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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
On December 16 2011 01:18 Jaxtyk wrote: TvP right now is unplayable. Protoss will get chargelots to rape you or they can simply get a few hts, and with a few missed emps your army is gone because of storm. ??? This thread has some of the worst posts I have ever seen | ||
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WesleyLok
Canada99 Posts
Terran has to stutter step, harass constantly and in big engagements, its really difficult to control it properly due to all the splitting and multiple abilities you have to use. For example, when I played terran vs zerg I would have to stim, emp infesters and split up my marines, while seiging up tanks all at once. Lets say I emp properly, but while hitting tab to try to switch to marine/mauraders to stim, I accidentally hit stim while on the tank abilities and e while on marine abilities ( I have to tab 4 times since medivacs, tanks and ghosts all have abilities). A tiny mistake like that will instantly end the game for me while the zerg just a-move through my army with banelings/lings. Against protoss, its much the same except I must properly emp the templar and also constantly stutterstep backwards. | ||
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najo
United States75 Posts
On December 16 2011 01:30 WesleyLok wrote: I switched from terran, because it's just way too hard. The amount of micro and effort you have to put into playing terran is just ridiculous compared to playing a race like protoss and zerg. Terran has to stutter step, harass constantly and in big engagements, its really difficult to control it properly due to all the splitting and multiple abilities you have to use. For example, when I played terran vs zerg I would have to stim, emp infesters and split up my marines, while seiging up tanks all at once. Lets say I emp properly, but while hitting tab to try to switch to marine/mauraders to stim, I accidentally hit stim while on the tank abilities and e while on marine abilities ( I have to tab 4 times since medivacs, tanks and ghosts all have abilities). A tiny mistake like that will instantly end the game for me while the zerg just a-move through my army with banelings/lings. Against protoss, its much the same except I must properly emp the templar and also constantly stutterstep backwards. That's why you need to have separate control groups :/ | ||
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YipMan
372 Posts
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On December 16 2011 01:30 WesleyLok wrote: I switched from terran, because it's just way too hard. The amount of micro and effort you have to put into playing terran is just ridiculous compared to playing a race like protoss and zerg. Terran has to stutter step, harass constantly and in big engagements, its really difficult to control it properly due to all the splitting and multiple abilities you have to use. For example, when I played terran vs zerg I would have to stim, emp infesters and split up my marines, while seiging up tanks all at once. Lets say I emp properly, but while hitting tab to try to switch to marine/mauraders to stim, I accidentally hit stim while on the tank abilities and e while on marine abilities ( I have to tab 4 times since medivacs, tanks and ghosts all have abilities). A tiny mistake like that will instantly end the game for me while the zerg just a-move through my army with banelings/lings. Against protoss, its much the same except I must properly emp the templar and also constantly stutterstep backwards. Terran is hard yes. But to make a convincing argument you cannot form contradictions within your statements. A. On stim tabbing, Tanks do not have a "T" ability. Siege is "E" and "D" B. While "E"MP shares the hotkeys with Si"E"ge mode share the same hotkeys, You should really put tanks and your bio on a different set of control groups | ||
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petro1987
Brazil374 Posts
On December 16 2011 01:33 YipMan wrote: Mmmmh, this balance whining makes me wanna go ladder ^_^ Haha. Go, but you won't find terran players. I hope you like mirror and PvZ. | ||
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On December 16 2011 01:23 E.H Eager wrote: It's not unplayable, but it's just difficult. And I don't know why it's unplayable right now; HT and chargelots have always been in the game just like they are (HT were even nerfed), why is it unplayable now and not before? Because Protoss players have realized that they don't need 4+ bases to get HT/chargelot/colossus. Now they get it at 2-3 bases and it's impossible for Terran to match that. You will always be behind in some way whether it be not enough vikings, no ghost tech, or simply not enough MMM. If you do manage to build up a decent composition, you will always be trailing in upgrades, tech and econ. | ||
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YipMan
372 Posts
On December 16 2011 01:35 petro1987 wrote: Haha. Go, but you won't find terran players. I hope you like mirror and PvZ. I made 11 games this morning and got 2 terrans out of them, one whining and asking me why he cant win anymore, the other one saying hes playing zerg originally but that he let his friend play on his account and forgot to change back. still laughing about it... | ||
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Nightshake
France412 Posts
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Cereb
Denmark3388 Posts
And also! There has always been less Terrans in Diamond and Master league! No matter how much they were winning at one point, they were the race with least players in those 2 league, but they were very well representated at the very top of the ladder (NA, EU, ASIA) Nothing has changed!! This thread has just become an excuse for bad players when they can't handle their losses to come and complain about something other than their own lack of ability. And I don't mean that in an offensive way! Everyone can potentially do that when they lose! Heck, I'll even admit to doing it myself way too much! I'm trying hard not to! But man, I would just wish people would atleast try to restrict themselves. And Terran's still has I higher winrate vs Zergs right now! Terrans have litterally only been losing to toss for a ridiculously short while as for right now, so please! Calm down!! | ||
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Nightshake
France412 Posts
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YipMan
372 Posts
