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FranzP
Profile Joined November 2010
France270 Posts
April 08 2011 11:05 GMT
#61
The machines are apparently illegal in a lot of country because there's nothing that prove they work and selling something that doesn't work is fraud (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Rife at the bottom).
"Cyberhacking is kind of like masturbation I guess, all countries do it but nobody actually talks about it. China just was accidentally doing it with the door wide open." Newbistic
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 08 2011 11:12 GMT
#62
On April 08 2011 20:05 FranzP wrote:
The machines are apparently illegal in a lot of country because there's nothing that prove they work and selling something that doesn't work is fraud (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Rife at the bottom).

That is why I said I am not sure if people today that claim to use his machines are trying to fraud us or not.

It is hard to know just like with many other alternative medicine as mainstream usually fights against it or does not want to finance research (which you have to have to be legalized).
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 08 2011 11:15 GMT
#63
On April 08 2011 19:55 VIB wrote:
Archangel: resonance. Look it up, study it, understand it. If you understood what it was, you wouldn't have made this thread. It's completely illogical and targeting the complete layman. No one will take it seriously. There is no such thing as resonance killing cancer. Doesn't exist, doesn't makes sense, it's not how it works, not at all.

If you are so sure of this I am sure you can easily give me good links to prove to me you are right.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 11:22:02
April 08 2011 11:16 GMT
#64
On April 08 2011 20:15 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 19:55 VIB wrote:
Archangel: resonance. Look it up, study it, understand it. If you understood what it was, you wouldn't have made this thread. It's completely illogical and targeting the complete layman. No one will take it seriously. There is no such thing as resonance killing cancer. Doesn't exist, doesn't makes sense, it's not how it works, not at all.

If you are so sure of this I am sure you can easily give me good links to prove to me you are right.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resonance O.o

It's very simple concept. Object emits a wave, you emit the exact opposite, both cancel each other. Everything that moves emanates waves. Every object emits a wave because it's particles (molecules, atoms, sub-atomic particles) are all moving. Big problem is, each atom in your body has a different one. And they don't move regularly. They change, so the waves they emit are always changing. To cancel the waves you'd need to know exactly how each of the wave of each sub-atomic particle is. And how they are changing.
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
Dali.
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand689 Posts
April 08 2011 11:18 GMT
#65
On April 08 2011 19:52 GertHeart wrote:
I apologize in advance, but a lot of these "Things" have been going on for years, with sloppy cover ups. 9/11 people remember but on the same day the pentagon was hit by a missile, people forget that. Magic Johnson went to EU got treated, and came back without "Aids" HIV, whatver you wnt to call it. they say it's not 'active" but in long ago previous statements they stated they can't find the virus in his system anymore.

People need to stop calling things conspiracy. Here's the fact, most governments know you're stupid and will cover things up yourself with no needed facts, you can be provided facts but still think information is false. That's how the world works, whistleblowers appear, then disappear forever.

Anyway gl guys this thread like a lot others here seem to get closed when it comes to these topics sadly. I wanted to comment on another similar to this but Mods closed it though it didn't turn violent? BP oil spill I think. gl hf.


HOOOO boy.

- The pentagon was not hit by a missile. There is unequivocal evidence that a plane hit it. Video footage with stills of a plane shaped and sized object. Huge amounts of debris which signified a large passenger plane, ie landing gear.

- Magic Johnson does not have AIDS he has HIV. HIV is the precursor to AIDS. It can be successfully stalled with heavy medication.

- Not everyone is stupid. Stop acting like you're the only sane person cause you see through the lies. Its obnoxious and terribly misinformed.
mustache
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland309 Posts
April 08 2011 11:18 GMT
#66
On April 08 2011 20:12 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 20:05 FranzP wrote:
The machines are apparently illegal in a lot of country because there's nothing that prove they work and selling something that doesn't work is fraud (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Rife at the bottom).

That is why I said I am not sure if people today that claim to use his machines are trying to fraud us or not.

It is hard to know just like with many other alternative medicine as mainstream usually fights against it or does not want to finance research (which you have to have to be legalized).


why would you have to do research if his machines already exist. i though he already did the research..

now you would jsut have to prove it works, by actually healing people with it.
andrewwiggin
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia435 Posts
April 08 2011 11:19 GMT
#67
lol..

why would people who discover a cure for cancer want to hide a cure for cancer?

When a cure = billions upon billions upon billions of dollars worth of potential profit... hmm? If you're a pharmaceutical firm's R&D division and you just discovered the cure for cancer.. would you hide it?

Fuck no.


Seriously. Rational people in this thread have already explained why the 'science' behind resonance doesn't work this way, and there is nothing in the way of peer reviewed evidence to justify claiming this is a working cure.

