wouldn't be using bio every game if there was a single viable alternative, but there isn't. Bio is the only strategy that has even a remote shot at victory.
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On December 16 2011 00:51 allerion wrote:
So basically, what terrans are saying is that it is impossible to win as terran, so people switch races?
What people are saying is that although Terran has a huge skill-cap, At the lower leagues it's much more difficult to utilize those skills effectively. Constant dropping,harass,macro is much more difficult for players in low masters and below in comparison to Zerg and Protoss.
On December 16 2011 00:52 xUnSeEnx wrote:
No, its not impossible, its just pointless to try because next week (aka whenever they are doing the next patch) terran is getting another nerf and protoss and zerg are getting buffed. GG
EDIT: BTW, you can see in almost all of the patches blizzard releases there is a clear, crystal clear, very (that is how clear it is) that there is an obvious protoss love/advantage/bias in almost every patch. Boom! Look at every patch note and tell me when protoss was nerfed, and then had to learn a new style of play. Beta?
Mothership nerf and Khydarian Amulet nerf. Especially the Kyhdarian Amulet nerf. 
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On December 16 2011 00:53 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 00:41 bLah. wrote:On December 16 2011 00:30 cmen15 wrote:
Blue flamed hellions are amazing vs's zealots and no one uses them lol. lol, no they are not. chargelots destroy everything On December 16 2011 00:30 cmen15 wrote:
Drops are still amazing in this match up and all of a sudden terrans are not mass dropping anymore, Why?... i have no fckin idea. Because every toss who's not completely incompetent will make observers to see when you move out and until then he'll have his army spread around so you can't drop. Nah man, BF Hellions OWN chargelots.... you just need 500 APM to kite with them while also controlling your ghosts, stutter stepping your bio, and microing your vikings. Don't forget to stay on top of your macro and production. Meanwhile, Toss has 50 APM because chargelots pretty much do work without any user input necessary. It's so frustrating how Protoss are all in some sick denial about the state of TvP. Terrans have exhausted almost all options in this matchup from sky terran, pure mech, bio mech, ghost pushes, a wide variety of all-ins and NOTHING works. The pros wouldn't be using bio every game if there was a single viable alternative, but there isn't. Bio is the only strategy that has even a remote shot at victory.
true I played toss and held off a marine/scv/thor all in just the other day. Pretty simple really playing an easy 2D race.
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On December 16 2011 00:50 aksfjh wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 00:38 dde wrote:On December 15 2011 20:03 darkness wrote:On December 15 2011 18:55 dde wrote:
I have been waiting for a thread like this lol. Because everytime i won as terran in a tournament my opponent goes I won because i played terran. =(. I been mainly offracing as protoss on ladder and i got in top 16 GM :S. Proof you're logged on as that GM account or it didn't happen why not check sc2ranks.com LOL XFD On a related note, SlayerS_Dragon is at least dabbling in Protoss these days. These higher up Terrans switching makes me sad.
It's funny how good terran players like Dragon, BeastyQT, DDE, etc. can play protoss for a day and be competitive at their high GM tier.
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On December 16 2011 00:51 allerion wrote:
So basically, what terrans are saying is that it is impossible to win as terran, so people switch races?
Not at all.
Here's how it works. People pick races on pretty much arbitrary criteria. Usually something like music or liking bunkers, something relatively nonsensical. They continue playing that race, attempting to get better. Sometimes, though, there is an aspect (or multiple aspects) which becomes unfun. These can be a lot of things like "the race is too easy," "I'm losing to people that I'm better than," "the strategy I liked got nerfed into the ground," or "everybody hates on me for playing ______." There are many more reasons than just the ones I mentioned, but the idea is that something about Terran is driving traditional Terrans away from playing Terran. This could be race switching, or just plain not playing any more. This topic is discussing those reasons.