On December 16 2011 01:45 Nightshake wrote: Oh and i just wanted to say. Terran is fucking good to play because it requires insane amount of micro and macro. And even if it's hard to win with this race (I think it's the hardest to play), you feel really good when you win. Yea, playing Z or P is like playing Pony Rancher in comparison! LOL@u | ||
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maddogawl
United States63 Posts
Also the hate Terran gets on the ladder in my opinion is unjustified. | ||
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Rampoon
United Kingdom166 Posts
On December 16 2011 01:48 maddogawl wrote: This makes me feel much better hearing other Terrans with the same issues I had playing the game. I worked my way up from Gold to Masters over the first 3 seasons. It gets to the point where you just feel like you can't beat protoss unless you do economic damage or have godly micro. I quit playing for the last season, and only jumped in team games and some smurfing as zerg even after playing 1500 games as Terran on ladder :/ Also the hate Terran gets on the ladder in my opinion is unjustified. Of course it's unjustified....! It's a tie over from when Terran early game was a bit too strong and Protoss/Zerg players still use it as an emotional crutch to help them when they lose because their poor little egos cannot cope with not winning. Frankly its extremely boring that playing T still gets that reaction from a lot of people, in the game or out of it. | ||
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petro1987
Brazil374 Posts
On December 16 2011 01:44 Cereb wrote: Lol! For the first time in litterally all of SC2 lifetime, Terran aren't having a higher win/loss percentage than the other races in tournaments and what has it been? Like 2 weeks since we learned that and already we have a thread where Terrans come together and cry that their race is to hard to play :/ And also! There has always been less Terrans in Diamond and Master league! No matter how much they were winning at one point, they were the race with least players in those 2 league, but they were very well representated at the very top of the ladder (NA, EU, ASIA) Nothing has changed!! This thread has just become an excuse for bad players when they can't handle their losses to come and complain about something other than their own lack of ability. And I don't mean that in an offensive way! Everyone can potentially do that when they lose! Heck, I'll even admit to doing it myself way too much! I'm trying hard not to! But man, I would just wish people would atleast try to restrict themselves. And Terran's still has I higher winrate vs Zergs right now! Terrans have litterally only been losing to toss for a ridiculously short while as for right now, so please! Calm down!! Posts like this make me lose the faith in mankind a little more. Who the hell here is talking about TLPD winrates or GSL winrates dude? We are talking about LADDER, more precisely about gold-masters ladder. What Terran having a good winning percentage vs Zerg in TLPD has anything to do with ladder? Nobody here is attributing their losses to the fact that Terran is harder to play. They are just explaining why there are way less Terran players in the gold-master ladder. Is that so hard to grasp? | ||
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xUnSeEnx
United States183 Posts
On December 16 2011 01:26 dde wrote: I did use blue flames before its damage got nerfed by 5. I stopped using them because charge lots just ignore them like nothing.... and its not hard as protoss to split their zealots and a move into terran mech. Mech is just way too weak to immortal play or blink stalkers harassment. (in top level i mean) mech is not viable option vs protoss. lawls you mean 10? EDIT: Just to lawls a little bit, I played a protoss yesterday and outplayed him and he screamed its because terran is an imba race ROFLFLFLFLFLFLFLLFFL. Little does he know, he is just aweful, and blizzard is handing his race wins. | ||
Poopi
France12992 Posts
On December 16 2011 01:44 Cereb wrote: Lol! For the first time in litterally all of SC2 lifetime, Terran aren't having a higher win/loss percentage than the other races in tournaments and what has it been? Like 2 weeks since we learned that and already we have a thread where Terrans come together and cry that their race is to hard to play :/ And also! There has always been less Terrans in Diamond and Master league! No matter how much they were winning at one point, they were the race with least players in those 2 league, but they were very well representated at the very top of the ladder (NA, EU, ASIA) Nothing has changed!! This thread has just become an excuse for bad players when they can't handle their losses to come and complain about something other than their own lack of ability. And I don't mean that in an offensive way! Everyone can potentially do that when they lose! Heck, I'll even admit to doing it myself way too much! I'm trying hard not to! But man, I would just wish people would atleast try to restrict themselves. And Terran's still has I higher winrate vs Zergs right now! Terrans have litterally only been losing to toss for a ridiculously short while as for right now, so please! Calm down!! Lol you do know that it has been months that no foreigner terran has ever won something? At the times of the 1-1-1, when protoss diamond/master were complaining that terran was imba watching GSL, SaSe, ToD and the like raped every terran, except that PvZ was like 40% winrate. I'm pretty sure that the terrans complaining now that they can't win in macro TvP were struggling back then too, but didn't want to say it because everyone was screaming T op. | ||
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gosuMalicE
Canada676 Posts
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ishboh
United States954 Posts
On December 16 2011 01:44 Cereb wrote: Lol! For the first time in litterally all of SC2 lifetime, Terran aren't having a higher win/loss percentage than the other races in tournaments and what has it been? Like 2 weeks since we learned that and already we have a thread where Terrans come together and cry that their race is to hard to play :/ this is nothing new. all races cry all the time. | ||
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dde
Canada796 Posts
On December 16 2011 02:03 xUnSeEnx wrote: lawls you mean 10? EDIT: Just to lawls a little bit, I played a protoss yesterday and outplayed him and he screamed its because terran is an imba race ROFLFLFLFLFLFLFLLFFL. Little does he know, he is just aweful, and blizzard is handing his race wins. blue flame dmg got nerfed by 5 i believe not 10. correct me if im wrong. | ||
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