Please, if any mods are reading this, take this thread down... it's embarrassing..
Gak2
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada418 Posts
April 08 2011 11:20 GMT
#68
Also, did you know some found a way to make cars run on water? Amazing, right.
But oil companies want money, so the governments don't allow it.
Those damn governments, always trying to take away our money. I wonder why we even vote for them.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
April 08 2011 11:24 GMT
#69
If you could actually kill cells with resonance, why haven't we seen any applications for it? I can imagine there would be plenty uses of it.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Rayonnair
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore185 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 11:48:48
April 08 2011 11:27 GMT
#70
You know what they call alternative medicine that's been proved to work?

Medicine.

Edit: credit to Tim Minchin's "Storm".

Edit 2: in case my point is not clear... what I am saying is that if this really works, someone would have set it up and made it work. Newspapers all over the world will be screaming this person's virtues. Politicians will be scrambling over each other to take photographs shaking this person's hand. Rich men everywhere will be flying to this person's hospital to get cured of cancer. NGOs like the MakeAWish foundation will solicit donations to bring 3 year olds with leukemia to this person's hospital. He or she will be heralded as the savior of mankind - imagine a world where all of us are free from disease! And so on.

OP, you say this alleged invention is being kept down because of the greed of the pharmaceutical corporations. I put it to you that it is this very greed that will cause it to rise to prominence despite competitors not wanting it to exist. The fact is that any profits a pharmaco can extract out of current cancer "treatment" will pale in comparison to the immense goodwill that same pharmaco will receive from the people for releasing the cure for cancer. People will trust this pharmaco more than any other, because it will be The One That Cured Cancer. Money simply cannot buy that kind of brand recognition.

The fact that this is not happening is a strong indicator that this cure does not exist.
Starparty
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Sweden1963 Posts
April 08 2011 11:27 GMT
#71
Wow, you people are so full of yourselves, arguing for the sake of arguing. Get of your high horses and run a mannered debate on the subject or just plainly refrain from posting. Comments like "What is wrong with your brain" because someone is having another viewpoint on the matter is honestly saying a hell lot of more about you than the person the comment is directed to.
The artist formerly known as Starparty
mustache
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland309 Posts
April 08 2011 11:30 GMT
#72
@Starparty
there's no reason in allowing someone to have an opinion in a matter that doesnt allow opinons.

if i had the opinion the world was flat would you prais me for having a different view on things?
sjh
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada136 Posts
April 08 2011 11:31 GMT
#73
They also found a real-life (dead) alien in mexico in the 30s... STARCHILD! Check it out http://www.starchildproject.com/

The guy there points out that scientists don't even know what some of the features of the skull are, and a few scientists even say it isn't human!

Conclusion?
PROOF of aliens
Ceterum ceseo Protatem esse delendam
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
April 08 2011 11:32 GMT
#74
Lol, this thread is derailing heavily.
Wohmfg
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1292 Posts
April 08 2011 11:40 GMT
#75
On April 08 2011 20:20 Gak2 wrote:
Also, did you know some found a way to make cars run on water? Amazing, right.
But oil companies want money, so the governments don't allow it.
Those damn governments, always trying to take away our money. I wonder why we even vote for them.


I don't believe in any of these theories and how the government covers the "truth" up, but there are so many governments linked with large corporations. Both the government and the corporations have an interest in helping each other out and that can get in the way of the government doing the best job for the majority of the population. There's a reason that taxes are massively skewed towards helping out big earners, and corporation tax in the UK just went down.

One example:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/nov/12/mcdonalds-pepsico-help-health-policy
BW4Life!
braammbolius
Profile Joined May 2005
179 Posts
April 08 2011 11:40 GMT
#76
On April 08 2011 20:16 VIB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 20:15 -Archangel- wrote:
On April 08 2011 19:55 VIB wrote:
Archangel: resonance. Look it up, study it, understand it. If you understood what it was, you wouldn't have made this thread. It's completely illogical and targeting the complete layman. No one will take it seriously. There is no such thing as resonance killing cancer. Doesn't exist, doesn't makes sense, it's not how it works, not at all.

If you are so sure of this I am sure you can easily give me good links to prove to me you are right.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resonance O.o

It's very simple concept. Object emits a wave, you emit the exact opposite, both cancel each other. Everything that moves emanates waves. Every object emits a wave because it's particles (molecules, atoms, sub-atomic particles) are all moving. Big problem is, each atom in your body has a different one. And they don't move regularly. They change, so the waves they emit are always changing. To cancel the waves you'd need to know exactly how each of the wave of each sub-atomic particle is. And how they are changing.


Lol, "Look it up, study it, understand it".

First you blabber something like this and then you go on proving you yourself have absolutely no clue whatsoever.

God I love the internets
thesideshow
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 11:54:48
April 08 2011 11:42 GMT
#77
On April 08 2011 19:28 FranzP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 19:12 thesideshow wrote:
On April 08 2011 19:10 Jombozeus wrote:
So this is basically saying, if I'm at a classical concert and some guy hits a high C sharp, my body can potentially explode into a billion pieces? Better start soundproofing my room with acoustics.