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On December 16 2011 00:55 KonohaFlash wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 00:51 allerion wrote:
So basically, what terrans are saying is that it is impossible to win as terran, so people switch races? QUOTE] On December 16 2011 00:51 allerion wrote:What people are saying is that although Terran has a huge skill-cap, At the lower leagues it's much more difficult to utilize those skills effectively. Constant dropping,harass,macro is much more difficult for players in low masters and below in comparison to Zerg and Protoss. Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 00:52 xUnSeEnx wrote:
No, its not impossible, its just pointless to try because next week (aka whenever they are doing the next patch) terran is getting another nerf and protoss and zerg are getting buffed. GG
EDIT: BTW, you can see in almost all of the patches blizzard releases there is a clear, crystal clear, very (that is how clear it is) that there is an obvious protoss love/advantage/bias in almost every patch. Boom! Look at every patch note and tell me when protoss was nerfed, and then had to learn a new style of play. Beta? Mothership nerf and Khydarian Amulet nerf. Especially the Kyhdarian Amulet nerf.
Rofl since when did protoss need a mothership in TvP? never. besides they just rebuffed it. The amulet was honestly beyond op and needed a nerf, much like the infestor fungal ridiculous damage. Even protoss and zerg were saying the amulet needed to be nerfed. Lol. your point is invalid.
EDIT: Besides, ROFL, toss never had to learn a new style of play (read before you post) I was saying when have they been nerfed AND had to learn to play differently? Sorry never.
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On December 16 2011 00:38 dde wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 20:03 darkness wrote:On December 15 2011 18:55 dde wrote:
I have been waiting for a thread like this lol. Because everytime i won as terran in a tournament my opponent goes I won because i played terran. =(. I been mainly offracing as protoss on ladder and i got in top 16 GM :S. Proof you're logged on as that GM account or it didn't happen why not check sc2ranks.com LOL
haha heres the link for people who dont know who you are
http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/2309313/GoSuDDE
73% winrate off-race is impressive 
i remember interview with ret who said he off-races as protoss quite abit and he beats good players even without much practice
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On December 16 2011 00:57 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 00:50 aksfjh wrote:On December 16 2011 00:38 dde wrote:On December 15 2011 20:03 darkness wrote:On December 15 2011 18:55 dde wrote:
I have been waiting for a thread like this lol. Because everytime i won as terran in a tournament my opponent goes I won because i played terran. =(. I been mainly offracing as protoss on ladder and i got in top 16 GM :S. Proof you're logged on as that GM account or it didn't happen why not check sc2ranks.com LOL XFD On a related note, SlayerS_Dragon is at least dabbling in Protoss these days. These higher up Terrans switching makes me sad. It's funny how good terran players like Dragon, BeastyQT, DDE, etc. can play protoss for a day and be competitive at their high GM tier.
To be fair, overall mechanics and game knowledge go further in that situation than you're giving credit for.
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On December 16 2011 01:00 jupiter6 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 00:38 dde wrote:On December 15 2011 20:03 darkness wrote:On December 15 2011 18:55 dde wrote:
I have been waiting for a thread like this lol. Because everytime i won as terran in a tournament my opponent goes I won because i played terran. =(. I been mainly offracing as protoss on ladder and i got in top 16 GM :S. Proof you're logged on as that GM account or it didn't happen why not check sc2ranks.com LOL haha heres the link for people who dont know who you are http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/2309313/GoSuDDE73% winrate off-race is impressive i remember interview with ret who said he off-races as protoss quite abit and he beats good players even without any practice
O_O holy shit DDE... why are you even wasting time with Terran anymore? Imagine how good you could be if you devoted some time to Toss...
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On December 16 2011 00:53 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 00:41 bLah. wrote:On December 16 2011 00:30 cmen15 wrote:
Blue flamed hellions are amazing vs's zealots and no one uses them lol. lol, no they are not. chargelots destroy everything On December 16 2011 00:30 cmen15 wrote:
Drops are still amazing in this match up and all of a sudden terrans are not mass dropping anymore, Why?... i have no fckin idea. Because every toss who's not completely incompetent will make observers to see when you move out and until then he'll have his army spread around so you can't drop. Nah man, BF Hellions OWN chargelots.... you just need 500 APM to kite with them while also controlling your ghosts, stutter stepping your bio, and microing your vikings. Don't forget to stay on top of your macro and production. Meanwhile, Toss has 50 APM because chargelots pretty much do work without any user input necessary. It's so frustrating how Protoss are all in some sick denial about the state of TvP. Terrans have exhausted almost all options in this matchup from sky terran, pure mech, bio mech, ghost pushes, a wide variety of all-ins and NOTHING works. The pros wouldn't be using bio every game if there was a single viable alternative, but there isn't. Bio is the only strategy that has even a remote shot at victory.
