EPTWhat's the real counter of Archon? - Page 2
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
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GhostFall
United States830 Posts
making combat units. Really. thats the counter. | ||
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aphorism
United States226 Posts
 In all seriousness, though, the only time i've seen archons not used as a way to recycle high templar is in (I believe the Inca v. Nestea in GSL May finals) a gateway-unit + DT/archon rush, and I vaguely remember there being a strategy article about a Chargelot-Immortal-Archon in PvP. Also, watching a protoss sneak 2 DTs into a ball of banelings and morph them into an archon is really cool. | ||
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
On July 01 2011 08:11 godemperor wrote: Archons are terrible, even zergling can beat them pretty well. As terran EMP + almost anything is great, as zerg pure roaches crushes archons. The in thing for top Korean tosses in PvT is chargelot/blink/archon/sentry adding HT when possible. So not terrible! | ||
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
They have no counter because everything is good against them. With the smartcasting of SC2, the focus is purely on the templar, whereas the Archon is about as useful as the burrow skill for infestors, or the cloak for ghosts. | ||
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Mafs
Canada458 Posts
On July 01 2011 08:11 godemperor wrote: Archons are terrible, even zergling can beat them pretty well. As terran EMP + almost anything is great, as zerg pure roaches crushes archons. Unforunatly thats 1 or 2 archons in small numbers. Once both sides are maxed the splash damage, tanking ability and huge single target damage makes them rediculously overpowered v Z. Considering i was maxed on roach hydra and the guy had stalker zealot archon and beat my army with his 130 food army doesnt really make sense to me. | ||
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On July 01 2011 08:29 Mafs wrote: Unforunatly thats 1 or 2 archons in small numbers. Once both sides are maxed the splash damage, tanking ability and huge single target damage makes them rediculously overpowered v Z. Considering i was maxed on roach hydra and the guy had stalker zealot archon and beat my army with his 130 food army doesnt really make sense to me. League and replay in that case please. It sounds like he was 3-3-3 and you were 0-0. Personally I consider them as big zealots in PvZ. A glorified meatshield basically, that's supposed to keep the enemy away from you stalkers, potential collosi, immortals etc. | ||
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Vod.kaholic
United States1052 Posts
On July 01 2011 08:26 kNyTTyM wrote: Easier to think about what isn't the counter. Zerglings, zealots, high templar, vikings, reaper, hellion, phoenix, corrupter. Everything else works just fine. Nothing is that amazing against it and none of these are bad against it. oh ya banelings is another non counter Essentially this. Thors were a hardcounter before the strike cannon energy change, which makes them kind of a moot point vs archons now because archons could imply HT capability and therefore feedback. Micro and units-that-can-shoot-and-dont-instantly-die-to-archons are the "counters" to archons. | ||
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Rabbitmaster
1357 Posts
Terran: Ghosts/Battle cruisers Zerg: Brood lords/Infestors (Neural parasite) Is what i can think of off the top of my head. But i recommend you don't view units as counters to certain other units. Each unit has a time and place to be useful. | ||
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DooMDash
United States1015 Posts
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Laggy
United States385 Posts
Any who yeah anything that can slow it down remove it's shields or micro away while attacking will normally do well against an Archon. Another way to counter it is by not even letting them get templars to make it just drop him and snipe the building! | ||
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sjschmidt93
United States2518 Posts
For Zerg, everything but mutas. Roaches are great and fungal does well as they have low range. | ||
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Makura
United States317 Posts
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mikyaJ
1834 Posts
On July 01 2011 08:10 Trowabarton756 wrote: ....apparently you guys really suck at reading the damn OP @OP: THe reason why archons suck against mutas is because just like BW once zergs learned how to muta micro they can dance against archons all day long. Archons are more a big beefy unit that is more for banelings/mass zergling You misread it too I guess. He's saying, according to Blizzard and LP Archons are ONLY strong vs. Mutas, and he is saying he disagrees/asking why they say that. That's one part though, the other part is what counters them. | ||
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Boraz
United States361 Posts
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gaizka
United States991 Posts
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Ares[Effort]
DEMACIA6550 Posts
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