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On December 15 2011 22:17 Erasme wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 10:40 statikg wrote:On December 15 2011 10:34 Xalorian wrote:On December 15 2011 09:35 secretary bird wrote:On December 15 2011 09:26 jaminski wrote:On December 14 2011 10:16 Kharnage wrote:
My mate doesn't enjoy terran anymore cause he feels they can be abusive and OP. He doesn't feel like his wins are because of his skill but because of his race. i feel exactly the same way  His "mate" doesnt exist he made it up to whine about balance and I'm not so sure you ever played terran, the campaign maybe? Actually, two of my friends stopped SC2 completly (well they are playing 2v2 now, but yeah.) because they feeled like Terran was OP, and that it was hard to actually know if it was because of the race or because of their skills if they were winning. It does not automatically mean that Terran is really OP, it was just their view, but yeah, those people exists. Stop randomly bitching and calling people liar. Who quits the game because they feel that their race is OP? Geez bronzies...I would never quit if my race was OP. Really tho I'm sure these guys are all bronzies cuz thats where terran shines 3rax > everything Your race is balanced, yet you whine like a sissy. If your race was op, you would tell us to 'nydus moar'. Oups, that what you did. Seriously terran, I thought that you weren't like us (zergs) aka little whiners. I guess I was wrong. Play the game or quit it. If your feelings are hurted when someone tell you to 'kill yourself' then you're a girl. :p (me no sexist, dont hit kekeke)
don't worry terrans don't wine, a terran that wines isn't a true terran and is considered a winning team joiner, means they will be soon zergs anyway. (or toss depending which is their worst matchup)
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On December 15 2011 23:37 FeyFey wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 22:17 Erasme wrote:On December 15 2011 10:40 statikg wrote:On December 15 2011 10:34 Xalorian wrote:On December 15 2011 09:35 secretary bird wrote:On December 15 2011 09:26 jaminski wrote:On December 14 2011 10:16 Kharnage wrote:
My mate doesn't enjoy terran anymore cause he feels they can be abusive and OP. He doesn't feel like his wins are because of his skill but because of his race. i feel exactly the same way His "mate" doesnt exist he made it up to whine about balance and I'm not so sure you ever played terran, the campaign maybe? Actually, two of my friends stopped SC2 completly (well they are playing 2v2 now, but yeah.) because they feeled like Terran was OP, and that it was hard to actually know if it was because of the race or because of their skills if they were winning. It does not automatically mean that Terran is really OP, it was just their view, but yeah, those people exists. Stop randomly bitching and calling people liar. Who quits the game because they feel that their race is OP? Geez bronzies...I would never quit if my race was OP. Really tho I'm sure these guys are all bronzies cuz thats where terran shines 3rax > everything Your race is balanced, yet you whine like a sissy. If your race was op, you would tell us to 'nydus moar'. Oups, that what you did. Seriously terran, I thought that you weren't like us (zergs) aka little whiners. I guess I was wrong. Play the game or quit it. If your feelings are hurted when someone tell you to 'kill yourself' then you're a girl. :p (me no sexist, dont hit kekeke) don't worry terrans don't wine, a terran that wines isn't a true terran and is considered a winning team joiner, means they will be soon zergs anyway. (or toss depending which is their worst matchup)
I agree. Like in Broodwar (not that this game has anything to do with it), terrans just learned ways to win even though there were nerfs, buffs, etc. It did not matter from a true terran's perspective!
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is it just me or does the game always seem the most balanced when terrans QQ? I mean, at the beginning zerg was really struggling and terrans were even reluctant to admit the horribly OP reaper harass. Then it came the huge protoss downfall and terrans just told us to L2P.
If we look at recent tournaments, racial balance has hardly ever been as great as it is now.
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On December 14 2011 10:23 Xova wrote:
I play Terran as masters, THIS IS MY OPINION AND NOTHING MORE! Remember that. I feel like Terran is the hardest race to play, ALTHOUGH I have never really played the other races myself, it is incredibly easy to get rolled over by protoss and completely out macro'd in the mid to later stages of the game by a zerg.
My two cents on the table, I think people get frusterated with Terran when they game goes past 20 minutes because Terran is less forgiving than say protoss. So they switch to a new race. Again that is my opinion.
I've to say, i am high Master Protoss at EU, and i freakn LOOOOOOVE to play Protoss, i also was Protoss at a decent lvl in Broodwar - but however, in my honest opinion, Terran and Zerg is so much easier to play in SC2, thanks to the advantage that you can macro during big fights while you have to keep an eye on your army as Protoss and Storm / Feedback / ForceField and Blinkmicro, where you normally have to macro, builing zealot/dt/stalker/ht and build whatever robounits or stargateunits AND chronoboost them.
I am not saying that Zerg or Terran needs no skill, i am just saying that Terran and Zerg are more macro-friendly than Protoss.
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On December 15 2011 23:42 sleepingdog wrote:
is it just me or does the game always seem the most balanced when terrans QQ? I mean, at the beginning zerg was really struggling and terrans were even reluctant to admit the horribly OP reaper harass. Then it came the huge protoss downfall and terrans just told us to L2P.