At realease, terrans went mmmv. Now terrans go mmmvg. Thats some crazy innovation. How do you know there isnt a viable alternative? in SOTG Artosis talked about nobody really trying mech except Goody, and it works fairly well for him. Id be pretty interested to see these mass amounts of games (we can all agree it takes a while to hash something out) that terrans have tried new things, and have them all crushed.
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On December 16 2011 01:02 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 01:00 jupiter6 wrote:On December 16 2011 00:38 dde wrote:On December 15 2011 20:03 darkness wrote:On December 15 2011 18:55 dde wrote:
I have been waiting for a thread like this lol. Because everytime i won as terran in a tournament my opponent goes I won because i played terran. =(. I been mainly offracing as protoss on ladder and i got in top 16 GM :S. Proof you're logged on as that GM account or it didn't happen why not check sc2ranks.com LOL haha heres the link for people who dont know who you are http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/2309313/GoSuDDE73% winrate off-race is impressive i remember interview with ret who said he off-races as protoss quite abit and he beats good players even without any practice O_O holy shit DDE... why are you even wasting time with Terran anymore? Imagine how good you could be if you devoted some time to Toss...
Because he knows the Koreans will call him a scrub for playing a mind, numbing easy race.
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On December 16 2011 01:01 aksfjh wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 00:57 SupLilSon wrote:On December 16 2011 00:50 aksfjh wrote:On December 16 2011 00:38 dde wrote:On December 15 2011 20:03 darkness wrote:On December 15 2011 18:55 dde wrote:
I have been waiting for a thread like this lol. Because everytime i won as terran in a tournament my opponent goes I won because i played terran. =(. I been mainly offracing as protoss on ladder and i got in top 16 GM :S. Proof you're logged on as that GM account or it didn't happen why not check sc2ranks.com LOL XFD On a related note, SlayerS_Dragon is at least dabbling in Protoss these days. These higher up Terrans switching makes me sad. It's funny how good terran players like Dragon, BeastyQT, DDE, etc. can play protoss for a day and be competitive at their high GM tier. To be fair, overall mechanics and game knowledge go further in that situation than you're giving credit for.
Well, they were all playing players around their skill level, since they were playing on their GM accounts and not smurphs. Their opponents should have about the same level of mechanics/game knowledge and should have a significant advantage by playing their main race. However, this is not the case. DDE 140-50 as offrace in GM? To me it seems like the Terrans have developed much stronger mechanics and game sense due to the nature of Terran play and this translates to relative ease in playing Protoss.
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On December 16 2011 01:07 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 01:01 aksfjh wrote:On December 16 2011 00:57 SupLilSon wrote:On December 16 2011 00:50 aksfjh wrote:On December 16 2011 00:38 dde wrote:On December 15 2011 20:03 darkness wrote:On December 15 2011 18:55 dde wrote:
I have been waiting for a thread like this lol. Because everytime i won as terran in a tournament my opponent goes I won because i played terran. =(. I been mainly offracing as protoss on ladder and i got in top 16 GM :S. Proof you're logged on as that GM account or it didn't happen why not check sc2ranks.com LOL XFD On a related note, SlayerS_Dragon is at least dabbling in Protoss these days. These higher up Terrans switching makes me sad. It's funny how good terran players like Dragon, BeastyQT, DDE, etc. can play protoss for a day and be competitive at their high GM tier. To be fair, overall mechanics and game knowledge go further in that situation than you're giving credit for. Well, they were all playing players around their skill level, since they were playing on their GM accounts and not smurphs. Their opponents should have about the same level of mechanics/game knowledge and should have a significant advantage by playing their main race. However, this is not the case. DDE 140-50 as offrace in GM? To me it seems like the Terrans have developed much stronger mechanics and game sense due to the nature of Terran play and this translates to relative ease in playing Protoss.
I second this. Also, want to add that I blame blizzard for designing such a 3D race terran and zerg and a 2D race like protoss (what I mean by dimensions is just options, transitions, mechanics, all are so terrible for toss).
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