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Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
November 27 2011 20:40 GMT
#241
it boils down to different aspects of how you view elite. seals probably have the best equipment and teamwork. i do think there are some better trained or disciplined special forces out there though.
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SinisterR
Profile Joined October 2011
Ireland57 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 20:49:52
November 27 2011 20:49 GMT
#242
The Irish Rangers.

EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Ranger_Wing
HellRoxYa
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1614 Posts
November 27 2011 20:50 GMT
#243
On November 28 2011 04:26 JiYan wrote:
i used to think that the best would probably be some unknown elite group we've never heard of. But then, why wouldn't they be the ones to take out Osama bin Laden? Why would the US send their 2nd/3rd best team to go get the #1 wanted man in the world. Its worth noting though that the team six SEALs were aided by 'various CIA agents' according to sources. You might be able to say those various cia agents are your secret group and the seal team is just a 'brand name'. doubt it though


That the team exists isn't a secret, but what they do, who they are, where they train etc is secret to various degrees.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 27 2011 20:53 GMT
#244
Each, special forces has its specialty, can't really compare um.
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Skrammen
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway195 Posts
November 27 2011 20:55 GMT
#245
On November 27 2011 20:29 benshin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 20:09 -Doji- wrote:
The belgian army obviously! As it is pretty much invisible to start with...


well played

Anyways, i love this special forces stuff. And in my opinion theres no such thing as THE best. It's conditianal.
Scandinavians and russians special forces rock in artic warfare, ST6 trains with swedish SF to get the best artic training. Norways FSK trains with SAS and GIGN in counter terror scenarios and so on. But if I was forced to pick one dude to watch my side, I would go for this Gurkha. He fought off 30 talibans alone! He a one man F***ing army.

Read more about my Gurkha hero here.

Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/mar/25/gurkha-honoured-taliban-insurgents



Well, nobody probably know about norwegian spec ops, since they are pretty small and have no big hollywood movies :p

But they are good at what they do, MJK has had success in afghanistan FSK/HJK has seen quite a lot of action, too. Norway's been involved in most major conflict since the 80's.

But the commandoes during WW2 were pretty badass too, things like the NOR.I.C. 1 did lots of sabotage and shit, without any backup of any kind, and no radio contact. Only a few guys, primitive equipment and a mission. Balls of steel.
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ZiegFeld
Profile Joined April 2011
351 Posts
November 27 2011 21:00 GMT
#246
Mother fucking boy scouts.
tetrismaan
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark302 Posts
November 27 2011 21:01 GMT
#247
Danish frogmen and hunter corps.
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LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
November 27 2011 21:01 GMT
#248
On November 28 2011 05:50 HellRoxYa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 04:26 JiYan wrote:
i used to think that the best would probably be some unknown elite group we've never heard of. But then, why wouldn't they be the ones to take out Osama bin Laden? Why would the US send their 2nd/3rd best team to go get the #1 wanted man in the world. Its worth noting though that the team six SEALs were aided by 'various CIA agents' according to sources. You might be able to say those various cia agents are your secret group and the seal team is just a 'brand name'. doubt it though


That the team exists isn't a secret, but what they do, who they are, where they train etc is secret to various degrees.

Seal Team 6 might not even be an actual unit, but instead just be a cover for the various special forces units that the US commands.

I feel like a crazy man.
eoLithic
Profile Joined July 2010
Norway221 Posts
November 27 2011 21:02 GMT
#249
On November 27 2011 17:40 TheKefka wrote:
I assume that a US unit like the SEALS have the upper hand on pretty much everyone because pretty much any new technology that comes around sees its first use in this environment if it can be of use.

I don't know much about others but if I would have to say someone from a pure "bad-ass" point of view I would say the Israeli Defense Forces because they developed Krav Maga.
Here's a video about it from human weapon episodes.


What on earth are you on about? Doubt USA is significantly "ahead" in the technology department.

If any country would have the better developed forces, Russia is pretty much the non-brainer, without even trying to involve myself in the discussion. Find it quite the pointless topic, since this can not be verified, like watching deadliest warrior, fucking pointless.(best program ever though)

Russia has, what? 10 times the manpower than the USA and an army of like 20.000.000 soldiers including reserves. Pretty sure they would have the better developed forces, if any.

Again, can be discussed, but no point offering anything else than an opinion since there is no way of putting it to the test.
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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 21:20:25
November 27 2011 21:16 GMT
#250
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Long_Tan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Binh_Ba
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hat_Dich
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Binh_Ba
If any unit in the world is 'most elite', it's an Australian one
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
miky_ardiente
Profile Joined May 2010
Mexico387 Posts
November 27 2011 21:23 GMT
#251
On November 28 2011 06:00 ZiegFeld wrote:
Mother fucking boy scouts.


indeed

User was warned for this post
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ZorBa.G
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia279 Posts
November 27 2011 21:27 GMT
#252
I think you guys should check out the SAS from Australia. Enough research and you'll find out it's quiet amazing what they have achieved with the odds stacked up against them.

