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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
November 17 2011 15:27 GMT
#21
The article really has a ridiculous headline, but counting pizza as vegetables in a balanced meal because it has a little bit of tomato sauce is still ridiculous and makes no sense at all.
meadbert
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States681 Posts
November 17 2011 15:30 GMT
#22
So in America, almost no one has vegetables in addition to their pizza. You don't have broccoli with your pizza. You might put some vegetables on as toppings, but you almost never see a side of veggies, except for occasionally a salad.

The law would have forced schools to serve vegies with pizza. Instead they are exempting pizza.

Basically this debate has less to do with whether pizza is a vegetable than it has to do with to what degree states or washington should be controlling what goes in school lunches.

Generally the North East and West Coast eat healthier diets (and vote for democrats) while the South in particular eats less healthy diets and vote republican, so what appears to be a partisan show down is more of a regional show down.

The southerners want the right to feed their children like southerners even if it is a little unhealthy.
Traeon
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria366 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 15:32:01
November 17 2011 15:30 GMT
#23
There's a serious issue underlying (though definitely not news), about business interests buying congressional legislature through lobbying, but that doesn't make the headline in this case.


This.

The background is that school lunches were supposed to have vegetables in them for health reasons, manufacturer's of frozen pizza feared loss of profits and successfully lobbied to make pizza count as vegetables.

(LOL at people rationalizing this)
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15357 Posts
November 17 2011 15:30 GMT
#24
I used to work in the US a could of years ago. When I asked if we could not go for something healthy instead of the usual grill and fries my coworkers suggested pizza. True story. Congress is just behind.
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pettter
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1032 Posts
November 17 2011 15:31 GMT
#25
The bill also would allow tomato paste on pizzas to be counted as a vegetable, as it is now. USDA had wanted to prevent that.


That would seem to be the crux of the bill.

To be quite honest, properly made tomato sauce is pretty healthy, and mostly consists of tomato.. Much of what is served on top of pizzas is made out of ridiculous amounts of sugar and various other additives, with relatively little tomato, and very very much not part of a healthy meal.

To me this screams of trying to save as much as possible on food, by using substandard ingredients and covering it up by adding sugar, fat and salt, etc.
Agathon
Profile Joined February 2011
France1505 Posts
November 17 2011 15:31 GMT
#26
On November 18 2011 00:24 PassiveAce wrote:
uhhhh. wat. pizza is a meal created out of many ingredients. Its like saying sushi is a meat.


Sushi is a vegetable too, there is rice in it :D

Sashimi must be water i think, because fishes live in water :D
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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
November 17 2011 15:32 GMT
#27
On November 18 2011 00:21 Serejai wrote:
This is completely false and misleading.

Pizza is not a vegetable.

What this new bill says is that two tablespoons of tomato paste is considered a vegetable. Currently it takes half a cup of tomato paste to count as a vegetable, which pizzas don't have.


Yeah, but nobody wants to read an article titled "Congress declares 2 tablespoons of tomato paste qualifies as a vegetable!"
lurked
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada918 Posts
November 17 2011 15:32 GMT
#28
If kids are wrong, don't tell them, just change the law(and the rules of the universe, while we're at it) so they're right.

But seriously?

I'm kind of disappointed by this... I mean, does that mean that Cheeze is now a vegetable? And Pepperoni?

If I ask for a vegetarian pizza in a restaurant, will they now tell me: All our pizzas are vegetarian now, you ignorant, what kind of pizza do you want?

...

Anyway, I guess I'll have a really easier time eating my 5 daily portions of vegetables, only need to eat 2-3pizza slices...

I mean, come on... -_-
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Xalorian
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada433 Posts
November 17 2011 15:33 GMT
#29
On November 18 2011 00:24 ishboh wrote:
pizza gets a bad rap. its really not THAT unhealthy (depending what you put on it). it does have some vegetables on it sometimes.

granted it itself is not a vegetable.


And... you do understand that pizza and tomato sauce in pizza are full of salt, wich is pretty much the worst thing ever for your health and weight? Just saying...

And btw, even frozen pizza will now be counted as a serving of vegetables. You do understand how ridiculous this is, right?
heroofcanton
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States167 Posts
November 17 2011 15:34 GMT
#30
This is actually pretty well unprecedented. Ronald Reagan already decided that ketchup was a vegetable. This is a natural progression which will culminate in the KFC doubledown sandwich being declared a fruit, and that eating 3-4 serving a day can prevent high blood pressure.
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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
November 17 2011 15:34 GMT
#31
The amount of fats and cheese on pizza they serve in public school contradicts its vegetable classification. Unless the small amount of tomato sauce is qualifies as a healthy serving.
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CursedRich
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom737 Posts
November 17 2011 15:35 GMT
#32
this is the least of our american cousins problems.....lol
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bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
November 17 2011 15:35 GMT
#33
"This agreement ensures that nutrient-rich vegetables such as potatoes, corn and peas will remain part of a balanced, healthy diet in federally funded school meals and recognizes the significant amounts of potassium, fiber and vitamins A and C provided by tomato paste, ensuring that students may continue to enjoy healthy meals such as pizza and pasta," said Kraig Naasz, president of the American Frozen Food Institute.

Facepalming so hard right now.

How do I get a job as a lobbyist?
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two.watup
Profile Joined March 2011
United States371 Posts
November 17 2011 15:36 GMT
#34
Who gives a shit?

How does this affect anyone in this thread enough to have any opinion on it?
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
November 17 2011 15:36 GMT
#35
Can a mod please just change title to read "US Congress declares pizza has a serving of vegetables"? What is the point of even having a thread if half of the posts are going to be based on a false premise... Any worthwhile discussion about lobbying influence or nutrition gets drowned out by 1000 posts of "lol they said pizza is a vegetable?"
Tppz!
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1449 Posts
November 17 2011 15:37 GMT
#36
America.. F*ck yeah!


Who are these ppl that declare such stuff? They cant be intelligent at all O.o How is it even possible that this is something politicians talk about?
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
November 17 2011 15:38 GMT
#37
Well, at least we got this settled instead of the other issues effecting the country. This was clearly a top priority.
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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
November 17 2011 15:39 GMT
#38
On November 18 2011 00:36 two.watup wrote:
Who gives a shit?

How does this affect anyone in this thread enough to have any opinion on it?


Are you serious? This effects every American...
Nothingtosay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States875 Posts
November 17 2011 15:40 GMT
#39
For all the people wondering congress did this because the companies that provide school meals want them to. Tomato paste is much cheaper than actually serving vegetables that have to remain edible. It all about money they aren't stupid just greedy and bought.
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Agathon
Profile Joined February 2011
France1505 Posts
November 17 2011 15:40 GMT
#40
On November 18 2011 00:36 two.watup wrote:
Who gives a shit?

How does this affect anyone in this thread enough to have any opinion on it?


It affect us because It's sooooo funny
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