At very low frequencies your internal organs will start to mash about in your body and cause damage.


It won't be caused by resonnance but by the power of the sound. Like a shockwave from an explosion, if there is too much pressure yeah you could sustain internal injury but it's not because of resonnance.


Actually it can. Vibrations can cause bodily damage, that's why suspension systems in vehicles have to take that into account.

Some references:
+ Show Spoiler +
"In some cases, certain frequencies and levels of vibration can permanently damage
internal body organs."
http://imtuoradea.ro/auo.fmte/files-2007/MECANICA_files/Druga_C_2.pdf

or

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=tBaCHObL-XQC&pg=PA189&lpg=PA189&dq=internal damage vibrations human body&source=bl&ots=G0_NGVu1Dm&sig=2FTwIAzaZx97S2TIo3LReyfxz7g&hl=en&ei=fvaeTaqsDImIhQeAw-SLBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CCcQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=internal damage vibrations human body&f=false


OGS:levelchange
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 08 2011 11:52 GMT
#78
On April 08 2011 20:16 VIB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 20:15 -Archangel- wrote:
On April 08 2011 19:55 VIB wrote:
Archangel: resonance. Look it up, study it, understand it. If you understood what it was, you wouldn't have made this thread. It's completely illogical and targeting the complete layman. No one will take it seriously. There is no such thing as resonance killing cancer. Doesn't exist, doesn't makes sense, it's not how it works, not at all.

If you are so sure of this I am sure you can easily give me good links to prove to me you are right.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resonance O.o

It's very simple concept. Object emits a wave, you emit the exact opposite, both cancel each other. Everything that moves emanates waves. Every object emits a wave because it's particles (molecules, atoms, sub-atomic particles) are all moving. Big problem is, each atom in your body has a different one. And they don't move regularly. They change, so the waves they emit are always changing. To cancel the waves you'd need to know exactly how each of the wave of each sub-atomic particle is. And how they are changing.

Seriously, wikipedia? Site that anyone can edit and write what the hell they want?!

it is a good reference for cultural things and films/comics/games and such but not for things like this.
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
April 08 2011 11:57 GMT
#79
On April 08 2011 20:52 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 20:16 VIB wrote:
On April 08 2011 20:15 -Archangel- wrote:
On April 08 2011 19:55 VIB wrote:
Archangel: resonance. Look it up, study it, understand it. If you understood what it was, you wouldn't have made this thread. It's completely illogical and targeting the complete layman. No one will take it seriously. There is no such thing as resonance killing cancer. Doesn't exist, doesn't makes sense, it's not how it works, not at all.

If you are so sure of this I am sure you can easily give me good links to prove to me you are right.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resonance O.o

It's very simple concept. Object emits a wave, you emit the exact opposite, both cancel each other. Everything that moves emanates waves. Every object emits a wave because it's particles (molecules, atoms, sub-atomic particles) are all moving. Big problem is, each atom in your body has a different one. And they don't move regularly. They change, so the waves they emit are always changing. To cancel the waves you'd need to know exactly how each of the wave of each sub-atomic particle is. And how they are changing.

Seriously, wikipedia? Site that anyone can edit and write what the hell they want?!

it is a good reference for cultural things and films/comics/games and such but not for things like this.


Yeah man why would you trust wikipedia for knowledge on a basic scientific concept. You should go to http://www.rife.org/otherresearch.html and read up on that stuff man, it sounds totally unbiased and legit.
m00nchile
Profile Joined July 2010
Slovenia240 Posts
April 08 2011 11:58 GMT
#80
I haven't read the whole thread so pardon me if I'm repeating what's already been said, but I'd like to chime into this debate since I personally saw this treatment on my mother. She was combatting cancer and looked into alternative ways of treatment as a suplement to regular medicinal methods.

Now, the first thing that struck me as a non bollocks about this was, the scanner showed the same things as the tests she had undergone at her onkologist. Also, her doctor never tried to coerce my mother to abandon her regular treatemnts. When she had undergone the radiation and chemo treatement, I also noticed she had far fewer side effects as the other patients with a similar diagnosys (I drove her to hospital daily), also, when her treatement was over, her tumor was still deemed inoperable, but after 2 months of exclusive resonance therapy, it shrunk enough for the operation to be doable, so now she is cancer free and recovering from the procedure.

In retrospect, the shrinking of her tumor could be attributed to residual effects of the radiation treatment, but the minimal side effects (no nausea, no loss of taste, minimal fatigue) and accuracy of the scanner made me a believer. Not that I'd advise someone to forgoe the regular treatments, but I'd strongly encourage anyone with the misfortune of being is such a situation to suplement the medical work with resonance therapy.
The above post was made by a noob. Take it as such.
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