If we look at recent tournaments, racial balance has hardly ever been as great as it is now.
Lol? Terrans told toss to Learn different styles of play. Not continue doing what you do every game. But it does not matter because QQ toss got what they wanted. (Hence I switched to toss because it is very easy, I just rofl stomp terrans all day).
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On December 15 2011 23:33 TeeTS wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 23:08 petro1987 wrote:
On the bright side, I think Blizzard is trying to address this in HotS making mech actually viable in TvP. I hope this works. Mech will NEVER be playable in TvP, because every mech ground unit is simply hardcountered by Immortals. and mech/air is at the moment to gas intensive and will be in the future! The Warhound will be a pure Mutalisk counter, cause guess what: We already have a unit that has a decent range and high dmg against mech units, since nearly every Mech Unit in the game is armored. So don't expect too much out of HotS right now, because on the facts given at this point of time, there won't be a big difference, how terran will be played in HotS!
You make some good points. About mech working in TvP at HotS: I'm actually more hoping than being certain of. But you gotta agree with me that if Blizzard is adding 3 new mech units (battle hellion, warhound and shredder) and 0 bio units they are trying to make mech viable. If they will succeed at it is a whole different story.
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On December 15 2011 23:44 xUnSeEnx wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 23:42 sleepingdog wrote:
is it just me or does the game always seem the most balanced when terrans QQ? I mean, at the beginning zerg was really struggling and terrans were even reluctant to admit the horribly OP reaper harass. Then it came the huge protoss downfall and terrans just told us to L2P.
If we look at recent tournaments, racial balance has hardly ever been as great as it is now. Lol? Terrans told toss to Learn different styles of play. Not continue doing what you do every game. But it does not matter because QQ toss got what they wanted. (Hence I switched to toss because it is very easy, I just rofl stomp terrans all day).
EDIT: Obviously when a race is winning a lot because there are better players it is screaming OP to blizzard.
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Oh come on sleeping every one and their grandma knew that reapers were bullshit and the same goes for 30 sec warpgate research or 60 cant remember. The factory thing may have been a bit extreme but still something needed done about that shit. Though that was fun as hell fucking all those Zergs and Toss with speed reapers. BTW Terrans arent QQing more of a validation of having troubles eh I mean QQ is WTF zealots only 100 min jesus soooo op AJSFBNLAASDF bullshit this is more of a conversation than anything.
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On December 15 2011 23:44 NexCa wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 10:23 Xova wrote:
I play Terran as masters, THIS IS MY OPINION AND NOTHING MORE! Remember that. I feel like Terran is the hardest race to play, ALTHOUGH I have never really played the other races myself, it is incredibly easy to get rolled over by protoss and completely out macro'd in the mid to later stages of the game by a zerg.
My two cents on the table, I think people get frusterated with Terran when they game goes past 20 minutes because Terran is less forgiving than say protoss. So they switch to a new race. Again that is my opinion. I've to say, i am high Master Protoss at EU, and i freakn LOOOOOOVE to play Protoss, i also was Protoss at a decent lvl in Broodwar - but however, in my honest opinion, Terran and Zerg is so much easier to play in SC2, thanks to the advantage that you can macro during big fights while you have to keep an eye on your army as Protoss and Storm / Feedback / ForceField and Blinkmicro, where you normally have to macro, builing zealot/dt/stalker/ht and build whatever robounits or stargateunits AND chronoboost them. I am not saying that Zerg or Terran needs no skill, i am just saying that Terran and Zerg are more macro-friendly than Protoss.
I'd say that's definitely true.
When I was home over break it felt like every match I played (as Z) was against other Zergs or Toss. I'm tempted to try out another race or maybe just go full random for season 5, though I have to finish my finals first T.T
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On December 15 2011 21:18 multiversed wrote:
the level of self-delusion in this thread is astonishing. the more i see things like this in society the more i am convinced that people will literally tell themselves anything without regard to facts or the truth to justify anything that they do, or do poorly. perhaps the reason that you guys are platauing and race switching is because you are telling yourselves that you are good enough that your race is the thing that is limiting you, as apposed to developing a multifaceted style of gameplay that requires effort to achieve. the race shouldn't be handing you fee wins, that is why people get angry with terran players... they can be outplayed all game and still win. the same can be said for protoss. while zerg can beat himself countless times. it simply requires a much more refined and flawless effort to win as zerg.
if there is any style that you feel is overpowered, and you haven't played 1000 games trying to overcome it, then you are not as good as you feel you are. period. race is irrelevant. there are some balanace issues but if you get good enough you can overcome them until the highest levels of play.
anything to avoid hard work... right guys? carry on terran qq thread.
