NaNi vs NesTea (SPOILERS) - Page 34

On December 13 2011 23:50 mEatBucket wrote:
I totally understand Nani and would probably do the same, myself I'd rather go out and get drunk rather than play useless games at that point.

On December 13 2011 23:42 Treziel wrote:


The total blind fanboy bias of anyone that defends these kind of actions is the only thing that is fucking disgusting here, mate. Just so you know, I'd say the same if we were talking about a British (my nationality) player like DeMuslim or BlinG had done this. Maybe open up your eyes and see past your nationalism.

On December 13 2011 23:45 zidaneshead wrote:


Wise words. Maybe we shouldn't be singling out Naniwa, maybe this is more of a problem of how a lot of foreign players approach e-sports in general, as "games", because clearly other examples of players rage-quitting, giving up or throwing games have been cited here. I think everyone can agree that we ultimately want SC2 to have the notoriety of a professional sports, we want MLG to be the next NFL (maybe not right away, but eventually). Yet we still want to treat them as "games", and when we don't take what we do seriously we tend to not put max effort into them, and because of that results suffer.

Obviously I'm not trying to insinuate that foreigners are "lazy" obviously there's a lot of them out there that are practicing their asses off and working hard to get better, but I just think it's more of a mentality issue that these kinds of occurrences are common or considered not a big deal.

Part of the reason why mainstream sports are mainstream is because the league and the owners and the players respect the fan and the fact that it's their money that gives them the power to do what they love and get paid for it, and they make sure that the fans are rewarded for that. I think a lot of the Koreans understand that as well.

On December 13 2011 23:55 Giriath wrote:

It's up to GOM to provide us with entertaining matches. Not the players.

On December 13 2011 23:56 Alou wrote:
Definitely wished he stayed and played. No excuse for not giving 100% all the time at that level in my opinion. :/

On December 13 2011 23:58 CaptainTwig wrote:
http://twitter.com/#!/oGsMC

possible someone could trans this please? l can only assume these long tweets are about this.

On December 13 2011 23:55 Giriath wrote:


I don't think you'd enjoy a tournament where the pro players don't have anything to win, especially if they were all upset and not wanting to play; they wouldn't be good matches.

It's up to GOM to provide us with entertaining matches. Not the players.

On December 13 2011 23:53 Weemoed wrote:


> Thinking nationalism is retarded.



This.

On December 13 2011 23:46 colate wrote:



^ This pretty much sums up my opinion.
Stop putting words into my mouth, TheKefka. I didn't mention anything about koreans being more moral beings than the foreigners. My focal point was, and still is, that NaNiwa is one of our front runners of the foreigner scene. Who doesn't want more foreigners in the korean teamhouses? Who doesn't want the foreigners to be able to compete with the koreans - by living there and competing in the GSL? NaNiwa isn't giving the foreigner scene the exposure they need.

If NaNiwa actually won against the 3 times GSL champion Nestea on his turf. In front of the koreans. Now that would make an impact in the korean scene.

On December 13 2011 23:56 Technique wrote:

That game will do more for him then a couple hours of ''useless'' laddering.

On December 13 2011 23:58 grobo wrote:
From his interview with TL after the games:

"People are just hating because it's me who did it."
-Naniwa

Sooo, soo true.

On December 14 2011 00:00 Squeegy wrote:


It is massive douchebaggery from Naniwa actually because he knew Nestea wanted a rematch. He knew there was a rivalry going on. He had taunted Nestea in the interviews. And now it was time for a rematch. But Naniwa lacked the balls because he was getting owned left and right and he had everything to lose by being defeated by Nestea. Are people blowing this out of proportion? Yes. Is Naniwa a douchebag? Yes. Are you a douchebag if you say you stand by his actions? Yes.

The game was very meaningful.

On December 13 2011 23:26 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
The people who bought the HD Pass knew the format of the tournament and knew that it allowed for inconsequential games. Without the incentive of winning a tournament, progamers should not try to win. No one is good enough to waste their best effort on inconsequential games, especially with how many major tournaments there are nowadays. Whatever the best strategy Naniwa had in mind for the game, he should not use it. What irrational people want and expect is for the players to put on a false show of a competition, where they both seem to be trying enough for viewers to successfully suspend their disbelief. Such people don't constitute a significant enough part of the community to justify this huge reaction.