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I saw in stream any protoss player him using Archon and I was curious about one thing!
What's the real counter of Archon?
I did go see in blizzard site the page of protoss's units and there I saw that Archon is strong against just Muta and weak against Ultra / Immortal / Marauder. Here it's little normal, but I did other question: If Archon is strong just muta, why toss makes Archon?
I felt little deceived about blizzard, so I did go see the Liquidpedia and there was the same thing. But in Game I don't feel that Archon is just Strong against muta.
What you think?
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You're thinking too black and white man. But ghosts are the strongest counter to archons, cost for cost.
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Read liquipedia for psionic units:
Units with Bonus Damage Against Psionic
None.
Protoss makes archons 'cause they have good DPS with AoE, they "recycle" HT in a fight, and they have no counter.
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Actually i think he's asking for what the archon is good against, not whats good against the archon. Many people use it as a meat shield, to tank damage, negate maurader slow and crush forcefields.
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Neural Parasite is also quite good against archons, considering that they have to stand quite in the front, and NP got a huge range.
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On July 01 2011 08:08 beachbeachy wrote: You're thinking too black and white man. But ghosts are the strongest counter to archons, cost for cost.
On July 01 2011 08:07 TW_Covenant wrote: ghosts..
....apparently you guys really suck at reading the damn OP
@OP:
THe reason why archons suck against mutas is because just like BW once zergs learned how to muta micro they can dance against archons all day long. Archons are more a big beefy unit that is more for banelings/mass zergling
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Archons are terrible, even zergling can beat them pretty well.
As terran EMP + almost anything is great, as zerg pure roaches crushes archons.
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On July 01 2011 08:10 Trowabarton756 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 08:08 beachbeachy wrote: You're thinking too black and white man. But ghosts are the strongest counter to archons, cost for cost. ....apparently you guys really suck at reading the damn OP @OP: THe reason why archons suck against mutas is because just like BW once zergs learned how to muta micro they can dance against archons all day long. Archons are more a big beefy unit that is more for banelings/mass zergling
well the title is incredibly misleading then.
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In true, want know if information of units don't isn't little wrong?
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There isn't too much content in here, and really the whole concept of "counters" is very misleading, especially in the current state of the game.
But roaches are very cost effective against archons, and storm isn't as powerful against roaches as other units.
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Well the general idea is that Archons are good against biological units, so their role certainly isnt limited to just mutalisks.
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Ghosts, Roaches, Hydras, BCs (lol), Carriers (lol), Voidrays
Oh yeah, voidrays, except pvp usually doesn't go that long
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Archons are usually the marginally better alternative between a practically instant meat shield and two storms one minute later.
I don't think they do especially well vs mutas, or even that that's something blizzard were intending. Maybe the information is outdated? Archons hard countered mutas in broodwar.
I think strategies focused around the archon primarily are bad in all circumstances though.
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Mutas, clumped together, can die easily to splash damage if they get hit...and well, Archon has splash damage...but attack has low range, so its hard to hit mutas...
And the counter to Archons are EMP cause their have lots of shield- and few hitpoints. the normal marauder/marine concusiveshell micro should work really good too...and dont forget (cloaked) Banshees :p
Except EMP, there is no "real hardcounter like Viking counter Collosus with terrible terrible damage with each hit"..afaik..
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Archons take no extra damage from any unit, and give additional damage to every zerg unit/building I have. I bow down to this beast of a unit. Every attack it does is like an instant fungal growth of damage.
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You can use stimmed marines, terrans just need to start splitting them like vs banelings 
Also banshees.
@down: zerglings actually do pretty well vs archons if they get surround. Same with Zealots
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Easier to think about what isn't the counter. Zerglings, zealots, high templar, vikings, reaper, hellion, phoenix, corrupter.
Everything else works just fine. Nothing is that amazing against it and none of these are bad against it.
oh ya banelings is another non counter
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