except for the zergtears (superfast techswitch in ZvP *cough*) i fullheartedly agree with you. this thread has so many posts where people blame their race for their own mistakes, instead of talking on topic people name facts why they think their race is underpowered. there's nothing a player can't overcome since the skill ceiling lies above utopia 
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Either trolling or just a friendly conversation on a forum about some recent troubles with the meta game? Either way this has been a fun forum but work calls and I'm off cya all on the ladder. =]
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On December 15 2011 23:37 FeyFey wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 22:17 Erasme wrote:On December 15 2011 10:40 statikg wrote:On December 15 2011 10:34 Xalorian wrote:On December 15 2011 09:35 secretary bird wrote:On December 15 2011 09:26 jaminski wrote:On December 14 2011 10:16 Kharnage wrote:
My mate doesn't enjoy terran anymore cause he feels they can be abusive and OP. He doesn't feel like his wins are because of his skill but because of his race. i feel exactly the same way His "mate" doesnt exist he made it up to whine about balance and I'm not so sure you ever played terran, the campaign maybe? Actually, two of my friends stopped SC2 completly (well they are playing 2v2 now, but yeah.) because they feeled like Terran was OP, and that it was hard to actually know if it was because of the race or because of their skills if they were winning. It does not automatically mean that Terran is really OP, it was just their view, but yeah, those people exists. Stop randomly bitching and calling people liar. Who quits the game because they feel that their race is OP? Geez bronzies...I would never quit if my race was OP. Really tho I'm sure these guys are all bronzies cuz thats where terran shines 3rax > everything Your race is balanced, yet you whine like a sissy. If your race was op, you would tell us to 'nydus moar'. Oups, that what you did. Seriously terran, I thought that you weren't like us (zergs) aka little whiners. I guess I was wrong. Play the game or quit it. If your feelings are hurted when someone tell you to 'kill yourself' then you're a girl. :p (me no sexist, dont hit kekeke) don't worry terrans don't wine, a terran that wines isn't a true terran and is considered a winning team joiner, means they will be soon zergs anyway. (or toss depending which is their worst matchup)
THen there isn't a lot of 'true terrans' :p
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On December 15 2011 21:18 multiversed wrote:
the level of self-delusion in this thread is astonishing. the more i see things like this in society the more i am convinced that people will literally tell themselves anything without regard to facts or the truth to justify anything that they do, or do poorly. perhaps the reason that you guys are platauing and race switching is because you are telling yourselves that you are good enough that your race is the thing that is limiting you, as apposed to developing a multifaceted style of gameplay that requires effort to achieve. the race shouldn't be handing you fee wins, that is why people get angry with terran players... they can be outplayed all game and still win. the same can be said for protoss. while zerg can beat himself countless times. it simply requires a much more refined and flawless effort to win as zerg.
if there is any style that you feel is overpowered, and you haven't played 1000 games trying to overcome it, then you are not as good as you feel you are. period. race is irrelevant. there are some balanace issues but if you get good enough you can overcome them until the highest levels of play.
anything to avoid hard work... right guys? carry on terran qq thread.
How you managed to undermine your own premise in under a paragraph is beyond me.
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This is why I hate sc2ranks. I am counted as Terran in part of those statistics but I have 2 wins and a total of 6 games played. In terms of ACTiVE players playing Terran, it is much smaller than that.
Still Protoss and Zerg come in this thread to insult Terran players. I hope you enjoy playing against each other and mirror matches because at his rate, that is all you will get.
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On December 15 2011 23:42 sleepingdog wrote:
is it just me or does the game always seem the most balanced when terrans QQ? I mean, at the beginning zerg was really struggling and terrans were even reluctant to admit the horribly OP reaper harass. Then it came the huge protoss downfall and terrans just told us to L2P.
If we look at recent tournaments, racial balance has hardly ever been as great as it is now.
lol.. There never was a huge protoss downfall. Protoss has been on top of the game since forever and only now toss are showing some weakness in PvZ. Protoss had trouble in the GSL for a brief period but was still dominating everything outside of Korea. HuK and NaNiwa both pulled out convincing tournament victories before the latest round of terran nerfs/protoss buffs. Most terrans outside of the top korean pros have been having extreme difficulty in the TvP matchup even during the supposed "protoss downfall". But the average protoss player was too content with simply pointing to GSL race distribution and crying IMBA terran while they practically get free ladder points all day because TvP is so convoluted and difficult.
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Let thy marine tears fall onto thyself. Six months ago terran was raping protoss with the same fckin build all day and finally protoss's figure out how to counter the mmm ball. Most terrans have not changed their build at all in this match up from the first season... Blue flamed hellions are amazing vs's zealots and no one uses them lol. Drops are still amazing in this match up and all of a sudden terrans are not mass dropping anymore, Why?... i have no fckin idea.
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i used to play terran but i switched and i realized that i am far better with both other races
i was in low dia with terran then got to middle-ish master witin 1 month playing protoss and now im also about that level with zerg
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On December 15 2011 20:03 darkness wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 18:55 dde wrote:
I have been waiting for a thread like this lol. Because everytime i won as terran in a tournament my opponent goes I won because i played terran. =(. I been mainly offracing as protoss on ladder and i got in top 16 GM :S. Proof you're logged on as that GM account or it didn't happen
why not check sc2ranks.com LOL
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