For me, it's not about the training the recieve. No amount of "training" is really going to tell you what specific thing to do when your life is on the line. It will help of course, but yeah... check out the Australian SAS.
Polemos
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States160 Posts
November 27 2011 21:28 GMT
#253
I'd recommend the show 'Surviving The Cut' - really interesting if you're interested in the stuff

I'd go with marine recon or parajumper medics o.o
It is better to be hated for who you are then loved for who you are not.
Bartuc
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands629 Posts
November 27 2011 21:30 GMT
#254
Probably not the most elite special ops force, but I found this an interesting read:

http://askakorean.blogspot.com/2011/03/ask-korean-news-north-korean-special.html
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feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 21:50:18
November 27 2011 21:49 GMT
#255
On November 28 2011 06:02 eoLithic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 17:40 TheKefka wrote:
I assume that a US unit like the SEALS have the upper hand on pretty much everyone because pretty much any new technology that comes around sees its first use in this environment if it can be of use.

I don't know much about others but if I would have to say someone from a pure "bad-ass" point of view I would say the Israeli Defense Forces because they developed Krav Maga.
Here's a video about it from human weapon episodes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTE7tjXKVc8


What on earth are you on about? Doubt USA is significantly "ahead" in the technology department.

If any country would have the better developed forces, Russia is pretty much the non-brainer, without even trying to involve myself in the discussion. Find it quite the pointless topic, since this can not be verified, like watching deadliest warrior, fucking pointless.(best program ever though)

Russia has, what? 10 times the manpower than the USA and an army of like 20.000.000 soldiers including reserves. Pretty sure they would have the better developed forces, if any.

Again, can be discussed, but no point offering anything else than an opinion since there is no way of putting it to the test.

Um Russia has an 2,000,000 armed forces members including reserves. The US has about 3,000,000 including reserves.

Also Defense Spending by Country in Billions[image loading]
The US spends almost as much as the rest of the world COMBINED

Pretty clear that if any country has a technological at advantage it is going to be the US.

Also the US has about twice the population of Russia. I hope you were joking, but somehow I think you were serious.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6261 Posts
November 27 2011 21:54 GMT
#256
On November 28 2011 06:49 feanor1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 06:02 eoLithic wrote:
On November 27 2011 17:40 TheKefka wrote:
I assume that a US unit like the SEALS have the upper hand on pretty much everyone because pretty much any new technology that comes around sees its first use in this environment if it can be of use.

I don't know much about others but if I would have to say someone from a pure "bad-ass" point of view I would say the Israeli Defense Forces because they developed Krav Maga.
Here's a video about it from human weapon episodes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTE7tjXKVc8


What on earth are you on about? Doubt USA is significantly "ahead" in the technology department.

If any country would have the better developed forces, Russia is pretty much the non-brainer, without even trying to involve myself in the discussion. Find it quite the pointless topic, since this can not be verified, like watching deadliest warrior, fucking pointless.(best program ever though)

Russia has, what? 10 times the manpower than the USA and an army of like 20.000.000 soldiers including reserves. Pretty sure they would have the better developed forces, if any.

Again, can be discussed, but no point offering anything else than an opinion since there is no way of putting it to the test.

Um Russia has an 2,000,000 armed forces members including reserves. The US has about 3,000,000 including reserves.

Also Defense Spending by Country in Billions[image loading]
The US spends almost as much as the rest of the world COMBINED

Pretty clear that if any country has a technological at advantage it is going to be the US.

Also the US has about twice the population of Russia. I hope you were joking, but somehow I think you were serious.


It's not like army size matters for technology anyway, you can have a small and very advanced army.
Bubulefou
Profile Joined February 2011
France29 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 22:16:08
November 27 2011 22:13 GMT
#257
On November 28 2011 04:42 backtoback wrote:
how does the GIGN do?

GIGN are not special forces. They are part of the police.

French special forces are these (french link, sorry) : http://le.cos.free.fr/fr.htm
wikipedia link : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commandement_des_Opérations_Spéciales
As you can see they are quite unknowned, as their work.
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
November 27 2011 22:31 GMT
#258
For urban missions I think it's BOPE, and on the countryside it's SAS.
I'm not really sure how we're comparing though, as the SAS for instance is quite large. Are we comparing the top notch of each special forces, or some kind of average of the entire thing?
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ckei
Profile Joined July 2009
Finland37 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 23:04:47
November 27 2011 22:58 GMT
#259

But the commandoes during WW2 were pretty badass too, things like the NOR.I.C. 1 did lots of sabotage and shit, without any backup of any kind, and no radio contact. Only a few guys, primitive equipment and a mission. Balls of steel.

I think Ive seen a movie about Max Manus.. cant remember the name,but was a really good movie nontheless
Edit: the Movie title is Man of War(Max Manus)
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
November 27 2011 23:27 GMT
#260
it's hard to say nowadays because a lot of special operating forces do joint training exercises, so they end up teaching each other techniques etc. in terms of technology, US is definitely ahead (night vision contacts, r u srs?). it's hard to say which is the best of the U.S. though (delta, seal team 6, CIA SAD etc).
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